W2 Box 1 not reduced by Traditional 403(b) contributions - possible payroll error?
My wife works part-time and puts 100% of her earnings into a Traditional 403(b). I'm doing our taxes for 2024 and something seems off with her W2. From everything I've read, her Box 1 (wages) should be reduced by her 403(b) contributions and show $0 or close to it. Instead, Box 1 is showing her entire gross income. Box 12 E correctly shows the amount she contributed to the Traditional 403(b). What's weird is that Box 1, 3, and 5 all show identical amounts (her full gross income). When I take Box 1 minus all deductions (Box 2, 4, 6, and 17), that amount equals exactly what's in Box 12 E. She has literally zero other deductions - no insurance or other benefits. Just the 403(b) contribution. Should I contact her HR department about this or am I misunderstanding something? Looking back at her 2023 W2, I think they might have made the same mistake then too, but that W2 had more complexities. To be clear - I'm mainly concerned about the payroll taxes. They did withhold a small amount of income tax because of an outdated W4. I fixed that for 2025 and they've stopped withholding income taxes completely. This is definitely a Traditional 403(b), not a Roth. Any insights would be helpful before I start making calls!
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Brooklyn Foley
Your intuition is correct. For a Traditional 403(b) contribution, Box 1 on the W2 should be reduced by the amount of those contributions. This is one of the main tax benefits of Traditional retirement accounts - they reduce your taxable income for federal income tax purposes. However, there's an important distinction: while Traditional 403(b) contributions reduce the amount in Box 1 (wages subject to federal income tax), they do NOT reduce the amounts in Box a3 and Box 5, which are used for Social Security and Medicare taxes. Those are calculated on your gross income regardless of 403(b) contributions. If Box 1 equals your wife's gross income without being reduced by the 403(b) contribution, that's almost certainly an error by the payroll department. Since Box 12 E correctly shows the 403(b) contribution amount, they clearly know about it, but haven't properly adjusted Box 1. I would definitely contact HR or the payroll department. This could result in you paying more federal income tax than you should.
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Jay Lincoln
•So if this is true and box 1 should be lower, does that mean they'd need to file an amended return for previous years too? How far back can they go to fix this if the same error happened in previous years?
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Brooklyn Foley
•Yes, if the same error occurred in previous tax years, you can file amended returns to get back the overpaid taxes. The general rule is that you can amend returns for the past three years from the original filing deadline. So right now in early 2025, you could potentially amend returns for tax years 2022, 2023, and 2024. For each year, you'd file Form 1040-X along with any applicable schedules that change as a result of the correction. The potential refund could be significant depending on your tax bracket and the size of the contributions.
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Jessica Suarez
I had almost exactly this same issue with my hospital job last year. My HR department was coding my 403(b) contributions wrong in the payroll system. I found out because I was comparing paystubs with a coworker and noticed the discrepancy. I checked out this tool called taxr.ai (https://taxr.ai) that helped me figure out the exact issue - you upload your W2 and it analyzes all the boxes and flags potential errors. It immediately highlighted that my Box 1 wages weren't being reduced by my pre-tax contributions. When I brought this to HR with the specific payroll code issue identified, they fixed it right away and had to issue a corrected W2. They explained it was a system-wide error affecting several employees.
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Marcus Williams
•Did they have to pay you back for the extra taxes you paid in previous years? My husband's W2 might have the same issue but from a school district job.
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Lily Young
•How accurate is that tool? I'm always skeptical of uploading my tax docs online. Does it actually find real errors or just generic stuff you could figure out yourself?
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Jessica Suarez
•They didn't automatically pay me back, but I filed amended returns for the previous two years and got pretty substantial refunds. It was definitely worth the effort since I was in the 22% tax bracket at the time. The tool is surprisingly accurate - it's not just generic advice. It found specific issues with how my retirement contributions were being handled and explained exactly what was wrong with reference to the tax code. I was hesitant about uploading documents too, but they use the same encryption as most tax software. The analysis it provided was way more detailed than what I could have figured out on my own.
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Lily Young
I tried taxr.ai after seeing it mentioned here and it was actually super helpful! I uploaded my W2 from my teaching job and it immediately flagged the exact issue being discussed - my 403(b) contributions weren't reducing my Box 1 wages. The detailed report showed that while Box 12 had the correct contribution amount with code E, Box 1 wasn't reduced accordingly. It even generated a letter I could send to HR explaining the specific payroll coding issue. My school district's payroll person admitted this was happening to several employees. They issued a corrected W2 within two weeks, and I'll be getting about $1,400 back when I file my amended return. They also fixed it going forward so my 2025 W2 will be correct!
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Kennedy Morrison
This is a super common error with 403(b) plans at schools and hospitals especially. I went through 8 months of back and forth with my HR department trying to get this fixed last year. Nobody would call me back and their online portal was useless. I finally used Claimyr (https://claimyr.com) to get through to an actual IRS agent about this. They have this service where they wait on hold with the IRS for you and then call you when an agent is on the line. You can see how it works here: https://youtu.be/_kiP6q8DX5c The IRS agent explained exactly what documentation I needed from my employer to prove the error and how to file for corrections. Once I had that official guidance, HR suddenly took me seriously and fixed the issues. The IRS also flagged my account so my amended returns were processed faster.
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Wesley Hallow
•Wait, how does this actually work? They just sit on hold instead of you? I've been trying to reach the IRS for weeks about a similar issue.
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Justin Chang
•Yeah right, like the IRS actually helps with anything. I've been on hold for literally 3+ hours multiple times and either get disconnected or talk to someone who has no idea what they're talking about. I'll believe this works when I see it.
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Kennedy Morrison
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Justin Chang
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Grace Thomas
Just a quick note - there's an exception for certain 403(b) plans called "non-ERISA" plans where contributions might not reduce Box 1. These are pretty rare but do exist in some religious organizations. Might be worth checking if your wife's plan falls under this exception.
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Elijah Knight
•Thanks for mentioning this! I looked into it, and my wife works for a public community college, so it's definitely a standard ERISA-governed 403(b) plan. I checked her plan documents just to be sure, and they explicitly state that contributions are pre-tax and should reduce federal taxable income.
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Grace Thomas
•Gotcha! In that case, it's definitely a payroll error. Community college plans are almost always standard ERISA plans where traditional contributions should absolutely reduce Box 1. Glad you checked the plan documents - that will be helpful evidence when you contact HR. With the plan documents and IRS guidelines, they should issue a corrected W2 without too much resistance.
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Hunter Brighton
How much money are we talking about here? My wife had a similar issue with her university job and we ended up getting back around $2,800 across two tax years after they fixed her W2s and we filed amended returns.
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Dylan Baskin
•It really depends on their tax bracket and how much was contributed to the 403b. If she's putting 100% of her income as stated, it could be significant. For example, if she earned $15k and contributed all of it while in the 22% bracket, that's $3,300 in overpaid taxes.
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