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This thread has been incredibly eye-opening! As someone considering a similar move (dual US/EU citizen looking at relocating for family reasons), I had no idea about the complexity of inheritance tax implications that were just discussed. One thing I wanted to add based on my research: make sure you understand Spain's "imputed income" rules for foreign assets. Even if you don't sell investments or receive dividends, Spain can impute a minimum return on your foreign financial assets and tax you on that deemed income. This is separate from wealth tax and can create tax liability even when you haven't actually received any income from those assets. Also, regarding the banking challenges mentioned earlier - consider opening your Spanish accounts before you move and while you're still primarily US-resident. Some people have found it easier to establish banking relationships during short visits rather than trying to do everything after becoming a Spanish resident. The documentation everyone's recommending is crucial, but don't forget to keep records of your Spanish expenses and local ties too. Things like local gym memberships, Spanish mobile phone contracts, and regular purchases can help demonstrate genuine residence versus just being a "tax tourist." Has anyone dealt with how Spanish authorities view US retirement accounts like 401(k)s and IRAs? I've heard conflicting information about whether these are treated as transparent for Spanish tax purposes or if there are special rules that apply.

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Caden Turner

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Great addition about the imputed income rules - that's definitely something that catches people off guard! The deemed return calculation can create tax liability even when your investments are actually losing money, which feels particularly unfair. Your point about opening Spanish bank accounts before moving is really smart. I've heard from others that Spanish banks are much more willing to work with you when you're clearly just visiting versus when you show up as a new resident needing immediate banking services. Regarding US retirement accounts, this is where things get really messy. Spain generally doesn't recognize the tax-deferred status of 401(k)s and IRAs the way the US does. They often treat these as regular investment accounts for Spanish tax purposes, which means: 1) Any growth in the account might be subject to Spanish tax annually (even if you don't withdraw) 2) When you do take distributions, Spain might not give you credit for the fact that you already paid Spanish tax on the growth 3) Required Minimum Distributions (RMDs) can push you into higher Spanish tax brackets unexpectedly The interaction between US retirement account rules and Spanish tax treatment is one of those areas where you really need professional advice specific to your situation. Some people end up restructuring their retirement savings strategy entirely before moving to avoid these complications. Have you looked into whether your target EU country has any specific treaty provisions that treat US retirement accounts more favorably than Spain does?

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This has been an incredibly informative thread! I'm in a somewhat similar situation as a dual US/Canadian citizen considering a move to Spain, and reading through all these responses has really highlighted how complex international tax planning can be. One aspect I haven't seen mentioned yet is the potential impact on your US Social Security benefits. If you become a Spanish tax resident, you'll need to understand how Spain taxes US Social Security payments (they're generally taxable in Spain) and whether you can claim treaty benefits. This becomes especially important if you're planning to retire in Spain eventually. Also, don't forget about state-level considerations beyond just establishing non-residency. Some US states have "throwback" rules for trust income or other complex provisions that could affect you even after you move abroad. Since you mentioned you're currently in Texas, you're probably in good shape, but it's worth confirming with a professional. The banking advice about opening accounts before you move is spot-on. I'd also suggest researching Spanish mortgage rules if you ever plan to buy property there. Spanish banks often have very different lending criteria for foreign income, and your US employment situation might not qualify for traditional Spanish mortgages. Has anyone dealt with Spanish tax treatment of US stock options or RSUs? With tech companies often using equity compensation, this could be another complication for the original poster's situation. This thread really demonstrates why international tax planning requires specialized expertise - there are so many interconnected issues that most general tax preparers wouldn't even know to ask about!

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Ethan Davis

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In case it helps anyone, I found this explanation on Wheaton Precious Metals' investor FAQ page that specifically addresses taxation. It confirms they're a corporation and dividends/capital gains are taxed accordingly. They even mention that their non-direct exposure to physical metals is one reason some investors prefer them over physical gold or ETFs.

