Does my husband need additional forms beyond 'Closer Connection Exception' Form 8840 when filing?
So my husband is in a bit of a complicated situation with his tax filing and I'm trying to figure out what exactly he needs to submit. He qualifies for the 'Closer Connection Exception' and will be completing Form 8840, but I'm not sure if that's the only form he needs to submit or if there are other required forms that go along with it. He's been living in Canada for work about 8 months of the year but still maintains significant ties to the US (our house is here, kids go to school here, we have all our bank accounts here, etc.). From what I understand, the Closer Connection Exception helps avoid being considered a US resident for tax purposes, but I'm confused about the complete filing requirements. Is Form 8840 a standalone submission? Or does he need to attach it to something else? We're trying to make sure we comply with all IRS requirements but don't want to do unnecessary paperwork either. Thanks in advance for clarifying this for us!
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Oliver Wagner
The Form 8840 (Closer Connection Exception Statement) is generally not a standalone form. Your husband will likely need to attach it to a nonresident tax return. If your husband qualifies for the Closer Connection Exception, he's essentially establishing that he has stronger ties to Canada than to the US, despite physically being present in the US enough days to potentially be considered a US resident. Here's what he typically needs to file: 1. Form 1040-NR (U.S. Nonresident Alien Income Tax Return) - This is the main tax return for nonresidents 2. Form 8840 - Attached to the 1040-NR as supporting documentation He needs to file these if he had any US source income that requires reporting. If he had no US source income, some tax professionals suggest still filing the 8840 alone to establish the closer connection record, though technically the IRS instructions indicate it should accompany a return.
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Natasha Kuznetsova
•Thanks for this info! What counts as "US source income"? My husband gets paid by his Canadian employer while working in the US occasionally. Would that be considered US source income? Or only if he had a US employer?
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Oliver Wagner
•US source income generally includes any money earned while physically working in the US, regardless of who the employer is. So if your husband performed work while physically in the US (even for a Canadian employer), that portion of his income is technically US-source income. Other common US source income includes rental income from US properties, dividends from US companies, interest from US banks, and any US business income. Even if the payments come from a Canadian company, the determinant is where the work was physically performed.
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Javier Mendoza
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Emma Thompson
•Does this really work for international tax situations? I've used other tax software before but they always seem confused by anything crossing borders. Did it help determine if your spouse was under the substantial presence test too?
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Malik Davis
•I'm skeptical about these online tools for complex tax situations. Did it actually help with determining if you needed Schedule OI or any other specific international reporting forms? Those are the ones that always trip me up.
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Javier Mendoza
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Emma Thompson
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Isabella Santos
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StarStrider
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Ravi Gupta
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Isabella Santos
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Ravi Gupta
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Freya Pedersen
Just to add some clarification based on my experience as someone who's filed Form 8840 for several years - the form requirements can change slightly based on your specific situation: 1. If your husband had ANY US source income (including income earned while physically working in the US, US investments, rental property, etc.), then Form 8840 must be attached to Form 1040-NR. 2. If he had zero US source income, technically Form 8840 can be filed by itself directly to the address in the instructions. Keep in mind that if he qualifies for closer connection to Canada, he'll also need to provide quite a bit of documentation about permanent home, family location, banking relationships, etc. on the 8840 form itself.
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Omar Hassan
•Thanks for this info! What's the deadline for filing the 8840 when it's submitted by itself (with no US income)? Is it still April 15th or is there a different deadline?
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Freya Pedersen
•The deadline for filing Form 8840 by itself (with no US source income) is June 15th of the year following the calendar year for which you're filing. This is later than the regular April tax deadline. If you're filing Form 8840 attached to Form 1040-NR, then you follow the 1040-NR deadlines, which is generally April 15th for wage income, or June 15th if there was no wage income. Extensions are available in both scenarios if needed.
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Chloe Anderson
Has anybody had experience with the audit risk when filing Form 8840? My accountant is telling me it's a "red flag" but I think he's just trying to scare me into paying for more services. My husband is in almost the identical situation (working in Mexico, comes back to US for about 4 months total throughout the year).
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Diego Vargas
•I've been filing 8840 for 6 years now (work in Germany, family in US) and have never been audited. From what I understand, it's actually LESS of a red flag because you're properly documenting your status rather than leaving it ambiguous. The form is specifically designed for people in your situation.
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Leila Haddad
I went through this exact situation with my wife last year! She was working in the UK for about 9 months but we maintained our primary residence and all financial ties in the US. From our experience, Form 8840 is definitely NOT standalone if your husband had any US source income. Since he was physically working in the US for part of the year (even if paid by a Canadian employer), that's considered US source income and requires filing Form 1040-NR with the 8840 attached. One thing that caught us off guard was the level of documentation required for the 8840 itself. They want extensive proof of your closer connection to the US - bank statements, utility bills, voter registration, driver's license, kids' school records, etc. Start gathering all of that now because it's quite comprehensive. Also, make sure to calculate the substantial presence test carefully. The days count differently for the three-year period, and there are specific rules about commuting from Canada that might apply to your situation. We initially miscounted and almost filed incorrectly. The good news is that once you establish the pattern correctly, it becomes much easier in subsequent years. Just be thorough with the documentation the first time around!
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