Are SEP-IRA employee contributions tax deductible or am I getting double-taxed?
I've got a SEP-IRA set up through my small business employer, and I've been making my own monthly contributions to it (staying under the $6,000 annual limit) on top of what my employer puts in. The thing is, I'm making these contributions from my regular paychecks after taxes have already been taken out. What's confusing me is that I know when I eventually withdraw this money in retirement, I'll have to pay taxes on it again. So am I basically getting double-taxed on the portion I'm contributing myself? That seems unfair. When I did my taxes this year using TurboTax, it told me that my personal contributions to the SEP-IRA aren't tax deductible. Is that right? I feel like I'm missing something here. I've been searching online forever trying to find a clear answer to this but keep coming up empty. Any help would be greatly appreciated!
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Alice Fleming
It sounds like you might be confusing some aspects of how SEP-IRAs work. A SEP-IRA is an employer-sponsored plan where typically only the employer makes contributions, not the employee. The $6,000 limit you're referring to is actually for traditional or Roth IRAs, not for a SEP-IRA. What's likely happening is you're making contributions to a separate traditional IRA (or possibly a Roth IRA), not actually to your SEP-IRA. If it's a traditional IRA, those contributions should generally be tax-deductible unless your income exceeds certain limits or you're covered by another retirement plan at work (which you are with the SEP-IRA). If you're contributing to a Roth IRA, then yes, those contributions are made with after-tax money, and withdrawals in retirement are tax-free. This isn't double taxation - it's by design. I'd recommend checking your account statements to confirm exactly which type of account you're contributing to personally, as that will clarify the tax treatment.
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Steven Adams
•Oh wow, I think you're right. I just checked my statements and I see that I have both a SEP-IRA (where my employer contributes) AND a traditional IRA where I've been making my personal contributions. So these are actually two separate accounts? Does that mean my contributions to the traditional IRA should be tax deductible?
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Alice Fleming
•Yes, these are definitely two separate accounts with different rules. Your traditional IRA contributions may be deductible, but since you're covered by a workplace retirement plan (the SEP-IRA), your deduction might be limited or eliminated based on your income level. For 2024, if you're single and your Modified Adjusted Gross Income (MAGI) is under $73,000, you can take a full deduction. If it's between $73,000-$83,000, you get a partial deduction. Above $83,000, no deduction is allowed. The limits are different if you're married filing jointly. This is probably why TurboTax is telling you the contributions aren't deductible - your income might be above these thresholds. However, even non-deductible traditional IRA contributions have value because the earnings still grow tax-deferred.
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Hassan Khoury
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Victoria Stark
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Benjamin Kim
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Samantha Howard
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Megan D'Acosta
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Sarah Ali
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Samantha Howard
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Sarah Ali
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Ryan Vasquez
One important thing that hasn't been mentioned yet - if your traditional IRA contributions aren't deductible because of income limits (since you're covered by a SEP-IRA at work), you should file Form 8606 with your taxes to document those non-deductible contributions. This is super important because it establishes your "basis" in the IRA, which will prevent that money from being taxed again when you withdraw it in retirement. Without Form 8606, you risk getting double-taxed because the IRS won't have a record that you already paid tax on those contributions. Non-deductible traditional IRA contributions aren't ideal, but they're not terrible either. The earnings still grow tax-deferred, and you could potentially convert to a Roth later (though beware of pro-rata rules if you have other pre-tax IRA balances).
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Steven Adams
•That's really helpful, thank you! I had no idea about Form 8606. Does TurboTax automatically create this form if I tell it I made non-deductible contributions, or do I need to specifically look for it?
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Ryan Vasquez
•TurboTax should create Form 8606 automatically if you correctly indicate that you made non-deductible traditional IRA contributions. However, it's definitely worth double-checking before you file to make sure it's included. In TurboTax, after you enter your IRA contributions, it should ask questions to determine if they're deductible. When it determines they're not, it should generate the 8606. You can verify by looking at your forms list before filing. If you've filed previous years without Form 8606 for non-deductible contributions, you should consider filing amended returns to include it, as this establishes your basis for those years too.
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Avery Saint
Another option to consider is a backdoor Roth IRA contribution. If your income is too high to deduct traditional IRA contributions and too high for direct Roth contributions, you can: 1. Make a non-deductible contribution to a traditional IRA 2. Convert that traditional IRA to a Roth IRA soon after Since you already paid tax on the contribution, you only pay tax on any earnings between contribution and conversion (which is minimal if you convert quickly). This effectively gets you money into a Roth IRA despite income limits. BUT - big warning - if you have existing pre-tax money in ANY traditional IRA accounts (including your SEP-IRA), the pro-rata rule applies, which complicates things and could create unexpected tax consequences. Worth talking to a tax professional about your specific situation.
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Taylor Chen
•I did this last year and it worked great, but doesn't the SEP-IRA mess this up? I thought having SEP-IRA money makes the backdoor Roth more complicated because of the pro-rata rule?
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Zoey Bianchi
•You're absolutely right to be concerned about that! Yes, having a SEP-IRA does complicate the backdoor Roth strategy significantly. The pro-rata rule treats ALL of your traditional IRA accounts (including SEP-IRAs, SIMPLE IRAs, etc.) as one big pot when calculating the tax consequences of a Roth conversion. So if you have, say, $50,000 in your SEP-IRA (all pre-tax money) and you contribute $6,000 to a traditional IRA and try to convert just that $6,000 to Roth, the IRS sees you as having $56,000 total with only $6,000 being after-tax. You'd owe tax on about 89% of that $6,000 conversion, which defeats the whole purpose. One potential workaround is rolling your SEP-IRA into a 401(k) if your business offers one, since 401(k) balances don't count for the pro-rata rule. But that's getting pretty complex and definitely requires professional tax advice to execute properly.
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Rhett Bowman
Just to add another perspective - I went through this exact same confusion last year. The key thing that helped me was understanding that SEP-IRAs and traditional IRAs are completely separate accounts with different rules, even though they're both "IRAs." Your SEP-IRA is funded entirely by your employer (you as the business owner), and those contributions are tax-deductible for the business and tax-deferred for you personally. The contribution limits for SEP-IRAs are much higher - up to 25% of compensation or $66,000 for 2023. Your personal traditional IRA contributions of $6,000 are separate and subject to different rules. Since you have workplace retirement plan coverage (the SEP-IRA), your ability to deduct those personal contributions depends on your income level, which is why TurboTax is telling you they're not deductible. One thing to consider: if you can't deduct the traditional IRA contributions anyway, you might want to look into whether you're eligible for Roth IRA contributions instead. With a Roth, you pay tax now but withdrawals in retirement are tax-free, which might be better than non-deductible traditional IRA contributions that will be partially taxable in retirement.
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Yuki Ito
•This is really helpful! I think I've been overcomplicating this whole thing. So just to make sure I understand correctly - even though both accounts have "IRA" in the name, they're treated completely differently for tax purposes? The SEP-IRA is basically like having a retirement plan at work (which makes sense since I'm the employer), and that's why my personal traditional IRA contributions aren't deductible due to income limits. I'm definitely going to look into whether I qualify for Roth IRA contributions instead. At least then I'd know the money is truly after-tax and won't be taxed again in retirement, rather than dealing with this partial taxation situation with non-deductible traditional IRA contributions. Thanks for breaking this down so clearly - this is exactly the kind of explanation I needed!
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