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Yuki Tanaka

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Thanks for sharing! Do you know if they issue a special tax form at the end of the year or is it just reported on the standard 1099-DIV like other stocks?

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Carmen Vega

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WPM and other streaming companies issue standard 1099-DIV forms just like any other publicly traded stock. Nothing special about their tax reporting - you'll get the same forms you'd receive from owning Apple or Microsoft. The dividends are reported in the appropriate boxes for qualified dividends, and any capital gains/losses from selling shares are reported on your regular 1099-B from your broker. Makes tax time much simpler compared to dealing with precious metals ETFs that sometimes have more complex reporting requirements.

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Ezra Collins

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Just wanted to add that the distinction between these investment types becomes really important when you're doing tax-loss harvesting. Since royalty stocks like WPM are taxed as regular stocks, you can harvest losses against other stock gains at the more favorable capital gains rates. But if you're holding physical gold or gold ETFs that are taxed as collectibles, those losses can only offset collectible gains first before being applied to regular capital gains. This is something I learned the hard way when I was trying to optimize my tax situation last year. I had losses on some gold ETFs that I couldn't use as efficiently as I thought because of the collectible classification. The streaming stocks give you much more flexibility for tax planning strategies.

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Luca Russo

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That's a really valuable point about tax-loss harvesting that I hadn't considered! I'm relatively new to precious metals investing and have been building positions in both physical gold and streaming stocks like WPM without thinking about the tax optimization strategies. So if I understand correctly, losses from my streaming stocks can offset gains from any of my regular stock positions, but losses from gold ETFs can only efficiently offset gains from other collectibles first? That definitely makes the streaming companies more attractive from a portfolio management perspective, especially since I do a lot of rebalancing throughout the year. Do you have any recommendations for resources to learn more about these tax-loss harvesting strategies with different asset classes? I want to make sure I'm not missing other optimization opportunities.

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Malik Thomas

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I've been using Venmo for direct deposits for a while now and haven't had major issues, but definitely echo what others said about checking your limits. One thing I learned the hard way - make sure you enable the "Direct Deposit" feature in your Venmo settings first. It's not automatically on even if your account is verified. Also, keep screenshots of your routing/account info just in case you need to reference it later. The IRS customer service can verify if they have the right info on file if you're worried about it.

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AaliyahAli

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Great tip about enabling the Direct Deposit feature! I didn't know that was separate from account verification. Just checked mine and it wasn't turned on šŸ˜… Thanks for saving me a potential headache! Also smart about the screenshots - definitely doing that now.

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Just want to add another perspective here - I've done Venmo direct deposit for my refund twice now and it's worked great both times. One year was about $2800 and last year was $4200, no issues with freezing or limits. The key things that helped me: 1) Made sure my legal name on my tax return exactly matched what's on my Venmo account, 2) Double and triple checked those routing/account numbers, and 3) Like others mentioned, had the direct deposit feature enabled beforehand. The money showed up in my Venmo balance within the same timeframe the IRS estimated. Just be ready to transfer it out to a real bank account pretty quickly if you want to use it for bigger purchases since not everywhere takes Venmo directly!

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This is super reassuring to hear! I was getting worried about all the potential issues people mentioned, but knowing you've done it twice successfully with amounts in that range makes me feel way better. The tip about transferring it out quickly is smart too - I was planning to keep it in Venmo but you're right that having it in a regular bank account gives more options. Thanks for sharing your experience!

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Great question about the Series I bonds strategy! One additional consideration for your situation - since you're a financial advisor, you might want to think about how having significant business assets in I bonds could impact your professional liability insurance or regulatory requirements. Some compliance frameworks have specific rules about where business funds can be invested. Also, regarding the tax efficiency piece - you might consider timing the dissolution strategically. If you expect to be in a lower tax bracket in a future year (perhaps due to retirement or reduced income), it could make sense to delay the dissolution until then, especially given that any accumulated interest and potential capital gains will flow through to your personal return. One more thought on the payroll tax question - while the interest income and capital gains from liquidation won't be subject to self-employment tax, make sure you're current on reasonable compensation requirements for S corp owners who work in the business. The IRS scrutinizes this closely for service-based S corporations like financial advisory practices.

