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I've helped several clients through interstate LLC moves, and there are a few key points to add to the excellent advice already shared here: First, regarding the EIN question - you definitely need a new one. The IRS is very clear that when you dissolve an LLC and form a new one (even with identical operations), it's considered a new legal entity requiring a new EIN. Don't try to use the old EIN with your new Colorado LLC as this will create tax filing complications. For the dissolution/formation process, I'd strongly recommend consulting with attorneys in both states. Arizona has specific dissolution requirements including publication in some counties, and Colorado has its own formation procedures. The timing matters too - you want to avoid any gaps that could affect your business continuity or create liability issues. One often-overlooked aspect is sales tax registration. If you collect sales tax, you'll need to close your Arizona sales tax account and register for a new one in Colorado. This can take several weeks, so plan accordingly. Also consider whether you have any Arizona-specific business licenses or permits that won't transfer to Colorado. Some professional services require state-specific licensing that you'll need to obtain in Colorado before you can legally operate there. The statutory conversion option mentioned by Amina is worth exploring too - it might save you significant time and paperwork if both states allow it.
This is incredibly comprehensive advice, thank you! The sales tax registration point is something I hadn't even considered yet. Since I do collect sales tax on some of my services, this could definitely create complications if I don't time it right. Quick question about the statutory conversion option - do you know roughly how long that process typically takes compared to the dissolve/reform approach? I'm trying to weigh the time savings against any potential complications. My business is pretty straightforward (just consulting services), so I'm wondering if the simpler dissolution route might actually be easier even if it takes a bit longer. Also, regarding the Arizona publication requirements you mentioned - is that something that applies to all LLCs or only in certain counties? I'm currently registered in Maricopa County if that makes a difference.
Great question about the timing comparison! In my experience, statutory conversions typically take 4-6 weeks from start to finish, while the dissolve/reform approach usually takes 6-10 weeks total. The conversion process has fewer moving parts since you're essentially just changing the LLC's domicile rather than creating an entirely new entity. However, for straightforward consulting businesses like yours, the dissolve/reform route often provides a cleaner separation and can be easier to explain to clients and vendors. You also get a fresh start with all your registrations and filings. Regarding Arizona's publication requirements - good news for you! Maricopa County does NOT require dissolution publication. Only a few Arizona counties (like Cochise and Yuma) have publication requirements for LLC dissolutions. So you'll just need to file the Articles of Dissolution with the Arizona Corporation Commission and handle the final tax filings. Since you're in consulting and collect sales tax on some services, I'd definitely recommend the dissolve/reform approach. It gives you a clear break between the old and new entities, which makes the sales tax registration transition much cleaner. Just make sure to coordinate the timing so you don't have any gap in your ability to collect sales tax in Colorado.
Having gone through a similar LLC move from New Jersey to Delaware about 18 months ago, I can confirm what others have shared about needing a new EIN. What I'd add is to be prepared for some unexpected admin work with your existing business relationships. One thing that caught me off guard was that several of my long-term clients required me to go through their vendor re-registration process as if I was a completely new supplier, even though I explained it was the same business just relocated. This included new background checks, insurance verification, and in one case, a completely new contract negotiation. Also, if you use any business software subscriptions tied to your EIN (like certain accounting software, business credit monitoring, etc.), you'll need to update those with your new EIN. Some providers treated this as a new account setup rather than an account transfer, which meant losing historical data in a few cases. For your Arizona to Colorado move specifically, Colorado is pretty business-friendly for LLC formations, but they do require a registered agent if you don't have a Colorado address initially. Make sure to factor that into your timeline and costs. The whole process was ultimately worth it for me, but definitely plan for more complexity than it initially appears!
This is such valuable insight about the vendor re-registration process! I hadn't considered that clients might treat this as essentially onboarding a new vendor even though it's the same person providing the same services. That's definitely something I need to factor into my timeline and potentially discuss with my key clients beforehand. The point about business software subscriptions is also really helpful. I use several SaaS platforms for project management and invoicing that are tied to my current EIN, so I'll need to make a list of all those accounts and plan for potential data migration issues. Losing historical data would be a real pain, especially for accounting and client relationship tracking. Thanks for mentioning the Colorado registered agent requirement too - I was planning to use my new home address, but since I won't be physically there until after the LLC formation, I'll need to arrange for a registered agent service initially. Do you remember roughly what that cost you during your transition, or did you find any particularly reliable services for that?
Does anyone know how long IRS Direct Deposit refunds are taking this year? Got my W-2 yesterday and planning to file this weekend.
