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How to handle Teen 1099-NEC for high school summer job: Filing options for dependents

I'm looking for some tax advice regarding my teenage son's summer job earnings. My family situation is: Married Filing Jointly (wife and I are both 47) Two kids (son 16, daughter 10) I'm self-employed with my own small business My wife works a regular W-2 job We've always filed as Married Filing Jointly using FreeTaxUSA software with no issues. However, this year my son (16) received a 1099-NEC for $1,125 from his summer landscaping job. The company didn't withhold any Federal or State taxes at all. This is his first ever income from working. I've got several questions about how to handle this: 1) Can I include my son's (16) 1099-NEC income on my joint tax return with my wife? 2) Does my son need to file his own separate tax return for this 1099-NEC income? 3) Can I still claim him as my dependent on our MFJ return if he has this income? 4) If he does need to file his own taxes, what should I be aware of? Any special considerations? Any help is really appreciated - I want to make sure we do this right for 2024 taxes!

Just want to add - my son's first 1099-NEC came in at around $900 last year too and I checked with my CPA. If the 1099-NEC is the ONLY income they have, you might qualify to use Form 8814 to report it on your return instead of filing separately. But there are income limits and other restrictions.

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That's for unearned income (like dividends and interest) only. Form 8814 doesn't work for earned income like 1099-NEC. Your CPA gave you incorrect information.

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Adding to the great advice here - one thing that caught me off guard with my daughter's first 1099-NEC was the quarterly estimated tax payments for the following year. If your son continues working and expects to earn more than $1,000 in net self-employment income next year, he'll need to start making quarterly payments. Also, consider opening a separate savings account for him to set aside about 25-30% of his earnings for taxes. At 16, this is a perfect time to teach him about tax planning and budgeting. My daughter now automatically transfers a portion of every payment she receives into her "tax account" - it's become a great habit that will serve her well as she gets older. The self-employment tax can be a shock for teens who aren't used to seeing money come out of their paychecks, so preparing him for that reality early is helpful!

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What's the threshold for quarterly payments with Self employment taxes for inconsistent income?

I'm trying to figure out the whole self employment taxes situation. I've been doing some side gig work that doesn't bring in much - just a few hundred dollars annually. So far I've stayed under $800 each year. At what point am I required to start making quarterly tax payments to the IRS? The tricky part is my income is really inconsistent - some months I might make $200, then nothing for several months. Does that inconsistency affect when/if I need to make quarterly payments? I don't want to suddenly find out I was supposed to be doing something I wasn't! Thanks for any help understanding this!

Sometimes I've found that withholding a bit extra from my W-2 job is easier than dealing with quarterly payments for small self-employment income. You can file a new W-4 with your employer and just add an additional amount to be withheld from each paycheck. Way less paperwork than tracking and submitting quarterlies.

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This is genius! How much extra should you withhold though? Is there some formula to figure out how much self-employment tax you'll owe?

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For a rough estimate, take your expected annual self-employment income and multiply by about 15% for self-employment tax, then add whatever your marginal income tax rate is (probably 10-12% if your income is relatively low). So maybe 25-30% total. If you're making $800 a year in self-employment income, that's roughly $200-240 in additional tax. You could just have an extra $20 withheld from your paycheck each month to cover it. Much easier than filing quarterly payments!

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Just wanted to add another perspective for anyone in a similar situation - if your side gig income is truly inconsistent like yours, consider keeping a simple monthly tracking spreadsheet. I learned this the hard way when my freelance writing income jumped unexpectedly one quarter and I suddenly owed way more than expected. What I do now is track my monthly self-employment income and multiply by 15.3% (self-employment tax rate) plus my marginal tax rate to estimate what I should be setting aside. If I hit the point where I'm on track to owe more than $1,000 for the year, I either make a quarterly payment or increase my W-2 withholding like others mentioned. The inconsistency actually works in your favor right now since you're staying under the thresholds, but having a system in place will save you stress if your income grows. Better to be prepared than scrambling to catch up on payments later!

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I owe over $5,800 in Federal Income Tax at 22 due to accidentally filing exempt on my W4, what can I do?

I'm pretty inexperienced with taxes and could really use some help. I'm in Oregon and started a job with a tech company last March (2024). I just realized something horrifying when I was putting together documents for a car loan application - I haven't been paying ANY federal income tax since I started! Somehow on my W4, I ended up checking the "exempt" box in that section below where you mark single or married. I swear I don't remember ever doing this, and I've talked to my older sister and a friend who both said this isn't something that would happen automatically. The worst part is nobody from payroll or HR ever mentioned anything to me about it. I admit I totally screwed up by never checking my paystubs (been dealing with some anxiety/depression issues), but now I'm completely panicking because I calculated that I'll owe around $5,800 to the IRS. This couldn't come at a worse time - I just put down a deposit on a new apartment, finished an intensive outpatient program for my mental health, and was already struggling financially. Is there anything I can do here? Payment plans? Some kind of first-time forgiveness? I'm honestly terrified and feeling really stupid for letting this happen. Any advice would be so appreciated!

