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Do you still need to file taxes for a year when you didn't work or had no income?

I've hit a rough patch financially this past year and haven't actually held a job or made any income. I'm trying to figure out if I still need to go through the hassle of filing taxes for 2024. I know sometimes you can write off losses, but I'm honestly not sure if that applies to my situation or if I'm even required to file at all when I basically made zero dollars. I've heard mixed things from friends - some say don't bother filing if you made nothing, others say you always have to file no matter what. What's the real answer here? Do you NEED to file taxes when you didn't work or earn income? And if I don't file, could I get in trouble with the IRS later?

Whether you need to file taxes when you didn't have income depends on several factors. The IRS has filing thresholds based on your filing status, age, and other circumstances - not just whether you earned money. For most single filers under 65, you generally don't need to file if your gross income was less than $12,950 (for 2024 filing). If you're claimed as a dependent on someone else's return, the threshold is much lower - around $1,100 of unearned income or $12,950 of earned income. That said, there could be good reasons to file even with no income. You might qualify for refundable tax credits like the Earned Income Credit or the Recovery Rebate Credit. And if you had any tax withheld from a temporary job or unemployment benefits, filing would be the only way to get that money back. As for writing off losses - that typically applies to business losses or investment losses, not simply not having income. If you had an actual business that lost money, that's different and filing might benefit you.

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So what happens if I had no income but my parents don't claim me as a dependent? I'm 23 and living with them but they said they aren't claiming me this year. Do I still need to file something?

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If you're 23, not claimed as a dependent, and had no income, you generally don't need to file a federal tax return. The filing threshold for a single person under 65 is having gross income of at least $12,950 (for 2024), so with zero income, you're below that threshold. However, I'd still consider whether you might qualify for any refundable credits or if you had any tax withheld from a partial year of work, unemployment benefits, or other sources that you'd want to claim back. Also, some states have different filing requirements than federal, so check your state's rules too.

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Does it actually work with complicated situations? I have no income but I did sell some crypto at a loss. Would this catch that I might need to report that?

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How much does the service cost? I'm literally broke which is why I didn't have income last year, so paying for tax help seems counterproductive.

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Just wanted to update after using the taxr.ai service that someone recommended here. It actually was really helpful for my situation with no income but crypto losses. Turns out I DID need to file because of my crypto transactions, even though they were at a loss. The system flagged that I should report these losses now so I can potentially offset future gains when my finances improve. They also found that I qualified for a state property tax credit I had no idea about! The whole process took me like 20 minutes, way easier than I expected. Definitely less stressful than trying to figure all this out on my own or paying an accountant when I barely have money for groceries.

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Something no one mentioned yet - if you had health insurance through the marketplace (Obamacare) with premium tax credits, you ABSOLUTELY need to file, even with zero income. I learned this the hard way when I skipped filing during a year with no income and had to pay back all my premium subsidies the next year. Don't make my mistake!!

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Oof that sounds painful! How much did you end up having to pay back? I had marketplace insurance last year but didn't work...now I'm worried.

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I ended up having to pay back about $3,800 in premium tax credits that I would have been entitled to keep if I'd just filed my tax return. It was a hard lesson in filing even with no income when certain situations apply. You should definitely file if you had marketplace insurance! When you file, you'll complete Form 8962 to reconcile your premium tax credits, and with zero income, you'll likely get to keep all the subsidies. Don't wait - protect yourself by filing even with no income in this case.

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Another thing - some states have different filing requirements than federal. For example, I live in NJ and they require you to file a state return if your gross income was more than $10,000 regardless of your federal filing requirement. Check your state's rule!

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This! I'm in California and they have their own thresholds too. I think it's lower for single filers. Make sure to check your specific state rules.

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Great question! I went through this exact situation a few years ago. The short answer is that you're generally NOT required to file if you truly had zero income and meet certain conditions, but there are some important exceptions and reasons why you might still want to file. The key things to consider: 1. **Filing thresholds**: For 2024, if you're single and under 65, you don't need to file if your gross income was under $12,950. With zero income, you're well below this. 2. **Dependency status matters**: If someone can claim you as a dependent, the rules change significantly (much lower thresholds). 3. **You might still WANT to file**: Even with no income, you could qualify for refundable credits like the Earned Income Tax Credit, Child Tax Credit, or American Opportunity Tax Credit that could put money in your pocket. 4. **Special circumstances require filing**: If you had self-employment income of $400+, received advance premium tax credits for health insurance, or had certain other situations, you must file regardless of total income. My advice? Even if you're not required to file, it's often worth doing a quick check to see if you qualify for any refundable credits. The IRS won't penalize you for filing when you don't have to, but they might penalize you for NOT filing when you should have. You won't get in trouble for not filing if you truly weren't required to, but double-check those special circumstances first!

