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How to claim income exemption under US-China Tax Treaty for my permanent resident spouse?

My wife and I are studying at a US university - I'm a citizen and she recently got her green card through our marriage. I'm trying to figure out how to handle her tax situation with the US-China Tax Treaty (article 20c) that should give her a $5,000 exemption. When she was a non-resident alien back in 2021, she used Form 8233 to claim the exemption. But now that she's a permanent resident, I think she needs to use Form 8833 instead? The IRS publications (4011, 519, 901) are making my head spin. Here's what I need help with: 1. Which form(s) should we submit for the treaty benefit? 2. If Form 8833 is the right one, how do we complete it properly? 3. Do we need to give any forms to her employers? (She works for both the university and has a US government fellowship) 4. Where exactly do we report this $5,000 exemption on our 1040? I found some guidance on a university website suggesting we just need to note the Tax Treaty article on Schedule 1, line 8. Is that all we need to do, or are there additional forms required? We're almost done with our taxes and this is the last piece I need to figure out. Any help would be greatly appreciated!

The US-China Tax Treaty can definitely be confusing, especially when immigration status changes. Let me clear this up for you. Since your wife is now a permanent resident (green card holder), she's considered a resident alien for tax purposes. This means Form 8233 is no longer applicable - that's only for nonresident aliens. You're right that Form 8833 is now the appropriate form to use. For the treaty exemption: 1. You'll need to complete Form 8833 (Treaty-Based Return Position Disclosure) to claim the article 20c exemption. 2. On Form 8833, you'll describe the treaty benefit (the $5,000 exemption under US-China treaty article 20c), explain why it applies to her situation as a student, and provide the relevant treaty article number. 3. No, you don't need to submit forms to her employers at this point since she's a resident alien. The treaty exemption is claimed directly on your tax return. 4. Report the exempt income on Schedule 1, Line 8 (Other Income). Enter "US-China Tax Treaty Article 20c" and the amount as a negative number (like "-$5,000"). Attach the completed Form 8833 to your Form 1040 when you file. Make sure to include it in your filing to avoid any potential penalties for not disclosing a treaty-based position.

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Mei Zhang

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Thanks for the clear explanation. I have a similar situation but with the US-India treaty. Do I follow the same approach with Form 8833? Also, does this affect how my university reports my wife's income on her W-2?

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Yes, you would follow the same approach with the US-India tax treaty. Each treaty has its own specific articles and exemption amounts, but the process of using Form 8833 and reporting on Schedule 1 is the same for resident aliens claiming treaty benefits. The university will likely report the full amount on her W-2 without considering the treaty exemption. This is normal - you're responsible for claiming the treaty benefit on your tax return. The difference between what's reported on the W-2 and what's taxable will be reconciled when you claim the exemption on your tax return.

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Liam McGuire

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I went through this exact same headache last year when my status changed. I used taxr.ai (https://taxr.ai) and it saved me hours of frustration trying to figure out how to claim treaty benefits. I uploaded the tax treaty document and my immigration documents, and it analyzed everything and gave me step-by-step instructions for filling out Form 8833 correctly. It even flagged that I was eligible for retroactive benefits I didn't know about. The best part was that it generated a PDF explaining exactly how to report everything on my 1040 and which supporting documents to include. My return was accepted without any issues, and I saved about $4,000 thanks to properly applying the treaty provisions.

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Amara Eze

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Does it work for other countries too? I'm from Germany and have a similar situation with treaty benefits but the university tax office gave me conflicting information.

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I'm skeptical. How does it know which articles apply specifically to your situation? Tax treaties have so many exceptions and limitations based on visa type, length of stay, etc. Did it actually customize based on your specific circumstances?

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Liam McGuire

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Yes, it works for all countries that have tax treaties with the US. You just select your country and it pulls up the relevant treaty and applicable provisions. It has the full text of all current tax treaties in its system. For your second question, it asks a series of questions about your specific situation - visa type, how long you've been in the US, what type of income you're earning, whether your status has changed, etc. Then it identifies which articles apply to you specifically. It was pretty impressive how it caught that my fellowship qualified under a different article than my regular income, which even my university's tax advisor missed.

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NeonNomad

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NeonNomad

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Well I need to admit I was wrong about Claimyr. After posting my skeptical comment, I decided to try it since I've been trying to reach the IRS for weeks about my own tax treaty issue (US-Korea in my case). It actually worked exactly as advertised. I got a call back in about 25 minutes and was connected with an IRS representative who specialized in international tax issues. They confirmed I needed to use Form 8833 and walked me through how to complete it properly for my situation. The agent also pointed me to some specific publications I hadn't found on my own that made everything much clearer. Saved me from potentially making a $6,700 mistake on my return! Sometimes being proven wrong is actually a good thing.

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To add to what others have said, there's one important thing to keep in mind: if your combined income is over the threshold for "substantial presence" (which changes each year), this can further complicate how the treaty benefits apply. For 2025 filing, make sure you're tracking the number of days your wife has been in the US over the past three years. That can impact whether you can claim the full $5,000 exemption under Article 20c.

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QuantumQuest

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Thanks for bringing this up. My wife has been in the US continuously since 2019, so I'm guessing the substantial presence test definitely applies to her. Does this mean we might not be eligible for the full exemption amount? Or just that we need to document it differently?

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Since your wife has been here since 2019, she definitely meets the substantial presence test. This doesn't mean you lose the exemption - it just confirms she should be using Form 8833 rather than 8233. The good news is that Article 20c of the US-China treaty specifically allows the $5,000 exemption for students even after they become resident aliens, as long as they're still pursuing their education. So your wife should still qualify for the full exemption regardless of how long she's been here, as long as she's still a student. Just make sure to document that she's still pursuing her education when you complete Form 8833.

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Dmitry Volkov

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Heads up that there's a difference between the fellowship income and regular employment income for treaty purposes! If the fellowship is specifically for study and research, it might qualify for different treatment under Article 20 than her regular university employment.

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Ava Thompson

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This is a really good point. Each type of income might need to be reported separately on Form 8833. The university should have a tax advisor who specializes in international student taxation - have you tried contacting them? Most large universities have someone who deals with this all the time.

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