When I started my first "real" job after college, I accidentally marked exempt on my W4 too. It's an easy mistake to make! The way I handled it was to immediately fix my W4 with HR and then have extra withholding taken out for the rest of the year to try to catch up. If you can afford it, you could increase your withholding for the remainder of 2025 to offset some of what you'll owe. On your W4, there's a line that lets you specify additional withholding from each paycheck. This won't solve the whole problem, but it might reduce the amount you need to pay when you file.

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How much extra should they withhold though? Is there some calculator to figure out the right amount to catch up? And does doing this extra withholding help avoid penalties at all?

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The IRS has a Tax Withholding Estimator on their website that can help calculate how much extra you should withhold to catch up. You enter your income, current withholding, and how much you've already earned this year, and it suggests an amount for each remaining paycheck. Increasing your withholding now can help reduce or even eliminate underpayment penalties, but it depends on your specific situation. The IRS generally waives penalties if you've paid at least 90% of your tax liability through withholding by the end of the year, or 100% of last year's tax (110% if your income is over a certain threshold). So catching up on withholding is definitely worth doing if you can afford it.

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Is anyone going to mention that the employer is partially at fault here? I work in HR and we're supposed to verify that people claiming exempt actually qualified for exempt status the previous year. Like if you had a tax liability last year, you technically can't claim exempt this year. There are specific requirements for claiming exempt status.

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Really? I didn't know employers had any responsibility for this. I always thought it was entirely on the employee to fill out their W4 correctly and the company just processes whatever you put down.

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@Sofia Gutierrez That s'really interesting - I had no idea employers were supposed to verify exempt status! So does this mean OP might have some recourse with their employer? Like could the company have caught this earlier and prevented the whole situation? I m'wondering if this is something worth bringing up with HR when they fix their W4, or if it would just create unnecessary drama at work.

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Claimed Child Care Credit without receipts - Will IRS verify?

I claimed the child and dependent care credit on my taxes but don't have all my daycare receipts. Anyone know how likely it is the IRS will actually verify these? Getting nervous about an audit.

lol the irs is such a clown show these days. theyre so backed up they probably wont even look at ur return til 2027 ๐Ÿคก

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fr fr they still processing my 2021 return ๐Ÿ’€

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Just went through something similar last year. The IRS did request documentation for my child care credit during correspondence audit. Even without original receipts, I was able to piece together proof using bank statements, credit card records, and a signed statement from my daycare provider confirming the amounts and dates. Also had to provide Form W-10 info for the provider. It was stressful but manageable if you can show a clear payment trail. The key is being proactive about gathering alternative documentation now.

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Can I deduct my MBA classes as a business expense for my rental property income?

I've been managing a couple rental properties for about 3 years now, nothing huge just 2 duplexes. I recently enrolled in a part-time MBA program that includes some really relevant courses like Commercial Real Estate Analysis and Small Business Accounting & Finance. Since I'm running these rental properties as a business and paying taxes on the income, I'm wondering if I can deduct some of these educational expenses on my tax return? The courses seem directly related to my landlord activities and would help me manage my properties better. Has anyone successfully deducted higher education costs against their rental income? The tuition isn't cheap (about $15,000 per semester) so being able to write off even a portion would be really helpful. Thanks for any advice!

My friend tried deducting his real estate courses last year and got audited! The IRS disallowed the deduction because they said his education was preparing him for a "new trade or business" since he only owned one rental property at the time. Just be careful and document everything!!

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That seems excessive for the IRS to audit over education expenses. Was he claiming other questionable deductions too? I've been deducting relevant continuing education for years with no issues.

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The key distinction that tripped up your friend's situation is really important for everyone to understand. The IRS looks at whether you're already operating as a business versus preparing to enter a new business. With just one rental property, it can be harder to establish that you're already running a legitimate rental business operation. In your case with 2 duplexes over 3 years, you have a much stronger position to argue you're already in the rental business and the MBA courses are maintaining/improving existing skills. The fact that you're already paying taxes on rental income and have multiple properties helps establish this as an ongoing business activity. However, I'd still recommend being very conservative and only claiming the portions of courses that directly relate to your current landlord activities. Document how specific course modules connect to tasks you already perform - like tenant screening, property maintenance planning, financial analysis of your existing properties, etc. Avoid claiming anything that looks like it's preparing you for real estate development, commercial property acquisition, or other activities you're not currently doing.

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