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Justin Chang

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Has anyone here actually been audited for this kind of thing? I've been doing something similar with electronics and credit card rewards for years and just reporting the sales as income and purchases as expenses without factoring in the cashback. Now I'm worried I've been doing it wrong...

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Justin Chang

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That's really concerning. I wonder if it would trigger an audit if I suddenly start filing differently. The amounts weren't huge - maybe $5-6k in unreported profit over 3 years due to not accounting for the cashback properly. Do you think that's enough to worry about?

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$5-6k in unreported profit over 3 years is definitely significant enough to worry about. The IRS uses automated systems to flag inconsistencies, and if they notice a sudden change in how you're reporting similar income, it could trigger questions. However, voluntarily correcting past mistakes through amended returns actually demonstrates good faith compliance and typically results in better treatment than if they discover the errors during an audit. You'd likely just owe the additional tax plus interest (and possibly small penalties), but it's much better than having them find it later. I'd suggest consulting with a tax professional who can help you file the amended returns properly. They can also advise whether the amounts and circumstances warrant the effort and cost of amending versus just doing it correctly going forward.

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This is a really complex situation that highlights how cash back rewards in business contexts are treated differently than personal rewards. I've been following this thread and it seems like there's solid consensus that you need to treat the cash back as reducing your cost of goods sold rather than ignoring it entirely. One thing I haven't seen mentioned yet is the potential quarterly estimated tax payments. Since you're making consistent profits from this activity, you may need to make quarterly payments if you expect to owe more than $1,000 in taxes for the year. The IRS can penalize you for underpayment even if you file correctly at year-end. Also, keep in mind that as a California resident, you'll need to handle state taxes too. California generally follows federal treatment for business income, so the same principles should apply for your state return. I'd strongly recommend keeping detailed records going forward - not just for the cash back calculations, but also for any expenses related to your coin business (gas for pickups/deliveries, storage costs, etc.) since these can be legitimate business deductions on Schedule C.

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GalacticGuru

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This is really helpful about the quarterly payments - I hadn't even thought about that! Since I'm making steady profits throughout the year, I definitely don't want to get hit with underpayment penalties. Do you know if there's a specific threshold or formula for calculating how much the quarterly payments should be? I'm probably looking at around $1,500-2,000 in additional tax liability for the year once I factor in the cash back properly. Also, thanks for mentioning the California state tax implications. I was so focused on the federal side that I completely overlooked how this might affect my state return. Good to know they generally follow the same treatment.

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CosmicCowboy

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This is such helpful information for anyone doing gig work! I've been doing occasional UserTesting sessions myself and had no idea about the separate bank account strategy - that's going to make tracking so much easier going forward. One thing I wanted to add for anyone reading this: if you're doing UserTesting while unemployed like the original poster, don't forget to check if your state has any specific requirements for self-employment income reporting. Some states have different thresholds or additional forms beyond what's required federally. Also, since you mentioned you're job hunting - keep in mind that any expenses related to your job search (resume services, interview travel, etc.) might also be deductible depending on your situation. It's worth looking into all the deductions available to you while you're between regular employment. The record-keeping advice everyone's given is spot on. I use a simple spreadsheet with columns for date, amount, and description of each UserTesting payment. Takes maybe 30 seconds to update after each test, but it'll save hours come tax time!

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This is really comprehensive advice! I'm new to gig work and just started with UserTesting last month. The spreadsheet idea is perfect - I've been taking screenshots of payments but not organizing them properly. Quick question about state requirements - I'm in Texas, which doesn't have state income tax. Does that mean I only need to worry about the federal Schedule C and SE forms, or are there still other state-level business requirements I should know about for self-employment income? Also, thanks for mentioning job search expenses! I hadn't thought about those being potentially deductible. I've been using a resume service and driving to interviews, so that could add up.

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KingKongZilla

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@Alexis Renard You re'in luck being in Texas! Since there s'no state income tax, you only need to worry about federal forms Schedule (C and SE with your 1040 .)No additional state business forms required for self-employment income like UserTesting. However, keep in mind that if your gig work grows significantly, you might eventually need to consider other business registrations at the local level, but for occasional UserTesting that s'not a concern. For job search expenses, definitely track those! Under current tax law, unreimbursed job search expenses in your current field can potentially be deductible. Keep receipts for resume services, travel to interviews, career coaching, etc. Even if you can t'deduct them this year due to tax law changes, it s'good to have the documentation just in case regulations change. The screenshot + spreadsheet combo is perfect for staying organized. I d'also suggest keeping a simple folder physical (or digital for) any business-related receipts like that microphone upgrade or internet bills. Makes everything much smoother at tax time!

