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I went through this exact situation with my father's estate in 2022, and I want to reassure you that using the county tax assessment is absolutely a valid approach. Your numbers actually look really solid - a $235K assessment in 2021 and $243K sale in 2024 shows only about 1% annual appreciation, which is quite conservative and defensible. What I found most helpful was creating a simple one-page summary that included: the official county assessment document, a brief explanation of why I believed it reflected fair market value (in my case, recent comparable sales supported the assessment), and documentation of my county's assessment practices. One thing that gave me extra confidence was reaching out to a local real estate agent who provided me with a simple market analysis showing what similar homes sold for around my father's date of death. Even though it wasn't a formal appraisal, having that third-party perspective strengthened my documentation. The IRS really is reasonable about this - they understand that not every family gets a formal appraisal immediately after a death. As long as you can show you made a good faith effort to determine accurate value and your numbers pass the "smell test" (which yours definitely do), you should be fine.
This is really encouraging to hear from someone who's been through the exact same process! I love the idea of getting a simple market analysis from a local real estate agent - that seems like a smart way to add credibility without the expense of a formal appraisal. Did the agent charge you for that kind of analysis, or were they willing to provide it as a courtesy? I'm also curious how detailed you made that one-page summary - it sounds like a great template to follow for organizing all the documentation in a clear, concise way that would make sense to the IRS if they ever reviewed it.
I just wanted to jump in here as someone who recently went through this exact process with my uncle's property. Reading through all these responses has given me so much confidence that we made the right choice using the county assessment! One thing I discovered that might be helpful for your situation - many counties publish annual "sales ratio studies" that show how their assessments compare to actual market sales. I found ours buried on the assessor's website under something like "assessment accuracy reports." For our county, it showed that assessments were typically within 5-10% of actual sale prices, which really strengthened my documentation. Your situation sounds very similar to mine - we used a $198K county assessment from 2022 and sold for $205K in early 2024. The modest appreciation actually worked in our favor because it showed the assessment was realistic, not artificially low. I ended up creating a simple binder with the county assessment, printouts of comparable sales from Zillow/Realtor.com from around the date of death, that sales ratio study I mentioned, and a one-page summary explaining my reasoning. My tax preparer said it was some of the best inheritance documentation she'd seen - thorough but not overcomplicated. The peace of mind was worth the few hours of research. Your $235K to $243K progression over three years is going to look completely reasonable to anyone who reviews it!
This is incredibly helpful! I had no idea counties publish sales ratio studies - that sounds like exactly the kind of official documentation that would really strengthen a case with the IRS. I'm definitely going to dig around our county assessor's website tomorrow to see if they have something similar available. Your approach of creating a comprehensive binder with all the supporting documentation sounds perfect. It's reassuring to hear from your tax preparer that this level of organization is actually above and beyond what most people provide. I think I was getting overwhelmed thinking I needed to do something much more complicated, but your example shows that being thorough with readily available information is really the key. The fact that your numbers were so similar to what we're dealing with (modest, realistic appreciation that supports the original assessment) gives me a lot of confidence that we're on the right track. Thanks for sharing such practical, actionable advice!
Has anyone used TurboTax to try to claim this? I feel like it used to let me enter unreimbursed job expenses but now I can't find where to do it.
TurboTax removed that section for federal returns because those deductions were suspended by the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act. But if you click on your state return in TurboTax, some states still allow these deductions. I'm in New York and was able to deduct my unreimbursed expenses on my state return last year, including part of my phone bill.
Just wanted to add some clarity here since there's been a lot of discussion about different options. The bottom line is that for most W-2 employees, you cannot deduct personal cell phone expenses on your federal tax return for 2024 - this has been suspended since 2018 and continues through 2025. However, there are a few legitimate options worth exploring: 1. **State returns**: Some states still allow these deductions even though federal doesn't. Check your specific state's rules. 2. **Employer reimbursement**: This is really your best bet. Document your work usage percentage and approach HR with a business case. Many companies will reimburse at least partially once they understand the cost. 3. **Mixed employment status**: If you have any self-employment income (1099 work, side business, etc.), you may be able to allocate a portion of phone expenses to Schedule C. For documentation, you don't need to log every single call and text. The IRS generally accepts reasonable estimates if you can show how you calculated your work vs. personal usage percentage. Keep records of your method and any supporting documentation. The key is being realistic about your work usage percentage and having a logical way to support that number if questioned.
This is really helpful - thank you for the comprehensive breakdown! I'm in a similar boat to the original poster and didn't realize some states still allow these deductions. I'm in California so I'll definitely check into that for my state return. One quick question about the documentation - when you say "reasonable estimates," do you have any suggestions for how to track work vs personal usage without it being a huge hassle? I feel like I could estimate I use my phone about 65% for work but I'm not sure how to back that up if the IRS ever asks.
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Has anyone used TurboTax for reporting 1099-K for their casual sales? I'm in a similar situation and wondering if it walks you through estimating costs properly or if I need something more specialized.
TurboTax works ok for this but isn't great. It asks for cost of goods sold as a total number rather than helping you itemize. I found FreeTaxUSA actually handled my small eBay business better and asked more relevant questions about inventory and costs. Plus it's way cheaper.