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Harper Hill

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Really excellent points about the compliance considerations for financial advisors! I hadn't thought about how business fund investments might interact with professional liability or regulatory requirements. The timing strategy you mentioned is particularly interesting - I'm actually planning to semi-retire in about 3 years and expect my income to drop significantly then. Would it make sense to keep the S corp running minimally until then, or are there ongoing compliance costs that might outweigh the tax savings? Also, you're absolutely right about the reasonable compensation issue. I've been taking a modest salary but wonder if the IRS might question it given the cash reserves I'm building up. Do you have any guidance on what constitutes "reasonable" for a solo financial advisor S corp?

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Ev Luca

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One approach to consider is distributing some of the accumulated cash to yourself before closing the S corp, rather than waiting until final dissolution. Since you've already paid taxes on the retained earnings through your K-1s over the years, distributions up to your basis would be tax-free to you personally. This could be particularly strategic if you're planning to invest in I bonds anyway - you could take distributions now, invest in I bonds personally, and reduce the amount of assets that need to be liquidated when you eventually close the business. The interest on personally-owned I bonds would still be taxable to you, but you'd avoid the complexity of having investment assets tied up in the corporate dissolution process. Just make sure to track your basis carefully and consider whether maintaining some cash reserves in the business is still prudent for operational needs. You might also want to model out the tax impact of different distribution timing scenarios, especially if your income varies significantly from year to year in your advisory practice.

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Sarah Jones

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This is a really smart strategy that I hadn't considered! Taking distributions now rather than waiting for dissolution could definitely simplify things. I'm curious though - how do you accurately track basis adjustments over multiple years? I've been keeping records, but I'm worried I might have missed some adjustments along the way, especially for things like health insurance premiums or other pass-through items that affect basis. Also, would taking larger distributions now potentially trigger any red flags with the IRS, or is it pretty standard for S corp owners to distribute retained earnings periodically rather than all at once during dissolution?

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Isaiah Cross

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anybody know if AOTC is better than the Lifetime Learning Credit? my tax guy said AOTC is usually better but depends on your situation

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Esteban Tate

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AOTC is almost always better than the Lifetime Learning Credit if you qualify for both. AOTC gives up to $2,500 with $1,000 being refundable, while Lifetime Learning only gives up to $2,000 and none is refundable. AOTC is only for the first 4 years of undergraduate education though, while Lifetime Learning has no limit on years and can be used for graduate school or professional courses. So if you're beyond your 4th year or in grad school, Lifetime Learning would be your only option between those two credits.

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Isaiah Cross

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thx that makes sense. im still in undergrad so AOTC sounds better for me

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Just wanted to add a few key points that might help others in similar situations: 1. The AOTC requires you to be enrolled at least half-time in a degree program, while the Tuition and Fees Deduction doesn't have this requirement. 2. If you receive a refund from your school for any reason (dropped classes, etc.), you need to reduce your qualified expenses by that amount or potentially pay back part of the credit. 3. Keep ALL your receipts and documentation - not just the 1098-T. The IRS can audit education credits, and you'll need proof of what you actually paid and when. 4. If you're planning to continue school beyond 4 years total (including any previous colleges), start thinking about whether to save some AOTC eligibility for later years when your expenses might be higher. With your income level and being in year 3, the AOTC is definitely your best bet. Just make sure you're tracking everything properly for future years!

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This is really helpful info! I'm new to filing taxes with education expenses and wasn't aware of the half-time enrollment requirement for AOTC. Does that mean if I took summer classes that were less than half-time, those expenses wouldn't qualify for the AOTC but could still be used for the Tuition and Fees Deduction? Also, when you mention saving AOTC eligibility for later years - can you choose not to claim it in a year when you have qualified expenses, or once you have qualifying expenses do you have to claim it?

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