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This is such a helpful breakdown! I'm in a similar situation but I'm wondering about one specific thing - if I had a part-time job for like 2 months early in 2024 but made less than $3,000 total, and then nothing for the rest of the year, do I still fall under the "zero income" category you're talking about? I had taxes withheld from those paychecks so I'm thinking I should probably file to get that money back, but I want to make sure I understand the thresholds correctly.

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@Jade Lopez You definitely don t'fall under the zero "income category" since you earned $3,000! Even though it s'a relatively small amount, any earned income counts toward your gross income for filing threshold purposes. The good news is that with $3,000 in earnings, you re'still well below the $12,950 filing threshold for single filers, so you re'not *required* to file. However, since you had taxes withheld from those paychecks, you should absolutely file to get that money back as a refund! The IRS doesn t'automatically send you those withheld taxes - filing a return is the only way to claim them. Plus, with earned income of $3,000, you might qualify for the Earned Income Tax Credit, which could give you additional money beyond just getting your withholdings back. It s'definitely worth filing in your situation, even though you re'not required to.

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One thing I haven't seen mentioned yet is that even with zero income, you might want to consider filing if you're planning to apply for financial aid for college or other government assistance programs. Many of these programs require tax returns as proof of income (or lack thereof), and having an official tax return showing $0 income can actually be more helpful than having no return at all. I learned this when my sister was applying for financial aid - the school's financial aid office specifically asked for her tax return even though she hadn't worked that year. Filing a return with zero income provided the official documentation they needed to process her aid application quickly. Also, if you're married, keep in mind that your filing requirement might be different. Even if you individually had no income, if your spouse had income, you might need to file jointly or separately depending on your situation. The bottom line is that there's really no downside to filing when you had no income (other than the time it takes), but there can be several upsides, so when in doubt, it's usually worth doing.

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This is such a great point about financial aid applications! I wish I had known this earlier. I'm actually planning to go back to school next year and had no idea that having an official tax return showing zero income could be helpful for FAFSA. I was just going to skip filing altogether, but now I'm thinking I should file just to have that documentation ready. Do you know if this applies to other types of assistance programs too? Like if someone needs to apply for food stamps or housing assistance, would having a filed return showing zero income be better than just having no return at all?

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@Oliver Weber Yes, absolutely! Having a filed tax return showing zero income is typically much more helpful for most government assistance programs than having no return at all. Programs like SNAP food (stamps ,)Medicaid, housing assistance, and even some utility assistance programs often require income verification, and an official tax return is considered one of the strongest forms of documentation. When you have no filed return, caseworkers sometimes have to do additional verification steps or may require alternative documentation that can slow down your application. With a filed return showing $0 income, you re'providing clear, official documentation that speeds up the process. I d'definitely recommend filing even with zero income if you think there s'any chance you might need to apply for assistance programs in the future. It s'like having an official paper trail ready to go. Plus, as others mentioned, you might discover you qualify for refundable credits you didn t'know about!

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I want to add something important that hasn't been fully covered - if you received any unemployment benefits during 2024, even if it was your only income, you likely need to file a return. Unemployment is considered taxable income, and you should have received a Form 1099-G showing the amount. Many people don't realize that unemployment benefits are taxable at the federal level (and often at the state level too). Even if you elected to have taxes withheld from your unemployment payments, you'll still need to file to properly report this income and see if you're due a refund or owe additional taxes. This is different from having truly zero income from all sources. If unemployment was your only income and it was under the filing threshold ($12,950 for single filers in 2024), you might not be *required* to file federally, but you'd probably want to file anyway to claim back any taxes that were withheld. Also, some states that don't normally tax unemployment benefits made special exceptions during recent years, so definitely check your state's specific rules if this applies to your situation.

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This is such a crucial point that I think a lot of people miss! I actually made this exact mistake a couple years ago - I thought since unemployment was "government assistance" it wouldn't be taxable, so I didn't file when that was my only income. Big mistake! The IRS ended up sending me a notice because they had received the 1099-G from the state showing my unemployment benefits, but I never filed a return to report it. Even though I didn't owe any additional taxes (they had withheld enough), I still had to file to avoid penalties. What really surprised me was learning that unemployment benefits are taxed just like regular wages - they're not treated like other government benefits that might be tax-free. If anyone reading this received unemployment in 2024, definitely don't assume it's not taxable income just because it came from a government program.