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Heather Tyson

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One thing I'd add to all this excellent advice - if you're doing UserTesting regularly while job hunting, consider treating it as a legitimate business from day one. This means not just tracking income and expenses, but also keeping records of the time you spend, the types of tests you complete, and any skills you're developing. I've been doing various gig work for a few years now, and what surprised me was how much more confident I became discussing my "freelance UX testing experience" in job interviews. It's real work experience that demonstrates initiative, tech skills, and the ability to provide detailed feedback - all valuable qualities employers look for. Also, regarding the record-keeping everyone's mentioned - I'd recommend setting up a simple system right away rather than trying to reconstruct everything later. Even if you're only making $50/month now, good habits will save you massive headaches if your gig income grows. I use a basic Google Sheets template with tabs for income, expenses, and mileage (if applicable), and I update it weekly. Takes maybe 5 minutes but makes tax prep so much smoother. Good luck with both the gig work and the job search! Having that extra income can definitely take some pressure off while you're looking for the right opportunity.

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This is such great advice about treating gig work as legitimate business experience! I never thought about how UserTesting could actually strengthen my resume and interview skills. The feedback and communication aspects really are transferable skills. Your point about starting good record-keeping habits early really resonates with me. I'm just getting started with this, but I can already see how even small amounts could add up over time, especially if I expand to other platforms. The Google Sheets idea sounds perfect - simple but organized. One question: when you mention discussing "freelance UX testing experience" in interviews, do you find that employers view gig work positively? I've been hesitant to mention it because I wasn't sure if it would be seen as "real" work experience or just a side hustle. It would be great to know it could actually be an asset in my job search!

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Ravi Kapoor

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Don't forget that if you owe more than $1,000 and didn't have proper withholding or make estimated payments throughout the year, you might face an "underpayment of estimated tax" penalty (Form 2210) regardless of when you file or pay the balance due.

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Is there any way to get that underpayment penalty waived? I had a big unexpected income bump in December that threw off all my tax planning.

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There are a few situations where the underpayment penalty can be waived. The most common exceptions are: 1) If you had no tax liability in the prior year, 2) If you're a qualifying farmer or fisherman, 3) If the underpayment was due to casualty, disaster, or unusual circumstances, or 4) If you meet the "annualized income installment method" which can help if your income was uneven throughout the year. For your situation with the December income bump, you might want to look into the annualized income method on Form 2210. This lets you calculate penalties based on when you actually earned the income rather than assuming equal quarterly payments. If most of your income came late in the year, this method could potentially reduce or eliminate the penalty since you wouldn't have been expected to make estimated payments on income you hadn't earned yet.

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Yara Nassar

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This is exactly the situation I was in last year! Here's what I learned the hard way: while there's no interest benefit to paying early (since interest starts accruing after April 15th regardless), filing early gives you peace of mind and more options. What really helped me was getting on a payment plan as soon as possible. Even if you can't pay the full amount by April 15th, paying SOMETHING reduces the balance that penalties and interest accrue on. For example, if you owe $5,000 but can scrape together $2,000 by the deadline, you'll only pay penalties and interest on the remaining $3,000. Also, don't beat yourself up too much about the withholding mistakes - it happens to more people than you'd think, especially when income changes or life circumstances shift. The key is learning from it and adjusting for next year. I immediately updated my W-4 after dealing with my tax debt and started making quarterly estimated payments to avoid the same mess this year. One last tip: if you're really stressed about the numbers, consider using the IRS Online Payment Agreement tool. It shows you exactly what your monthly payments would be and the total interest/penalties you'd pay under different scenarios. Having that concrete information really helped calm my nerves.

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Joshua Wood

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This is really reassuring to hear from someone who's been through it! I'm definitely feeling overwhelmed by all the numbers and potential penalties. The idea of paying something by the deadline to reduce the balance that penalties accrue on is smart - I hadn't thought about that approach. Quick question: when you set up your payment plan, did you have to pay any setup fees? And did having a payment plan affect your credit score at all? I'm trying to weigh all the options and understand the full picture before making decisions. Also really appreciate the reminder about updating withholdings for next year - that's definitely going to be priority #1 once I get this mess sorted out!

