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Just be careful with using assessed values! I'm in California and our assessed values are based on Prop 13 which limits increases to 2% per year regardless of actual market appreciation. My client tried using the assessed value for inherited property and it was WAY below market value at the time of death. Would have resulted in a huge overtaxation when they sold!
This is a great point. I'm in Florida and our property assessed values can also be wildly off from actual market value. If your client is in a state with similar property tax limitations, what approach did you end up using instead?
Great question! I've dealt with this exact scenario multiple times. The key is establishing a "reasonable" basis using whatever documentation you can gather. Here are the methods I've successfully used: 1. **County assessment records** - While not perfect, they're acceptable when properly adjusted. Look at the assessment-to-sale price ratios in that area during the inheritance year. 2. **Zillow/online estimates** - Print out historical estimates from the inheritance date. While not ideal, I've seen these accepted when combined with other evidence. 3. **Real estate agent CMAs** - Many agents can pull historical comparable sales data going back 10+ years. This creates a solid foundation for your basis calculation. 4. **Estate tax returns** - Check if the estate filed Form 706. Even if not required, sometimes executors file anyway and include property valuations. The IRS understands that perfect documentation isn't always available for inherited property. Document your methodology clearly, show good faith effort to determine fair market value, and keep detailed records of your approach. I've never had an issue when the method was reasonable and well-documented. Time-wise, you might consider filing an extension if you need more time to gather supporting documentation properly.
This is incredibly helpful! I'm new to dealing with inherited property basis issues and this breakdown is exactly what I needed. Quick question about the Zillow estimates - do you typically print screenshots from the date of inheritance, or do they actually have historical data that shows what their estimate was back then? I'm worried about using current estimates that might be trying to "guess" what the value was 10 years ago versus actual historical records from that time. Also, regarding the extension filing - is there a specific form or process for requesting additional time when you're gathering basis documentation, or do you just file a regular extension and explain the situation?
Another avenue worth exploring is checking with local title insurance companies in the area where the properties are located. Even if you don't know which specific company handled your father's transactions, many title companies maintain searchable databases of past transactions and can look up properties by address or owner name going back decades. I also want to mention that if you're completely unable to establish the original purchase price through any of these methods, the IRS does allow you to use "reconstructed records" as long as you can demonstrate that you made a good faith effort to locate the actual records. This might involve getting appraisals that estimate what the property would have been worth at the time of purchase, using historical market data and comparable sales. Keep detailed documentation of every attempt you make to find the original records - phone calls, letters, visits to offices, etc. This paper trail will be crucial if the IRS ever questions your cost basis determination. The fact that your father's stroke affected his memory and that he kept poor records creates a legitimate hardship situation that the IRS typically accommodates when reasonable efforts have been made to reconstruct the information.
This is really comprehensive advice, thank you! The reconstructed records approach gives me some peace of mind - I was worried that without exact documentation I'd be completely stuck. I've already started documenting my search efforts after reading the earlier suggestions about county records and bank files. One question about the title insurance company approach - would I need to contact every title company in the area, or is there usually one dominant company that handles most transactions? Also, when you mention getting appraisals for historical values, would those need to be done by certified appraisers, or are there other ways to establish reasonable estimates for what properties were worth 20+ years ago? I'm feeling much more optimistic about this whole situation now. It seemed impossible when I first posted, but there are clearly more options than I realized.
For title companies, I'd suggest starting with 2-3 of the largest/oldest companies in your area rather than contacting every single one. You can usually find out which companies have been operating the longest by checking with your state's insurance department or local real estate association. These established companies are more likely to have extensive historical records. Regarding appraisals for historical values, you have several options beyond certified appraisers (though those would be the gold standard). You can use: automated valuation models that show historical data, real estate websites that track historical property values, or even evidence from comparable sales in the area during the time period your father likely purchased. The key is using multiple data sources to support your reasonable estimate. For what it's worth, I've seen the IRS accept cost basis reconstructions based on much less documentation when taxpayers could show they made genuine efforts to locate records. Your situation with your father's stroke and poor record-keeping is exactly the type of circumstance where the IRS tends to be more accommodating, especially if you can show you've exhausted the reasonable avenues for finding the original information. Keep documenting everything - even dead ends help demonstrate your good faith effort. You're definitely on the right track now!
