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Javier Mendoza

Do I need to file taxes if I had no income at all this year?

So I'm in a weird spot right now. Basically had ZERO income for all of 2024 because of health issues that kept me from working. I was living off savings from previous years and some help from family. Never got unemployment or disability or anything like that. I've always filed taxes before when I had a job, but now I'm confused if I even need to bother filing for 2024 since I literally made $0. Like, would the IRS even care or notice if I didn't file? Or am I still required to submit something even though I didn't make anything? Also, if I do need to file, how do I even do that when there's no W-2 or 1099 or anything to report? Do I just put zeros everywhere? Sorry if this is a dumb question, just never been in this situation before.

Emma Wilson

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You generally don't need to file a federal tax return if you had no income for the year. The IRS filing requirements are based on having income above certain thresholds, so with zero income, you typically have no filing requirement. However, there are a few situations where you might still want to file: 1. If you had any federal taxes withheld from something earlier in the year (like a short-term job before your health issues), you'd want to file to get that money refunded. 2. If you might qualify for refundable tax credits like the Earned Income Credit (though this usually requires some earned income). 3. If you're claimed as a dependent on someone else's return, the rules can be different. For most people with truly zero income from all sources, there's no requirement to file. But if you're concerned, filing a return with zeros isn't a bad idea - it creates a record showing you had no taxable income.

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Malik Davis

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What if someone gave me like $3000 as a gift throughout the year to help with bills? Does that count as income I need to report?

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Emma Wilson

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Gifts you receive are not considered taxable income, so that $3000 you received to help with bills doesn't need to be reported on your tax return. The person who gives the gift might have to file a gift tax return if they give more than $17,000 to any one person in a year, but that's their responsibility, not yours as the recipient. As for your second question, if you have absolutely no income to report, the IRS doesn't expect you to file a return. There's no specific "zero income" form. If you choose to file anyway (which some people do for record-keeping purposes), you would just use the standard 1040 form and enter zeros where appropriate.

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Ravi Gupta

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Does it actually give you official documentation that you can use if the IRS ever comes asking questions later? I'm in a similar situation and worried about getting in trouble down the road.

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GalacticGuru

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How much does it cost? Seems weird to pay for tax advice when you literally have no income lol.

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Diego Vargas

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Just wanted to add that you should check your STATE filing requirements too! Federal and state are different. Some states require you to file a state return even with minimal or no income. For example, I'm in NJ and they have different thresholds than the federal government. My friend in Virginia had to file a state return even though she didn't need to file federal. Google "[your state] tax filing requirements" to find the specific rules for your location.

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Do you know if California requires filing with zero income? I'm in the same situation as OP but can't find a clear answer for CA specifically.

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Diego Vargas

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California generally doesn't require you to file a tax return if your income is less than the standard deduction. For 2024, that's around $5,000 for single filers. With zero income, you typically wouldn't need to file a CA return. However, if you had any CA income tax withheld (which seems unlikely with zero income) or qualify for certain CA credits, you might want to file to claim those. The FTB (California's tax agency) website has a questionnaire that can help determine if you need to file based on your specific situation.

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StarStrider

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I went thru this exact thing last year! Even with 0 income you might still wanna file if: - You had health insurance through the marketplace/Obamacare with premium tax credits - You qualify for stimulus credits you didn't get yet - You had ANY withholding from early in the year before stopping work - You qualify for earned income credit with dependent children (tho u usually need some income) Otherwise ur good to skip filing! I didn't file last year with zero income and had no problems.

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Sean Doyle

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Wait I thought you needed at least some income to qualify for the Earned Income Credit? Can you really get it with $0 income?

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Dylan Wright

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You're right to question that - you generally need some earned income to qualify for the Earned Income Credit. With completely zero income, you typically won't qualify for EIC even with qualifying children. There are some very specific exceptions (like certain disability situations or military combat pay elections), but for most people with truly $0 income, the EIC isn't available. The other points about marketplace health insurance credits and any withholding from early in the year are still valid reasons to consider filing though.