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This is such a comprehensive discussion! I want to add one more scenario that caught me off guard - if you made any money from gig work (like DoorDash, Uber, freelance work, etc.) even for just a few jobs, you might need to file even with very little total income. The tricky thing with gig work is that you're considered self-employed, and if you made $400 or more from self-employment, you're required to file regardless of your other income. I learned this the hard way when I did some freelance graphic design work early in 2024 - made only $600 total for the whole year from a few small projects, but since it was self-employment income, I had to file. The good news is that with self-employment, you can often deduct business expenses that might reduce your taxable income significantly. Things like phone bills (if you used your phone for work), internet costs, supplies, even mileage if you drove for deliveries. Sometimes these deductions can make your net self-employment income much lower than what you actually received. Just wanted to mention this since gig work has become so common, and the $400 threshold for self-employment is much lower than the regular income filing thresholds that others have mentioned.

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This is such an important point about gig work that I think many people overlook! I had a similar situation where I did some TaskRabbit jobs and pet sitting through Rover for a few months when I was between regular jobs. Even though I only made about $800 total, I had to file because of that $400 self-employment threshold. What really helped me was keeping track of all my expenses - gas for driving to jobs, cleaning supplies I bought for TaskRabbit gigs, even dog treats I purchased for the pets I was watching. Those business deductions really added up and actually brought my taxable self-employment income down to almost nothing. One thing I'd add is that even if your net self-employment income after deductions ends up being less than $400, you might still want to file if you had any taxes withheld from other sources earlier in the year, or if you qualify for any refundable credits. It's always better to file and get money back than to miss out on a refund you're entitled to!

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I just want to emphasize something that might get lost in all the technical details here - even if you're not required to file, there's really no penalty for filing a return showing zero income, but there CAN be penalties for not filing when you should have. Given your situation, I'd honestly recommend erring on the side of caution and filing anyway. Here's why: the IRS has something called the "Volunteer Income Tax Assistance" (VITA) program that offers FREE tax preparation for people who make under $60,000. Since you had no income, you definitely qualify. They can help you figure out if you're eligible for any credits you might not know about. Also, think about your situation holistically - did you have ANY money coming in? Even small amounts from odd jobs, selling stuff online, cash payments for helping someone move, etc.? Sometimes we forget about these smaller income sources, but they can affect your filing requirement. The peace of mind of having an official return on file is worth the small amount of time it takes, especially since filing with zero income is pretty straightforward. You can use free filing software through the IRS website, and the whole process would probably take you less than an hour. Don't stress too much about this - you're being responsible by asking the question, and there are plenty of free resources to help you get it sorted out properly.

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This is really solid advice! I especially appreciate the point about VITA - I had no idea there were free tax preparation services available. That could be a game-changer for people like me who are intimidated by the whole process. Your point about thinking holistically is spot on too. I'm realizing I should probably sit down and really think through the entire year - did I sell anything on Facebook Marketplace? Did I do any cash work for neighbors? Even small amounts could add up or change my filing requirements. The "no penalty for filing when you don't have to" versus "potential penalty for not filing when you should have" really puts it in perspective. When you frame it that way, spending an hour to file seems like a no-brainer for the peace of mind alone. Thanks for breaking this down in such a practical way!

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I've been following this discussion and wanted to add one more perspective that might be helpful. As someone who works in tax preparation, I see this situation all the time, and the confusion is totally understandable because the rules really do depend on your specific circumstances. Here's what I tell clients in your situation: Start by gathering ANY documentation you might have from 2024 - even if you think it's not relevant. This includes bank statements, any 1099s that might have been sent to you, records of cash payments, crypto transactions, unemployment statements, health insurance documents, etc. You might be surprised what turns up. Then, I'd strongly recommend using one of the free filing options mentioned here or visiting a VITA site. Even if you end up not needing to file, having a tax professional or software walk through your specific situation will give you definitive answers rather than trying to piece together general advice. One thing I want to emphasize that others touched on - if you received ANY government benefits, had ANY withholdings from part-time work, or qualify for refundable credits, filing could actually put money in your pocket. I've seen people with zero traditional income receive refunds of $500-2000+ from various credits they never knew they qualified for. The worst case scenario if you file unnecessarily? You waste a couple hours. The worst case if you don't file when you should have? Penalties, interest, and missed opportunities for refunds. Pretty easy choice when you think about it that way!

