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Federal income tax withholding seems suspiciously low...should I be worried?

So my sister just started at this new company about 3 months ago and showed me her paystub yesterday. I'm kinda concerned because her federal withholding seems REALLY low compared to what I'd expect. She's making around $65,000 annually but they're only taking out like $78 per paycheck for federal income tax. She's filing as single with zero dependents and no special deductions that I know of. She's worried she'll end up owing a huge amount when she files next April. I told her something must be wrong with her W-4 or how the payroll is processing it. Can anyone help figure out why her federal income tax withholding would be this low? Is this normal or should she talk to HR about fixing it before it becomes a big problem? Thanks!

This is definitely something she should address soon! When federal income tax withholding seems unusually low, it's typically because of how the W-4 form was filled out. Since the 2020 redesign of the W-4, there's no longer a "number of allowances" box, which confuses many people. The most common reasons for low federal withholding are: 1) She might have accidentally checked the box for "multiple jobs" or "spouse works" 2) She could have entered additional deductions she's not eligible for 3) There might be a simple payroll processing error 4) She might have entered an additional withholding amount instead of total withholding amount Your sister should request a copy of her W-4 from HR to see exactly what she submitted. She can then submit a new W-4 if needed. The IRS also has a Tax Withholding Estimator tool online that can help determine the correct withholding amount based on her specific situation.

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Thanks for the detailed explanation! Is there any kind of penalty if she ends up owing too much at tax time because of underwithholding throughout the year?

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Yes, there can be penalties for significant underwithholding. The IRS generally expects you to pay at least 90% of your tax liability throughout the year through withholding or estimated tax payments. If you owe more than $1,000 when filing and haven't met that 90% threshold, you may face an underpayment penalty. The good news is that if she fixes this now, she can increase her withholding for the remaining pay periods of the year to make up for the underwithholding that's already occurred. The W-4 has a specific line (Step 4c) where she can request additional withholding from each paycheck to catch up.

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One thing no one's mentioned - check if she's hitting the Social Security tax cap. If she's making $65k, probably not relevant, but for higher earners - once you hit around $160k (for 2025), they stop withholding Social Security (6.2%), which can make your withholding suddenly look much lower in later months of the year. This happens to me every September and always freaks me out even though I know it's coming!

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That's not what they're asking though. They specifically said federal income tax withholding is low, not FICA. Social Security cap wouldn't affect federal income tax amounts.

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You're right - I should have been clearer. I wasn't suggesting the Social Security cap was causing the issue in this specific case. I was offering it as another potential reason why withholding might suddenly appear lower for people reviewing their paystubs, especially higher earners. When the Social Security withholding stops, the total tax withholding does decrease significantly, which sometimes makes people worry that their federal income tax withholding has changed. It's just another thing to watch for when analyzing why withholding might look different than expected.

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Has your sister checked if she's accidentally claiming exempt status? I did this once when I was younger and didn't understand the W-4. If you write "Exempt" in the right place on the form, they don't withhold ANY federal income tax. Could explain the super low amount.

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Omg that might be it! Just texted her and she remembers checking some kind of exempt box because she didn't owe taxes LAST year (she was a student with very little income). I bet she doesn't realize that exemption doesn't carry forward when your situation changes.

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That's almost certainly the issue then! Being exempt one year doesn't mean you're exempt the next. She needs to submit a new W-4 ASAP. The good news is that fixing it now means she can have extra withholding taken out for the rest of the year to make up for the missed amounts. Basically when she fills out the new form, she can add an additional amount on line 4(c) to catch up. If she's been underwithheld by about $300 per month for 3 months, and has 9 months left in the year, she might want to have an extra $100/month withheld ($300 ÷ 9 = $33 per month, but better to withhold a bit extra just to be safe).

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Mei Lin

If your sister is eligible for any tax credits like education credits or the earned income credit, that could legitimately lower her withholding requirements. Did she have any education expenses last year? Sometimes the withholding tables account for expected credits.

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Just wanted to chime in with another possibility - sometimes payroll systems get confused when someone starts mid-year at a new job. If your sister's HR department entered her start date incorrectly or if the system is annualizing her salary incorrectly, it might be calculating withholding as if she's only working part of the year. For example, if the system thinks she's only working 6 months instead of 12, it might be withholding based on a much lower annual income projection. This happened to a coworker of mine who started in March - payroll was calculating her withholding as if she'd only make $32k for the year instead of her actual $65k salary. She should definitely check with HR about how her salary and start date are entered in their system, especially since this is a relatively new job (3 months). A simple payroll setup error could explain the mysteriously low federal withholding.