I went through this exact situation with my father-in-law's properties after he developed dementia. One resource that hasn't been mentioned yet is checking with the local building department or planning office. If your father made any significant improvements to these rental properties over the years (additions, major renovations, etc.), there should be building permits on file that show the dates and estimated costs of the work. These improvements would increase your cost basis, and building departments typically keep permit records indefinitely. Even if you can't find the original purchase price, having documentation of substantial improvements can significantly reduce your capital gains tax liability. Also, if your father was meticulous about anything, check for old homeowner's or rental property insurance policies in his files. Insurance companies require periodic updates of coverage amounts, so even old policy renewal notices might give you clues about property values at different points in time. Sometimes people keep these documents in safety deposit boxes or with important papers even when they don't keep other financial records. Don't give up - I know it feels overwhelming, but between all these suggestions, you'll likely find enough information to establish a reasonable basis that will satisfy the IRS requirements.
This is such great advice about checking building permits! I never would have thought of that. My dad was actually pretty particular about maintaining his properties - I remember him mentioning putting new roofs on a couple of them and updating some electrical systems over the years. The building department route seems especially promising because those records would be completely independent of anything my dad kept (or didn't keep) personally. And you're right that improvements to basis could make a huge difference in the tax calculation. I'm curious - when you went through this with your father-in-law's properties, were you able to piece together enough information to satisfy the IRS? Did you end up needing to use the reconstructed records approach, or did you find enough actual documentation? I'm trying to get a sense of how much evidence is typically "enough" in these situations. Thank you for sharing your experience - it really helps to know that others have successfully navigated this same nightmare!
Just wondering if anyone knows if the threshold for receiving a W-2G form for sports betting? I won a $2,100 parlay but never got any tax form from the betting site.
For most gambling, the threshold is $600, BUT sports betting is different. For sports bets, you generally only get a W-2G if the winnings are at least $600 AND the odds were at least 300-to-1 (so basically huge parlay wins). Even without a W-2G though, you're still legally required to report ALL winnings.
This is such a timely question! I went through the exact same confusion last year as a new bettor. The gross vs net reporting requirement is definitely counterintuitive, but unfortunately that's how the IRS treats gambling income. One thing that really helped me was setting up a simple tracking system from day one this year. I created a basic spreadsheet where I log each bet - date, platform, amount wagered, outcome, and running totals of wins/losses. It takes maybe 30 seconds per bet but saves hours during tax season. Also worth noting - if you're betting regularly, you might want to consider whether itemizing deductions makes sense for you next year. Even if the standard deduction is higher this year, your situation might change. I ended up itemizing for the first time because between my gambling losses, charitable donations, and some medical expenses, it actually saved me money. The key is just staying organized and keeping good records. The platforms are getting better at providing tax documents, but having your own backup records gives you peace of mind. Good luck with your taxes!
This is really helpful advice! I'm also new to sports betting and taxes, so I'm curious - when you say you ended up itemizing, did you actually save money even though your gambling losses might have been less than the standard deduction? I'm trying to figure out if it's worth keeping track of other potential deductions like charitable donations throughout the year, or if I should just expect to take the standard deduction and eat the tax on gross winnings.
I had this exact same code appear on my 2020 transcript and totally understand the panic! Code 420 with $0.00 is actually great news - it means the IRS conducted their review and found no issues requiring changes to your return. What likely happened is your return triggered an automated correspondence examination (not a full audit) because of the higher income amount. The IRS has systems that flag returns for verification against third-party documents like W-2s and 1099s. When everything matched up perfectly, they closed it with no adjustments needed. The fact that it's been over a year since July 2023 without any CP2000 or audit notices strongly suggests this examination was completed successfully. If they had found discrepancies, you would have definitely received formal correspondence by now. You can get definitive confirmation by calling the IRS at 1-800-829-1040 and asking about the status of any examination activity on your 2021 return. But honestly, everything about your transcript indicates this was just routine verification that's already been resolved in your favor. Your mortgage application should proceed without any issues!
Thanks for sharing your experience with the same code! It's really reassuring to hear from someone who went through this exact situation. The automated correspondence examination explanation makes perfect sense - I had no idea that higher income returns routinely trigger these verification checks. Your point about the timing is spot on too. If there were real issues, I definitely would have heard something by now after more than a year. I think I got so focused on the scary "examination" language that I missed all the positive indicators like the $0.00 amount and lack of any follow-up notices. I'm going to call that IRS number tomorrow to get official confirmation, but your explanation has already put my mind at ease. It's amazing how what seemed like a potential disaster is actually just routine tax processing. Really appreciate you taking the time to explain this - it's exactly what I needed to hear!
