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What does Code 12W on Paycom W2 mean when it includes pretaxed cafeteria plan premiums?

So I've been going through my W2 from Paycom for this year's tax filing and noticed something weird with the Code 12W box. I maxed out my HSA contributions for 2024 (actually used 2023's limit by accident since I forgot to update it). According to my final pay stub, I contributed $4,150 to my HSA. Here's where I'm confused - when I got my W2, I expected box 12-W to show exactly $4,150, but instead it's showing over $6,500! When I called HR about this discrepancy, they told me "your health insurance premiums are part of a cafeteria plan and are pretaxed, so those got included in Code W along with your HSA contributions." This doesn't sound right to me at all. From everything I've researched online, Code W on a W2 should ONLY show HSA contributions, not cafeteria plan premiums. My company doesn't contribute anything to my HSA - it's all my money. Is Paycom handling this correctly, or is something wrong with my W2? I just checked my W2 from last year and noticed they did the same thing, but the total amount was still under the maximum HSA contribution limit so I didn't notice it was wrong.

You're absolutely right to question this. Box 12 Code W on your W2 should ONLY include HSA contributions (both employee and employer contributions if applicable). Cafeteria plan premiums (like health insurance) should NOT be included in Code W, even though they are pre-tax. Cafeteria plan premiums are already accounted for in your W2 by reducing your wages in Box 1. They don't get reported separately with a code. Your HSA contributions also reduce Box 1 wages but additionally get reported in Box 12 with Code W. Your payroll department is incorrect. This is a common misunderstanding, but it could cause problems if the IRS thinks you over-contributed to your HSA. You should definitely push back and ask for a corrected W2.

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Thank you for confirming what I thought! I was pretty sure I was right, but our payroll person seemed so confident that I started doubting myself. Should I be worried about potential penalties if this isn't fixed? Would the IRS think I contributed too much to my HSA when I actually didn't?

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Yes, this could potentially cause problems. The IRS matches what's reported on your W2 Box 12 Code W with HSA contribution limits. If they see $5,200 for a single coverage plan when the limit was $3,850, they might flag your return for an excess contribution. You'd want to get this corrected before filing your taxes to avoid complications. If your employer won't fix it, you'll need to file Form 8889 with your tax return and attach an explanation that the W2 amount is incorrect and includes non-HSA cafeteria plan premiums. Keep documentation from your payroll records showing your actual HSA contributions.

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You're absolutely right to question this. Code 12W on your W2 should ONLY include HSA contributions, not your cafeteria plan premiums. These are completely separate pretax benefits and should be reported differently on your W2. Your cafeteria plan premiums (health insurance, etc.) should reduce your Box 1 wages but shouldn't appear specifically in Box 12 with Code W. The only amounts that should appear in Box 12 with Code W are: 1) your HSA contributions made through payroll deductions, and 2) any employer contributions to your HSA (which you mentioned aren't happening in your case). I'd suggest going back to your payroll department with this information. They need to issue a corrected W2 (W-2c) since this error could potentially cause problems if the IRS thinks you've over-contributed to your HSA. The fact they did this last year too suggests there's a systematic error in how they're configuring their payroll system.

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But what if OP's employer is structuring their HSA as part of their Section 125 cafeteria plan? Couldn't that explain why they're being grouped together? I thought HSAs could be offered as part of a cafeteria plan.

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Even if the HSA is offered as part of a Section 125 cafeteria plan (which is common and perfectly fine), the reporting on the W2 should still separate these different benefits. Health insurance premiums and HSA contributions are distinct benefits with different tax treatments and reporting requirements. HSA contributions specifically need to be reported in Box 12 with Code W so the IRS can verify compliance with contribution limits. Including other cafeteria plan benefits in that same code would make it impossible for the IRS to verify proper HSA contribution limits were followed. That's why the IRS instructions for W-2 preparation are clear that Code W is specifically for HSA contributions only.

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Just want to add some clarity around HSAs and cafeteria plans. HSA contributions CAN be part of a Section 125 cafeteria plan, but that doesn't change how they should be reported on your W2: - Box 1, 3, and 5 will show your wages AFTER all pretax deductions (including both HSA and health premiums) - Box 12 Code W should ONLY show HSA contributions - Health insurance premiums don't get their own specific code on the W2 Your payroll department might be confused because both items are pretax, but they need to be tracked separately because HSAs have specific contribution limits that the IRS monitors through the W2 reporting.

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This is super helpful, thank you! So to make sure I understand correctly - both my health insurance premiums AND my HSA contributions should be reducing my taxable wages in Box 1, but only the HSA contributions should be specifically called out in Box 12 with code W?

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Exactly! Both your health insurance premiums and HSA contributions reduce your taxable wages reflected in Box 1 (and usually Boxes 3 and 5 for Social Security and Medicare wages too, though there are some exceptions). But only the HSA contributions should be specifically reported in Box 12 with code W. This is because the IRS needs to track HSA contributions to ensure you don't exceed the annual limits. There's no specific tracking needed for health insurance premiums on the W2, so they don't get their own code - they just reduce your reported wages.

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Has anyone here successfully gotten Paycom to issue a corrected W2 for this specific issue? Our company also uses Paycom and I'm seeing the same problem - my Code W amount is way higher than my actual HSA contributions. I'm worried about delaying filing my taxes while waiting for a correction.

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I got mine fixed last month! The key was showing our payroll person the actual IRS instructions for Form W-2. I printed out the page that specifically shows Code W is only for HSA contributions. Once I had documentation, they processed the W-2c within a week. You can find those instructions on irs.gov.

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Just an FYI for anyone dealing with this - I'm a payroll specialist (not for Paycom) and this is unfortunately a common mistake. The confusion usually happens because both HSA contributions AND cafeteria plan premiums are pre-tax, but they're handled differently on the W2. For clarification: - Box 12 Code W: Only HSA contributions - Cafeteria plan premiums: No specific box, they simply reduce wages in Box 1 - FSA contributions: Box 14 (optional) or just reduce Box 1 - 401k contributions: Box 12 Code D If your payroll person insists they're right, ask them to check IRS Publication 969 and the W2 instructions specifically for Box 12 Code W.

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This is super helpful! Would it make a difference if some of the additional amount in Code W might be employer contributions to the HSA? My employer doesn't contribute to mine, but I'm wondering if that could explain why some companies might have a higher number there.

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Yes, that's a good question! If your employer makes contributions to your HSA, those amounts ARE included in Box 12 Code W along with your own contributions. So the total in Code W would be the combination of your contributions plus your employer's contributions. But in your case, since you said your employer doesn't contribute to your HSA, that's not the explanation. This is definitely an error where they're incorrectly including cafeteria plan premiums in Code W.

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Sorry if this is a dumb question but how urgently does this need to be fixed? I just checked my W2 and I think they made the same mistake. I've already filed my taxes though... am I going to get in trouble with the IRS?

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Don't worry, it's not a dumb question at all. If you've already filed, you should still try to get a corrected W2 from your employer. Once you receive it, you'd need to file an amended return (Form 1040-X). If the incorrect W2 makes it look like you over-contributed to your HSA, the IRS might send you a notice. In that case, you'd need to respond with an explanation and documentation showing your actual HSA contributions. It's better to be proactive, but you won't get in serious trouble - worst case would be having to pay a 6% excise tax on any "excess contributions" until the issue is resolved.

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