Double Health Insurance Deductions under Cafe 125 Plan - Can the Full Amount Be a Deduction?
I'm helping my sister-in-law with her taxes and noticed something weird with her W-2. The Cafe 125 line (Section 125 cafeteria plan) shows an amount that's only about half of what was actually taken from her paychecks for health insurance this year. Her company apparently made a mistake and double-charged her for health insurance premiums throughout the entire year. So instead of taking out $250 per month, they've been taking $500 monthly (just as an example). She's tried talking to HR but still hasn't gotten any refund for the overpayment. My question is - shouldn't her W-2 show the FULL amount that was taken out in the Cafe 125 box, not just half? This seems to be affecting her reported wages. Also, these health insurance premiums were taken pre-tax, but they amount to almost 10% of her total reported wages for the year. Would she be able to claim any of this as a deduction somewhere else on her taxes? Especially the overpayment part?
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AstroAce
The W-2 should only show the correct, agreed-upon amount for the Cafe 125 plan (Section 125 plan), not the error amount. Your sister-in-law's employer made an administrative error by taking double payments, but that doesn't make the excess a legitimate Section 125 deduction. Here's what should happen: The employer needs to refund the excess withholding AND correct the W-2 if they've reported incorrect wages. The correct health insurance premium amount reduces her taxable wages appropriately, but the excess withholding was essentially taken in error and should be returned to her. As for deducting the health insurance premiums elsewhere - since they were already taken pre-tax through the Cafe 125 plan, they can't be deducted again. That would be double-dipping. However, the excess amount that was incorrectly withheld isn't technically a Section 125 deduction at all - it's an accounting error that needs correction.
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Yuki Kobayashi
•But what if her employer refuses to correct this? It's already February and they've been giving her the runaround since October. Is there a form she can file with her taxes to get credit for the extra money they took?
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AstroAce
•If her employer is unresponsive, she should document all her attempts to resolve this. For immediate tax purposes, she needs to file based on the W-2 received, as the IRS will match her return to that document. For the excess withholding, she needs to continue pursuing this with her employer as it's their error. If they continue to be unresponsive, she could consider filing a complaint with her state's department of labor since this is essentially an incorrect wage payment issue. Unfortunately, there isn't a tax form to reconcile this specific type of employer error on her return.
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Carmen Vega
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Andre Rousseau
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GalaxyGlider
•How does this actually work? I've been trying to reach someone at the IRS for three weeks about a similar issue with my W-2.
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Zoe Stavros
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Mei Wong
I work in payroll and wanted to give the employer perspective on this issue. Sometimes the Cafe 125 amount on W-2s shows only the health insurance premium portion that's eligible for pre-tax treatment, not the entire withholding. If they truly took double payments in error, the excess amount technically isn't a Section 125 deduction at all - it's an accounting error. The employer absolutely should refund this money, but including it in Box 14 under Cafe 125 would actually be incorrect.
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Ethan Clark
•Thanks for this perspective! So you're saying it's possible they're reporting the Cafe 125 amount correctly on the W-2 (just the legitimate pre-tax portion), but they still owe her a refund for the excess withholding? How would that excess withholding be reflected in her total wages then?
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Mei Wong
•You've got it exactly right. The W-2 should only show the legitimate Section 125 amount that was properly elected and is eligible for pre-tax treatment. The excess withholding is essentially just an error that needs to be refunded to your sister-in-law. Regarding how it affects wages, it's a bit complicated. If the excess was taken after-tax (which is likely since it wasn't a proper Section 125 deduction), then her reported wages on the W-2 would be correct. The employer just owes her the money back. However, if they incorrectly reduced her taxable wages by the excess amount too, then the W-2 is wrong and needs correction because her taxable income would be understated.
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Liam Sullivan
I'm confused about something - if the employer took the money pre-tax but then only reported half of it as Cafe 125, wouldn't that mean her W-2 wages are wrong? Like they reduced her pay by the full amount but only gave her tax benefit for half?
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AstroAce
•You're absolutely right to be confused because this is a messy situation. Here's what might be happening: If they took double the proper amount pre-tax and only reported half as Cafe 125, then her W-2 taxable wages would indeed be incorrect. Essentially, she'd be getting taxed on money she never received. This is why it's critical her employer fixes both issues - they need to refund the excess AND ensure her W-2 correctly reflects her actual taxable income.
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Liam Sullivan
•Okay that makes sense. So I guess the original poster needs to focus on getting both problems fixed separately - the refund of the extra money AND making sure the W-2 shows the right taxable income. Thanks for explaining it so clearly!
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Lucas Turner
This is a frustrating situation that unfortunately happens more often than it should. Based on what you've described, there are really two separate issues here that need to be addressed: 1. **The W-2 reporting**: If your sister-in-law's paystubs show the full double amount was deducted pre-tax, but her W-2 only shows half in the Cafe 125 box, then her taxable wages are likely incorrect. She's essentially being taxed on money she never actually received. 2. **The refund**: The employer owes her a refund for the excess premiums they incorrectly withheld. Since it's already February and they've been unresponsive since October, I'd suggest a multi-pronged approach: - Document everything: Keep copies of all paystubs, communications with HR, and the current W-2 - File her taxes based on the W-2 she received (the IRS matches returns to W-2s) - Continue pursuing the employer for both the refund AND a corrected W-2 if needed - Consider escalating within the company (beyond HR to senior management) - If they remain unresponsive, file a wage complaint with your state's Department of Labor The key thing to remember is that this isn't really a tax deduction issue - it's an employer payroll error that needs correction at the source.
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