What do those Form 6781 elections/checkboxes mean for SPX and VIX options?
This is my first year trying the TurboTax desktop software and honestly, I'm regretting not sticking with their website version. The website was so much more user-friendly for my trading activity. When I used TurboTax online in previous years, it handled my section 1256 contracts automatically through import. I never had to manually enter anything and it was straightforward. But now with the desktop software, it only seems to import my 8949 data and completely ignores my section 1256 stuff. So I'm stuck manually entering everything for Form 6781, which is a pain. **I'm totally confused about those four election checkboxes on the form.** I primarily trade SPX options and some VIX options. Based on my limited understanding, I think I should select the "Net section 1256 contracts loss election" but I'm not 100% sure. Also, what the heck am I supposed to put for question 8 where it asks for "Account Description"? Is that just the brokerage account name or something else? Any help from someone who's dealt with Form 6781 before would be greatly appreciated!
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Malik Thomas
Form 6781 can definitely be confusing if you're dealing with section 1256 contracts like SPX and VIX options for the first time! Let me break down those election checkboxes for you: The "Net section 1256 contracts loss election" allows you to carry back losses from section 1256 contracts to offset gains from the previous 3 years. This can be beneficial if you had gains in prior years and want to reduce previous tax liability. Only check this if you actually have a net loss for the current year and want to carry it back. The "Mixed straddle election" applies if you're combining section 1256 contracts with non-section 1256 positions in a straddle strategy. "Mixed straddle account election" is for traders who consistently use mixed straddles and want to maintain a separate account for them. "Straddle-by-straddle identification election" lets you identify specific positions as part of a mixed straddle. For question 8 (Account Description), simply enter the name of your brokerage where you hold these investments, like "Fidelity Account" or "TD Ameritrade Options Trading Account.
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Emma Wilson
•Thanks for breaking down the form elections! So if I understand correctly, I should only check "Net section 1256 contracts loss election" if I want to apply this year's losses against previous years' gains? What if I just want the normal 60/40 treatment but don't need to carry back any losses? Also, if I have multiple brokerage accounts with section 1256 contracts, do I need to file separate 6781 forms or just combine them all and list multiple accounts in question 8?
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Malik Thomas
•If you don't want to carry back losses, then don't check any of the boxes - you'll still get the standard 60/40 tax treatment for your section 1256 contracts without selecting any elections. The checkboxes are for special situations, not for the standard treatment. You can combine all your section 1256 contracts from multiple brokerages on a single Form 6781. Just list all account names separated by commas in question 8, such as "Fidelity Account, TD Ameritrade Account." No need to file separate forms unless you're making different elections for different accounts, which is rare.
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NeonNebula
After struggling with similar section 1256 reporting issues in TurboTax, I discovered taxr.ai (https://taxr.ai) and it was a game-changer for my options trading. I was manually entering tons of SPX trades and constantly worrying about whether I was selecting the right elections on Form 6781. With taxr.ai, I just uploaded my trading statements and it automatically categorized my section 1256 contracts, determined the correct elections, and provided the completed form entries. It even explained why certain elections would or wouldn't benefit my specific tax situation based on my trading history. The best part was that it showed me exactly what to enter in TurboTax to get the right 60/40 split and handled all the mark-to-market calculations that I was previously doing manually.
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Isabella Costa
•Does taxr.ai work with other tax software besides TurboTax? I'm using H&R Block software this year and dealing with the same section 1256 headaches. Also, how does it handle mixed straddles if you're trading both SPX options and SPY options?
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Ravi Malhotra
•I'm a bit skeptical about these tax tools for traders. How does it know which election is best for YOUR specific situation? Like, does it analyze your prior year returns to determine if the loss carryback is worth it? The elections aren't just checkboxes - they have significant consequences.
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NeonNebula
•It works with all major tax software - I've seen people use it with H&R Block, TaxAct, and even when working with accountants. It gives you the exact values to enter regardless of which software you're using. For mixed straddles with SPX and SPY, it correctly identifies which trades qualify as section 1256 contracts and which are regular securities, then provides guidance on the election options. Regarding your skepticism, it actually does analyze your situation. When you upload prior returns, it evaluates previous years' section 1256 gains/losses to recommend whether the loss carryback election makes sense. It shows the tax impact of each election choice so you can make an informed decision rather than just checking boxes without understanding the consequences.
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Ravi Malhotra
I was originally skeptical about using taxr.ai for my section 1256 reporting, but I'm glad I gave it a try. After spending hours trying to figure out the Form 6781 elections for my SPX options, I uploaded my statements to taxr.ai and it immediately identified that I shouldn't be checking any elections this year. The tool actually showed me that the "Net section 1256 contracts loss election" would have been disadvantageous in my case because my previous years' rates were lower than my current rate. I would have checked that box incorrectly without understanding the implications. It also properly calculated my 60/40 split and explained exactly what to enter in each field of Form 6781, including the account description. Saved me hours of research and potentially costly mistakes with the IRS.