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For your eBay business selling vintage video games and collectibles, I'd recommend looking at 451120 - "Hobby, Toy, and Game Stores" since video games seem to be your primary focus. This code specifically covers retailers of video games and would be most accurate for your business. If you're selling a really mixed variety where no single category dominates, then 454110 - "Electronic Shopping and Mail-Order Houses" would be the safer general e-commerce option. The key is to track your sales by category for a month or two and see what makes up the majority of your revenue. That should guide your NAICS code selection. And don't worry too much - you can always update it as your business evolves! One tip: make sure you're keeping detailed records of your inventory costs and shipping expenses. These are often the biggest deductions for eBay sellers regardless of which NAICS code you choose.

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This is really helpful advice! I'm actually in a similar situation as the original poster - just starting to formalize my eBay business. I've been selling mostly vintage electronics and some collectible items for about 6 months now. Your point about tracking sales by category is smart. I never thought to actually analyze what percentage of my revenue comes from each type of item I sell. I've just been lumping everything together as "online sales" in my basic spreadsheet. Do you have any recommendations for simple inventory tracking software that works well for small eBay sellers? I'm worried I'm going to mess up my record-keeping if I don't get more organized soon.

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Great question! I went through this exact same process last year when I started treating my eBay selling more seriously. For your situation selling vintage video games and collectibles, I'd definitely lean toward 451120 - "Hobby, Toy, and Game Stores" since video games seem to be your main focus. This code is specifically designed for businesses that sell games and hobby items, which sounds like a perfect fit. However, if your sales are really mixed across different categories without one clear winner, then 454110 - "Electronic Shopping and Mail-Order Houses" gives you more flexibility as a general e-commerce classification. One thing that helped me decide was looking at my sales data for the past few months and calculating what percentage came from each category. If 60%+ of your revenue is from video games, go with the hobby/game store code. If it's more evenly split, the general e-commerce code is safer. Also, don't stress too much about getting it "perfect" - the IRS cares more about accurate reporting of your income and expenses than having the absolutely perfect NAICS code. You can always adjust it next year if your business focus changes!

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Khalil Urso

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This is such great advice, thank you! I'm actually just getting started with my own eBay business and this whole NAICS code thing has been stressing me out. I've been selling mostly sports memorabilia and trading cards for about 3 months now, making around $800/month. Your suggestion about analyzing the sales data by percentage is really smart - I hadn't thought to break it down that way. I've just been thinking "I sell stuff online" but you're right that I need to be more specific about what my primary business activity actually is. Quick question - when you say "adjust it next year," do you mean you can change your NAICS code on your tax return from year to year? Or do you have to file some kind of amendment with the IRS? I'm worried about making the wrong choice and being stuck with it.

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Ella Harper

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9 Hi all, small business landlord here. Please make sure you're sending those 1099s correctly! I've had tenants who either don't send them at all (which is a problem) OR who report the same payment across multiple years (even worse). As others have said, just report what you actually paid in the calendar year. And please double-check the mailing address - I get so many 1099s sent to old addresses even though I've updated my W-9 multiple times.

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This is really helpful perspective from the landlord side! I never thought about how incorrect 1099s could cause problems for you. I'll definitely double-check that I'm using your most current W-9 information. Quick question - when you say "report the same payment across multiple years," do you mean some tenants might report 2023 rent on both their 2023 and 2024 1099s if they paid late? That does sound like it would create a mess for everyone involved.

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LongPeri

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Exactly! That's one of the most common mistakes I see. A tenant will pay late rent in January for December, then report it on both years' 1099s - once because they "owed" it in the previous year, and again because they "paid" it in the current year. This creates a nightmare because the IRS sees double reporting of the same income. I've had to deal with IRS notices asking why my reported income didn't match the 1099s, and it's always a headache to sort out. The cash basis rule really is simple - just report when you actually made the payment, period.

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Grace Lee

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This is such a common issue for small business owners who had payment difficulties during tough times. I went through something similar when I had to catch up on several months of contractor payments after a slow period. The key thing to remember is that 1099 reporting follows the "cash method" - you report payments in the year you actually made them, regardless of when the work was performed or when the debt was originally incurred. So for your situation, all the rent payments you made in 2024 should be reported on your 2024 1099-MISC to your landlord, even if some of those payments were for rent that was originally due in 2023. Don't worry about the timing mismatch - this is exactly how the IRS expects it to be handled. Your landlord will report this as 2024 income on their tax return, which will match your 2024 1099 reporting. Just make sure you have good records showing the dates you actually made each payment, and you should be all set. The IRS is used to seeing these situations where businesses catch up on past-due obligations.

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