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Wesley Hallow

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Hey Javier! I was in almost the exact same situation a couple years ago due to medical issues that kept me out of work for the entire tax year. The stress of not knowing what to do about taxes when you're already dealing with health problems is real. The good news is that with truly zero income, you're generally not required to file a federal tax return. The IRS filing requirements are based on income thresholds, and $0 is well below any threshold that would trigger a filing requirement. However, I'd strongly recommend keeping some kind of documentation about your situation - even just a simple written record of your health issues, the fact that you had no income, and that you researched the filing requirements. I did this and it gave me peace of mind in case any questions ever came up later. One thing to double-check: make sure you didn't have ANY income at all - no bank interest, no small side gigs, no unemployment benefits, nothing. Even small amounts might not require filing but it's good to be completely sure about your situation. Hope your health situation improves and you're able to get back on your feet soon!

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Laila Fury

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Thanks for sharing your experience Wesley! That's a really good point about keeping documentation. I never thought about creating a simple written record, but that makes total sense for peace of mind. I'm curious - did you end up having any issues later when you didn't file? Like did the IRS ever send you any notices or anything? I keep worrying that somehow not filing will come back to bite me even though everyone says it's fine with zero income. Also hoping @5496fe84f85f (Javier) sees this advice about documenting everything. When you're already stressed about health stuff, the last thing you want is tax anxiety on top of it!

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I appreciate everyone sharing their experiences and advice here! It's really helpful to hear from people who've been through similar situations. The health issues made everything so much more stressful, and not knowing about the tax stuff was just adding to the anxiety. Based on what everyone's saying, it sounds like I'm probably fine not filing since I truly had zero income. No interest, no side work, no benefits - literally nothing. I like the idea of keeping some documentation though, just for my own peace of mind. @5e58f030c941 (Wesley) - thanks for mentioning the documentation thing. I'm definitely going to write up a simple record of my situation and keep it with my other tax stuff. And thanks for the well wishes about my health - slowly getting better! I think I'm going to check out that taxr.ai tool that @354ff1d192ad (Isabella) mentioned just to get a clear answer for my specific situation. Having something in writing that confirms I don't need to file would definitely help me sleep better at night. You all are awesome for taking the time to help out someone in a tough spot. This community is great!

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Amina Bah

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Welcome to the community! I'm glad you found helpful advice here. As someone new to tax situations like this, I just wanted to add that it's totally normal to feel anxious about tax filing when you're in an unusual situation like having zero income due to health issues. One small tip from my own experience - when you do create that documentation Wesley mentioned, include the dates of when you researched the filing requirements and maybe even save some screenshots of the IRS website pages about filing thresholds. It shows you made a good faith effort to understand your obligations. Also, don't hesitate to come back and ask more questions if anything changes with your situation or if you need clarification on anything. This community has been really helpful for navigating confusing tax situations! Hope your health continues to improve and that you can put this tax worry behind you soon.

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Hey everyone! Just wanted to chime in as someone who works in tax prep - you're all giving great advice here. With truly zero income, there's no federal filing requirement, and Javier, you definitely don't need to stress about this on top of dealing with health issues. One thing I'd add is that even though you don't NEED to file, sometimes it can actually be beneficial to file a return showing zero income. It creates an official record with the IRS that you had no taxable income for that year, which can be helpful if you ever need to prove your income status for things like loan applications, government assistance programs, or even just for your own records. If you do decide to file just for documentation purposes, you'd use Form 1040 and essentially put zeros in all the income fields. It's pretty straightforward, and many free filing software options will handle it without any cost since your return would be so simple. But again, filing is completely optional in your situation - just wanted to mention it as a possibility if having that official documentation would give you peace of mind!

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Felix Grigori

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That's really helpful insight from a tax professional! I hadn't considered that filing a zero-income return could actually be beneficial for creating an official record. As someone new to this situation, I'm wondering - if someone does choose to file just for documentation purposes like you mentioned, are there any potential downsides or things to be aware of? For example, does filing a return with all zeros trigger any kind of additional scrutiny or follow-up questions from the IRS? I'd hate for someone in @5496fe84f85f's situation to file thinking it's helpful only to create more stress or complications. Also, when you mention it being useful for loan applications or government assistance - is that because those programs sometimes require tax returns as proof of income even if the income was zero?

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