Great question! As someone who made similar mistakes early on, I'd definitely recommend taking your time rather than rushing. The key is making sure you have ALL your tax documents before filing. Since you mentioned having a side gig last year that you forgot about, create a checklist of all possible income sources: W-2s from all employers, 1099s from freelance work, banks (interest), investment accounts, student loan servicers, unemployment benefits, etc. Even small amounts matter! I keep a simple spreadsheet with what I received last year as a reference. Most 1099s are due by January 31st, but some can come as late as February 15th. If you're expecting a refund and have all your documents, filing early is fine. But if there's any doubt about missing income, it's worth waiting a few extra weeks to avoid the headache of amending your return. The peace of mind from being thorough is definitely worth more than getting your refund a couple weeks earlier!
Am I the only one who finds it ridiculous that the IRS still uses all these paper forms? Every year I stress about whether I've filled them out correctly. And the instruction booklet is like 20 pages long for what should be a simple form. No wonder everyone's confused about this stuff.
The IRS has actually been trying to move more toward electronic filing! They've increased the e-file threshold requirements over the years. I think for 2025 filing season, businesses that need to file 10 or more information returns are required to e-file. But yeah, the paper forms are confusing. I think they keep them because some small businesses or elderly business owners still prefer paper. The whole tax system needs modernization.
That's good to know about the e-filing push. Still, 10 forms seems like a high threshold when the process is so much easier electronically. I only have to file 3-4 1099s each year, so I'm not required to e-file, but I'm definitely going to look into it for next year because these paper forms are driving me crazy. And you're right about the tax system needing modernization. It feels like we're using 1980s processes in 2025!
I completely understand your confusion! I went through the exact same thing my first year filing 1099s. You're absolutely correct - you would put "2" in the box asking for the number of forms on your 1096. The 1096 is just the transmittal form that goes with your 1099-NECs, so it doesn't count toward that total. One tip that helped me: I always double-check that the total dollar amounts on all my 1099-NECs add up to what I'm reporting on the 1096. It's an easy way to catch any math errors before sending everything off. Also, make sure you're using the current year's 1096 form - I made that mistake once and had to refile everything! Don't worry about asking "stupid" questions - the IRS forms can be confusing even for people who've been doing them for years. Better to ask and get it right than to file incorrectly and deal with correspondence later.
Thanks for that tip about double-checking the dollar amounts! That's actually really smart - I never thought to cross-reference those totals but it makes perfect sense as a way to catch errors before submitting. I'm definitely going to start doing that from now on. And you're so right about using the current year's forms - I can imagine how frustrating it would be to have to refile everything because of using an old version. I always download fresh copies from the IRS website just to be safe, but it's good to know that's actually important and not just me being overly cautious. Really appreciate the reassurance too. It does feel silly asking about something that seems so basic, but you're right that it's better to get it right the first time!
Important point everyone is missing: If you use the standard mileage deduction rate for the first year, you can switch between standard mileage and actual expenses in future years. But if you use actual expenses the first year, you're LOCKED IN to using actual expenses for the life of that vehicle. THIS IS HUGE if you're buying a car specifically for gig work. Get professional advice before making this decision because it could cost you thousands over the life of the vehicle if you choose wrong in year one. Also, keep a mileage log no matter what method you choose. IRS requires it even if you go with actual expenses. There are good apps for this - I use Stride.
Do you have a source for this? I've been using actual expenses for 2 years now and was planning to switch to standard mileage this year since I'm driving way more now. Am I actually not allowed to switch?
Yes, this is directly from IRS Publication 463 (Travel, Gift, and Car Expenses). The exact text states: "If you want to use the standard mileage rate for a car you own, you must choose to use it in the first year the car is available for use in your business. Then, in later years, you can choose to use either the standard mileage rate or actual expenses." And further: "If you choose to use actual expenses in the first year, you cannot use the standard mileage rate in a later year." So unfortunately, since you've been using actual expenses for 2 years, you're locked into continuing with that method for this specific vehicle. However, if you get a different vehicle in the future, you could choose the standard mileage rate for that new vehicle. This is why getting good advice before making these decisions is so important.
Something else to consider that might affect your decision - if you're consistently making $650/week between both of you from gig work, you're looking at around $33,800 annually in self-employment income. This means you'll owe self-employment tax (15.3%) on top of regular income tax. A dedicated business vehicle can help offset some of that tax burden, but make sure you're also setting aside money quarterly for estimated tax payments. The IRS expects you to pay as you go when you're self-employed, not just at year-end. Also, don't forget about business insurance. Your personal auto policy likely won't cover you during commercial activities. You'll need either rideshare coverage or commercial insurance, which will be another deductible business expense if you go the actual expenses route. One more tip: if you do buy a dedicated gig car, consider getting it inspected and any needed repairs done before you start using it for business. Those initial repair costs could potentially be deductible as startup expenses.