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That's a really insightful point about mid-year start dates! I hadn't thought about how payroll systems might annualize salaries incorrectly. This could definitely explain why the withholding seems so off - if the system thinks she's only earning a fraction of her actual annual income, it would put her in a much lower tax bracket for withholding calculations. Your example of $32k vs $65k is huge - that could easily account for the $78 per paycheck discrepancy the original poster mentioned. It's definitely worth having her sister ask HR specifically about how her annual salary projection is set up in their system, especially since she's only been there 3 months.

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Ev Luca

This is a pretty common issue and you're smart to catch it early! Based on what you've described, $78 per paycheck for someone making $65k annually is definitely suspiciously low. For reference, someone in her situation should typically have around $200-250 per paycheck withheld for federal income tax. A few quick things to check first: - Make sure you're looking at the right line on her paystub (federal income tax, not FICA or state taxes) - Confirm her pay frequency (bi-weekly vs semi-monthly makes a difference in calculations) The most likely culprits are either she accidentally claimed exempt status on her W-4 (which means NO federal tax withholding), or there's an error in how HR entered her information into payroll. Given that she just started 3 months ago, payroll setup errors are pretty common. She should request a copy of her W-4 from HR immediately to see what was actually submitted. If everything looks correct on the W-4, then it's definitely a payroll processing issue that HR needs to fix. Either way, this needs to be addressed ASAP - waiting until next April could mean owing thousands in taxes plus potential penalties.

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This is really helpful context! You're absolutely right that $78 per paycheck seems way too low for a $65k salary. I'm actually dealing with something similar with my own withholding right now, so this whole thread has been super educational. The point about checking pay frequency is important too - I made that mistake once when comparing my withholding to a friend's and couldn't figure out why ours were so different until I realized they were paid bi-weekly and I was paid semi-monthly. Given all the suggestions in this thread, it sounds like the sister should definitely start by getting a copy of that W-4 form. Between the exempt status possibility that @6b519d0a2948 mentioned and the payroll setup errors that @f52366f8c41d brought up, there are some really concrete things to check for. Thanks for breaking down what the withholding should actually look like - that gives a good baseline for comparison!

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Another thing to consider - has your sister changed her direct deposit information or banking details recently? Sometimes payroll systems get confused when there are banking changes and accidentally apply withholding settings from a previous employee or default settings. Also, if she's contributing to a 401(k) or other pre-tax benefits, make sure those aren't being double-counted somewhere in the system. I've seen cases where the payroll software incorrectly calculates withholding by treating pre-tax deductions as if they reduce the tax liability instead of just the taxable income. The $78 per paycheck figure is so specific and low that it almost seems like the system is applying some kind of minimum withholding amount rather than calculating based on her actual salary and filing status. Definitely have her print out a detailed pay stub that shows all the line items - sometimes the issue becomes obvious when you can see exactly how each deduction is being calculated.

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That's a great point about the banking changes potentially causing payroll system confusion! I hadn't considered that angle before. The double-counting of pre-tax contributions is also something worth investigating - if the system is miscalculating her taxable income because of 401(k) contributions or health insurance premiums, that could definitely explain the unusually low withholding. Your suggestion about getting a detailed pay stub breakdown is spot on. Sometimes when you see all the line items laid out, patterns emerge that aren't obvious from just looking at the final withholding amount. It would also help her HR department troubleshoot more effectively if they can see exactly where the calculation is going wrong. The fact that it's such a specific low amount like $78 does make it seem like there's some kind of systematic error rather than just a simple W-4 mistake. Could be a default minimum, could be leftover settings from another employee, or could be the system applying some kind of cap that shouldn't be there. Either way, that detailed breakdown should help pinpoint exactly what's happening.

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I've been following this thread and wanted to add one more potential cause that I haven't seen mentioned yet - bonus or commission withholding settings affecting regular paycheck calculations. If your sister's position involves any variable compensation (even if she hasn't received any yet), some payroll systems will apply "supplemental income" withholding rates to the base salary by mistake. The supplemental rate is typically a flat 22% for federal taxes, but if the system incorrectly applies this as a cap rather than a rate, it could result in dramatically lower withholding amounts. Also, since she's only 3 months in, I'd suggest she ask HR if there were any recent payroll system updates or migrations. Companies sometimes lose employee tax settings during system transitions, reverting everyone to default configurations that may not match their actual W-4 elections. The combination of being a new employee + potential system issues + the very specific $78 amount really suggests this is a technical error rather than a form completion problem. She should definitely escalate this to HR ASAP, and if they can't resolve it quickly, she might want to consider making estimated tax payments for Q2 to avoid underpayment penalties while they sort it out.

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