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Aiden Rodríguez

Does a two-person LLC need to set up payroll for owners?

My partner and I are launching a small business together as 50/50 owners. We're in the process of setting up an LLC, but I'm completely confused about how we pay ourselves. Do we need to establish a formal payroll system to pay ourselves if we're operating as an LLC? Or is there another way we can take money out of the business? Sorry if this is a basic question - I'm just starting to learn about all this business structure and tax stuff. Any help would be really appreciated!

You don't necessarily need to run payroll for a two-person LLC, but it depends on how you elect to be taxed. By default, a multi-member LLC is taxed as a partnership. In this case, you don't take a "salary" through payroll. Instead, you take "draws" from the business. You'll each receive a Schedule K-1 showing your share of the profits (or losses), and you'll pay self-employment taxes on that income regardless of how much you actually withdraw from the business. If you elect to be taxed as an S-Corporation, that's different. Then you would need to run payroll and pay yourselves a "reasonable salary" and withhold taxes. Any additional money you take beyond that salary could be classified as distributions, which aren't subject to self-employment taxes.

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Thanks for explaining! So if we stick with the default partnership taxation, we just take draws when needed and then pay taxes on our share of profits at tax time? Also, does this mean we need to make quarterly estimated tax payments since taxes won't be withheld?

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Exactly! With partnership taxation, you can simply take money out as needed through owner's draws. Just remember you'll each pay taxes on your share of the profits regardless of how much you actually withdraw. Yes, you'll likely need to make quarterly estimated tax payments since you won't have taxes withheld. You'll need to estimate both your income tax and self-employment tax (which covers Social Security and Medicare). The current self-employment tax rate is 15.3% on the first $168,600 of net earnings for 2025.

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That sounds helpful! Did it give you specific advice about your state too? I heard LLC rules can vary by state.

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One more thing to consider about your LLC: if you're operating in a state with an annual LLC fee or franchise tax, make sure you're setting aside money for that too. California for example has a minimum $800 annual tax for LLCs regardless of whether you make a profit. Also, you might want to consider using an accounting system from the beginning to track everything properly. We use QuickBooks Online for our LLC and it makes it way easier to track draws vs business expenses.

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Thanks for mentioning this! We're in Texas, so I think we're OK on the franchise tax for now since we'll be under the threshold, but I'll double check. Do you think QuickBooks is worth it for a very small operation? We're just starting out and trying to keep costs down.

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For Texas you're in good shape, but definitely verify the current thresholds to be safe. On QuickBooks, I actually think it's worth it even for small operations because it saves so much headache at tax time. There's a basic version that's not too expensive (around $25/month), and having clean books from day one saved us thousands in accounting fees and headaches later. If you're really tight on budget, Wave is a free alternative that works OK for very simple setups.

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Don't forget about business licenses and permits! When my friend and I started our LLC, we were so focused on the tax stuff that we forgot to get proper local business licenses. Ended up with a fine!

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What kind of licenses did you need? I thought the LLC formation was all you needed.

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It depends on your business type and location! The LLC formation just creates your legal entity, but you might still need a general business license from your city/county, and potentially industry-specific permits. For example, if you're doing food service, contracting, professional services, etc. - each has different requirements. Check with your local city hall or county clerk's office about what's required in your area. Some cities have online portals where you can search by business type.

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