I used TurboTax last year for my Etsy 1099-K. It was decent but I had to manually create my own spreadsheet for tracking cost of goods sold. It doesn't really help with estimating costs when you don't have receipts - you just enter your total estimate. If you're worried about documentation, you might want something more specialized or at least create your own tracking system alongside TurboTax.
I went through this exact situation two years ago with my vintage book selling. Here's what I learned from my CPA: The IRS actually has guidance for situations where exact records don't exist. You can use what's called "reasonable reconstruction" of costs. What I did was create categories based on where I typically shop and what I usually pay. For example: "Garage sale paperbacks: $0.25-$1.00 each" or "Estate sale hardcovers: $2-$5 each." Then I applied these ranges to my sales based on what I could remember about each item's source and condition. The key is being conservative and consistent. Don't inflate your costs, but don't shortchange yourself either. Document your methodology - write down how you arrived at your estimates. If you sold 50 books for $20 each that you estimate cost you $3 each on average, show that math. Also start keeping better records NOW. Take photos of items with any visible price tags when you buy them. Keep a simple log in your phone. The IRS is much more forgiving when they see you're making a good faith effort to track things properly going forward. For your $11,475 in sales, estimating $8,000-$9,000 in costs sounds reasonable based on your description. Just make sure you can explain how you arrived at that number if asked.
Megan D'Acosta
This is a really helpful discussion! As someone new to the complexities of S-Corp retirement planning, I'm learning a lot from everyone's experiences. One question that comes to mind - has anyone dealt with the timing aspects of profit sharing contributions? I understand the S-Corp can contribute up to 25% of W-2 wages, but are there specific deadlines for making these contributions? Can they be made after year-end but before the tax filing deadline (with extensions), similar to SEP-IRA contributions? Also, given all the warnings about controlled group rules, it seems like getting a professional determination letter or opinion from a qualified plan attorney might be worth the investment upfront rather than risking an audit issue later. Has anyone gone that route for peace of mind? The medical practice structure described here sounds quite common, so I imagine there are established best practices that practitioners have developed over time.
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Collins Angel
โขGreat questions about timing! Yes, profit sharing contributions can generally be made up until the extended due date of the S-Corp's tax return (typically September 15th if you file for an extension). This gives you flexibility to see how the year plays out financially before committing to the contribution amount. However, the contribution must be formally committed to by the original due date of the return (March 15th for S-Corps) even if you file an extension. So you'd need to make the decision and document it in corporate resolutions by March, but the actual funding can wait until September. Regarding the professional determination - absolutely worth it! Given the complexity of medical group structures and the potential penalties involved with controlled group violations, spending $2-5K upfront on a qualified plan attorney's analysis could save tens of thousands in penalties and corrections later. Many ERISA attorneys specialize in medical practice retirement plans and have seen these exact structures before. The key is getting this analysis done before implementing anything, not after an audit notice arrives. It's much cheaper to structure things correctly from the start than to fix violations retroactively.
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Emma Davis
As someone who recently navigated a similar situation with my own medical practice S-Corp, I wanted to share a few practical considerations that might help. First, regarding implementation timing - don't feel pressured to rush this for 2025. While your CPA mentioned potential tax savings, it's better to get the structure right than to hastily implement something that could create compliance issues later. The profit sharing option will still be available next year once you've properly evaluated all the moving parts. Second, I'd strongly recommend getting clarity on the exact W-2 amount from your wife's S-Corp before calculating contribution limits. The 25% limit applies to her S-Corp W-2 wages specifically, not to the guaranteed payments from the LLC. This distinction becomes important when you're maximizing contributions across multiple retirement vehicles. Finally, consider having a three-way conversation between yourself, your CPA, and the current 401k administrator. I found this approach eliminated a lot of back-and-forth and confusion about how the different contribution streams would work together. The administrator can often provide specific guidance on how to structure the employer contributions from the S-Corp level while coordinating with existing employee deferrals. Don't be embarrassed about asking your CPA for clarification - these multi-entity medical practice structures are genuinely complex, and even experienced professionals sometimes need to work through the details multiple times to get them right!
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Jean Claude
โขThis is excellent advice, especially about not rushing into implementation. I'm dealing with a somewhat similar situation (though mine involves a veterinary practice rather than medical), and I made the mistake of trying to implement profit sharing contributions too quickly without fully understanding all the implications. The point about getting clarity on the exact W-2 amount is crucial - I initially miscalculated my contribution limits because I was including income streams that didn't qualify as W-2 wages for the 25% calculation. This could have led to excess contribution issues if my plan administrator hadn't caught it during their review. The three-way conversation suggestion is spot on. When I finally got my CPA, myself, and the 401k administrator on the same call, we resolved in 30 minutes what had been weeks of confusing email exchanges. The administrator was able to walk us through exactly how they would process and track the different types of contributions, which eliminated a lot of uncertainty. One thing I'd add - make sure to document everything thoroughly once you do move forward. The IRS loves to see clear corporate resolutions and documentation showing the business purpose for profit sharing contributions, especially in closely-held S-Corps where the owner-employee is receiving the benefit.
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