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As someone who went through a similar situation, I want to reinforce what others have said and add a practical tip. I was unemployed for most of 2023 and agonized over whether to file, but I'm so glad I did. Even with zero traditional income, I ended up getting a $400 refund because I qualified for a state renter's credit I had no idea existed. The state filing software automatically flagged it when I entered my rent payments and income information. One thing that made the process less overwhelming was starting with the IRS Free File tool on their official website. It walks you through everything step by step and automatically determines if you need to file based on your answers. Even if you end up not needing to file federally, many states have their own requirements and credits that could benefit you. My biggest regret was waiting so long to start the process out of anxiety. Once I actually sat down and began entering information, the whole thing took maybe 45 minutes, and most of that was just locating documents. The software handles all the complicated threshold calculations for you. Bottom line: when in doubt, file. The potential upside (refunds, credits, peace of mind, official documentation) far outweighs the small time investment, especially when free tools are available to help you through it.

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This is exactly the kind of real-world example that helps cut through all the confusion! A $400 refund from a renter's credit you didn't even know about is such a perfect illustration of why it's worth filing even when you think you don't need to. I'm definitely going to check out that IRS Free File tool you mentioned. The step-by-step approach sounds way less intimidating than trying to figure everything out on my own. It's encouraging to hear that the whole process only took 45 minutes once you actually started - I think I've been building this up in my head as way more complicated than it actually is. Your point about starting sooner rather than later really resonates with me too. I've been putting this off because I was anxious about it, but all these responses are making me realize that the anxiety is probably worse than actually just doing it. Thanks for sharing your experience - it's really helpful to hear from someone who was in the same boat!

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I'm going through the exact same thing right now! Reading through all these responses has been incredibly helpful - I had no idea there were so many nuances to consider beyond just "did I make money or not." What really stands out to me from this discussion is that filing seems to be a "better safe than sorry" situation. Even if you're not required to file with zero income, there are so many potential benefits (refundable credits, documentation for aid programs, getting back any withheld taxes) and basically no downside other than the time investment. I'm definitely going to try that IRS Free File tool that was mentioned. The idea that it walks you through everything and automatically calculates whether you need to file based on your specific situation sounds perfect for someone like me who's been overthinking this whole process. Thanks to everyone who shared their experiences - especially hearing about people who discovered they qualified for credits or refunds they never knew about even with no traditional income. That alone makes it worth spending an hour to file, even if I end up owing nothing and getting nothing back.

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I'm so glad this discussion has been helpful for you! It really shows how valuable it is when people share their real experiences rather than just repeating generic advice. One thing I'd add that might make you feel even more confident about moving forward - since you're in the same situation as the original poster with no income, you're in one of the simplest filing scenarios possible. Even if you discover you have some small income source you forgot about, the Free File software is designed to handle these situations smoothly. I'd also suggest bookmarking this thread or taking notes on the key points people mentioned (like checking for marketplace insurance, unemployment benefits, gig work, etc.) so you can make sure you're thinking through all the possibilities as you go through the filing process. Having that checklist approach can help ensure you don't miss anything important. You've got this! The fact that you're being proactive and asking questions puts you way ahead of people who just guess or ignore it entirely.

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This thread has been incredibly thorough and helpful! As someone who's dealt with tax situations across different income levels, I want to add one more consideration that might be relevant to your situation. If you're planning to make income in 2025 and might owe taxes next year, filing a return for 2024 (even with zero income) can actually work in your favor. Here's why: if you end up owing taxes for 2025 and need to set up a payment plan with the IRS, having a filing history shows compliance and can make the process smoother. The IRS looks more favorably on taxpayers who have consistently filed returns, even in years when they weren't required to. Also, if you're thinking about starting any kind of business or side hustle in 2025, having that 2024 return on file establishes your taxpayer record and can be helpful when you need to prove your tax compliance for things like business loans or contracts. I'd echo what others have said about using the free resources available. The VITA program mentioned earlier is fantastic, and many libraries also offer free tax prep assistance during tax season. Don't let the fear of complexity stop you from potentially getting money back or establishing that important paper trail. The bottom line everyone's arrived at is solid: when you're unsure and the cost is just time, file. The potential benefits far outweigh the minimal effort involved, especially with all the free tools and assistance available.

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This is such a valuable perspective that I hadn't considered before! The idea that filing now could help establish a good relationship with the IRS for future years when I might actually owe taxes is really smart long-term thinking. I'm actually hoping to get back on my feet financially in 2025 and maybe start some freelance work, so having that filing history could definitely be beneficial down the road. It's interesting how something as simple as filing a zero-income return now could make things smoother later if I need to work with the IRS on payment plans or prove tax compliance. This whole discussion has really shifted my perspective from "do I have to?" to "why wouldn't I?" The combination of potential immediate benefits (credits, refunds, documentation) plus these longer-term advantages makes filing seem like such an obvious choice. Plus knowing there are free resources like VITA and library assistance makes it feel much more accessible. Thanks for adding that forward-looking angle - it's a great reminder that tax decisions aren't just about the current year but can impact your overall taxpayer standing going forward.

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