I completely understand your anxiety about seeing code 420 on your transcript - that "Examination of tax return" language would make anyone nervous! But based on what you've described, this actually appears to be really good news. The combination of code 420 with a $0.00 amount is what tax professionals call a "no change audit" or correspondence examination. This typically means the IRS flagged your return for automated review (very common with higher-income returns like yours showing $183,265), cross-checked your reported figures against their records from employers and financial institutions, and found everything matched perfectly. The timeline also supports this - you filed in March 2023, the examination code appeared in July 2023, which is a typical processing window for these automated verifications. Since it's now been well over a year without any CP2000 notices or formal audit correspondence, the examination was almost certainly closed with no issues found. For absolute peace of mind, you can call the IRS at 1-800-829-1040 to confirm the examination status, or check your online IRS account for any messages. You might also look for code 421 on more recent transcripts, which would officially indicate the examination was closed with no changes. Your mortgage application should proceed without any problems - this looks like routine processing that's already been resolved in your favor!
Carmen Vega
I'm so sorry for your loss, Amina. Dealing with inherited financial accounts while grieving is incredibly challenging, and you're doing the right thing by trying to understand the tax implications. Everyone here has given you excellent advice about the tax treatment - you're correct that the entire HSA amount will be taxable income, but the good news is you won't face the 20% penalty since this was an inheritance distribution. One thing I'd add is to be very careful about the timing when you report this. Since your father passed in September 2021, the critical question is when you actually received and deposited that check. If it was in late 2021, you may need to file an amended 2021 return. If it was in 2022, then you'd report it on your current return. When you're in FreeTaxUSA, look for the section where you enter your 1099-SA. There should be a specific option for inherited HSA distributions or death distributions. Make absolutely sure you select this option so the software doesn't mistakenly apply the 20% penalty. If you're feeling overwhelmed by all this (which would be completely understandable), don't hesitate to consult with a tax professional who has experience with inherited accounts. Sometimes having expert guidance during such a difficult time is worth the investment. Take care of yourself through this process. You're handling a complex situation with thoughtfulness and responsibility.
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Annabel Kimball
ā¢This is such comprehensive and caring advice, Carmen. I wanted to add one small but important detail that might help @59d68eff4a7a when she's using FreeTaxUSA - sometimes the software will ask you to specify the "reason code" for the HSA distribution. For inherited HSA distributions, you'll typically want to select code "6" which indicates "Death of the account beneficiary." This helps ensure the system processes it correctly without applying penalties. Also, Amina, don't feel like you have to rush through this if you're still processing your grief. While it's important to get the tax reporting right, take your time to gather your documents and understand the process. There's no shame in asking for help from a tax professional if the details feel overwhelming - that's exactly what they're there for, especially during difficult life transitions like this. You're clearly being very responsible about handling your father's affairs properly, and that's something to be proud of during such a challenging time.
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Skylar Neal
I'm so sorry for the loss of your father, Amina. Navigating tax issues while grieving is incredibly difficult, and you're showing real strength by trying to handle this properly. The community has given you excellent advice about the tax treatment of your inherited HSA. Just to summarize the key points: you'll owe regular income tax on the full amount, but you won't face the 20% penalty that normally applies to HSA withdrawals since this was a death distribution to a beneficiary. One crucial detail that will determine your next steps is exactly when you received and deposited that check from the bank. If you received it in 2021, you'll need to report it on your 2021 tax return (which may require filing an amended return if you've already filed). If you received it in 2022, then you'd report it on your current 2022 return. When you use FreeTaxUSA to enter your 1099-SA, make sure to look for the specific option that indicates this was an inherited HSA or death distribution. This is important because it prevents the software from incorrectly applying the 20% penalty. If all of this feels overwhelming - and it absolutely would be understandable if it does - please consider reaching out to a tax professional who has experience with inherited accounts. Sometimes having expert guidance during such a personal and difficult time is worth the investment for your peace of mind. You're handling this situation with such care and responsibility. Take it one step at a time, and don't hesitate to ask for help when you need it.
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