This is really helpful info about the self-employment tax implications! I hadn't fully considered how much we'll owe on that $33,800. Quick question - when you mention getting repairs done before starting business use, does that mean I should buy the car and get it fixed up BEFORE I start using it for deliveries? Or can I start using it right away and still deduct those initial repairs as startup costs? I'm looking at a used car that might need some minor work but want to make sure I handle the timing correctly for tax purposes.
Justin Trejo
This has been such an enlightening discussion! As someone new to this community who's facing a similar situation next year, I've learned so much from everyone's shared experiences. I'm particularly grateful for the clarification that the Section 121 exclusion truly reduces AGI, not just taxable income. When we sell our house with an estimated $850K gain, our AGI will only increase by $350K (the amount above the $500K married filing jointly exclusion), not the full gain amount. That's still significant for student loan calculations, but much more manageable than I initially feared. The strategies everyone has shared are incredibly practical: - Proactive contact with loan servicers using specific terminology like "alternative documentation for one-time income event" - Strategic timing of the sale relative to annual recertification dates - Thorough documentation including closing statements, tax returns, and explanation letters - Creating organized filing systems well in advance One question I haven't seen addressed: for those who successfully used alternative documentation, did you find it helpful to include projected income information for the following tax year to demonstrate that your income would return to normal levels? I'm wondering if showing forward-looking income stability strengthens the case that this truly was a one-time event. Thanks to everyone who shared their real-world experiences - this community has transformed what seemed like an overwhelming situation into something completely manageable with proper planning!
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Emily Nguyen-Smith
ā¢Welcome to the community! You've clearly absorbed a lot of valuable information from this thread, and your question about including forward-looking income projections is really thoughtful. From my experience going through this process, including projected income information can definitely be helpful, especially if you have stable employment with predictable income. I included a brief section in my explanation letter showing my regular salary/income for the year before the sale, the year of the sale (highlighting the one-time nature of the capital gains), and my expected return to normal income levels the following year. Some loan servicers specifically ask for this type of forward-looking information on their alternative documentation forms. Even if they don't require it, demonstrating income stability before and after the house sale helps paint a clear picture that this truly was an isolated financial event, not a permanent change in your earning capacity. I'd suggest including recent pay stubs, an employment verification letter if possible, and maybe even a simple one-page summary showing your income timeline (past/present/future) to make it crystal clear that your income will return to normal levels after the house sale year. Your approach of thoroughly planning this out in advance is exactly right. Having all your documentation organized and your strategy mapped out will make the actual process so much smoother when the time comes. Good luck with your sale!
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Zoe Christodoulou
This thread has been incredibly helpful for someone in my exact situation! My husband and I are planning to sell our primary residence in about 3 months with an expected $725K capital gain. After reading through everyone's experiences, I now understand that only $225K (the amount above our $500K married filing jointly exclusion) will be added to our AGI, not the full gain. I've already started implementing the proactive strategies mentioned here - I called our loan servicer (Nelnet) yesterday to ask about their "alternative documentation of income for one-time capital gains events" process. They have a specific form called "Income Exception Request" and the representative was very familiar with house sale situations. They estimated 6-8 weeks processing time, so I'm planning to submit everything immediately after filing our taxes. One tip I wanted to add for others preparing for this - I've been working with our realtor and lender to ensure we have flexibility in our closing date. Being able to control whether we close in December vs January could make a significant difference in managing the AGI impact relative to our loan recertification timeline. The documentation checklist everyone has shared is gold - I'm already gathering closing statements, improvement receipts, and preparing explanation letters. It's amazing how much stress this planning ahead is relieving. Thanks to everyone who shared their real experiences - this community has made what seemed impossible completely manageable!
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Khalil Urso
ā¢This is such valuable information about Nelnet's "Income Exception Request" form! It's really helpful to know that different servicers have their own specific forms for these situations - it sounds like most major servicers have developed streamlined processes for capital gains events. Your point about coordinating with your realtor and lender to maintain flexibility in closing dates is brilliant. I hadn't thought about involving the real estate side of the team in the tax and loan planning strategy, but having that control over the timing could be crucial for optimizing the whole situation. One thing that strikes me about your approach is how organized and proactive you're being - calling the servicer months in advance, gathering documentation early, and coordinating across multiple professionals (tax, real estate, loans). This level of preparation seems to be the common thread among everyone who's successfully navigated this situation with minimal stress. I'm curious - when you spoke with Nelnet about the 6-8 week processing timeline, did they mention whether you can submit the documentation before your annual recertification date, or do you need to wait until after the tax year with the house sale? I'm trying to figure out the optimal timing for my own situation. Thanks for adding your servicer-specific insights to this incredibly helpful thread!
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