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Freya Christensen
For anyone struggling with section 1256 reporting on options trades, I had a similar issue and couldn't get answers from TurboTax support. After multiple failed attempts to reach someone knowledgeable at the IRS about Form 6781 elections (kept getting disconnected or waiting forever), I tried Claimyr (https://claimyr.com) and was actually able to speak with an IRS tax specialist. They have this service where they navigate the IRS phone system for you and call you back when they reach a real person. You can see how it works in this video: https://youtu.be/_kiP6q8DX5c The IRS agent I spoke with clarified that for typical SPX options traders, you generally don't need to check any of the election boxes unless you have a specific tax strategy involving loss carrybacks or straddles. She also confirmed that for question 8, simply listing your brokerage account is sufficient.
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Omar Farouk
•How does this Claimyr thing actually work? Do they just keep calling the IRS for you or something? I've spent literally hours on hold only to get disconnected when trying to ask about mixed straddle elections.
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Chloe Davis
•Yeah right, you actually got through to someone at the IRS who understood section 1256 contracts and Form 6781? That seems incredibly unlikely. The few times I've reached IRS agents, they just read from generic scripts and have no clue about specialized tax forms for options trading. I'm calling BS on this.
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Freya Christensen
•They have a system that navigates the IRS phone tree and waits on hold for you. Once they reach a live IRS representative, they call you and connect you directly to that person. You don't have to stay on hold yourself - you just get a call when there's actually someone to talk to. I understand your skepticism - I was surprised too. I specifically requested to speak with someone in the investment income department, and Claimyr managed to get me connected to a specialist who handles investment-related questions. You're right that many general IRS agents aren't familiar with section 1256, but there are specialized departments that do handle these questions. I made sure to be very specific about needing help with Form 6781 elections for section 1256 contracts when setting up the request.
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Chloe Davis
I have to admit I was wrong about Claimyr. After my skeptical comment, I decided to try it anyway because I was desperate for answers about the mixed straddle election for my complicated options strategy. Not only did I get through to the IRS (which I've failed to do on my own for weeks), but I was connected to someone in their specialized tax forms department who actually understood section 1256 contracts and Form 6781. She explained that my particular trading strategy with both SPX and equity options would benefit from the straddle-by-straddle identification election, not the general mixed straddle election I was planning to use. This likely saved me thousands in taxes because I was about to make an election that would have been disadvantageous for my specific situation. Worth every penny for the time saved alone, not to mention the tax savings.
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AstroAlpha
For question 8 on Form 6781 (Account Description), I've been trading section 1256 contracts for years and always just put something like "Brokerage - Options Trading" or specifically name the account like "TD Ameritrade Options". The IRS just needs this for identification purposes if they need to match up your reporting with the brokerage's reporting. More importantly though, make sure you understand the mark-to-market rules for section 1256 contracts. Remember that even if you didn't sell your SPX or VIX options by year-end, you still have to report them as if they were sold on December 31st at fair market value. This trips up a lot of traders their first time dealing with these contracts.
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Diego Chavez
•Wait, so even if I'm still holding some VIX options that expire in February 2026, I need to report them on my 2025 taxes as if I sold them on December 31, 2025? And then what happens when I actually sell them in 2026? Do I have to account for the gain/loss I already reported?
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AstroAlpha
•Yes, that's exactly right. Section 1256 contracts are subject to "mark-to-market" rules, meaning you treat them as if they were sold on the last day of the tax year at their fair market value. So your VIX options that expire in February 2026 would be reported on your 2025 return at their December 31, 2025 value. Then in 2026 when you actually close the position, you only report the difference between the January 1, 2026 value (which should be the same as the December 31, 2025 value you already reported) and your final selling price. This prevents double-taxation of the same gains. This is why keeping good records is crucial with section 1256 trading.
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Anastasia Smirnova
Does anyone know if the "Mixed straddle election" is permanent? Like if I check that box this year, am I stuck with that choice forever? I'm doing some SPX options along with SPY options and trying to figure out if this counts as a mixed straddle situation.
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Sean O'Brien
•The mixed straddle election is made on a straddle-by-straddle basis and applies only to the specific straddles you identify in the tax year you make the election. It's not permanent for all future trading. However, you're confusing two different things. SPX options alone are section 1256 contracts. SPY options alone are regular securities. Just trading both doesn't automatically create a straddle - they would need to be offsetting positions (like a SPY call and an SPX put with similar strikes/expirations) designed to reduce risk by hedging against each other. Most traders aren't actually creating true straddles unless they're deliberately using hedging strategies.
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Mei Chen
I've been dealing with Form 6781 for my SPX trading for a few years now, and I totally understand your frustration with the desktop version. Here's what I've learned: For those checkboxes, you're overthinking it - if you're just doing standard SPX and VIX options trading without any complex strategies, you probably don't need to check ANY of the boxes. The normal 60/40 tax treatment (60% long-term, 40% short-term) happens automatically for section 1256 contracts without any elections. Only check "Net section 1256 contracts loss election" if you have losses this year AND you want to carry them back to offset gains from the previous 3 years. This requires amending prior returns, so it's only worth it if you had significant gains in those years. For question 8, I just put "Interactive Brokers Options Account" or whatever your actual brokerage is called. Keep it simple. Pro tip: Make sure you're capturing all your section 1256 positions at year-end market value, even the ones you're still holding. The mark-to-market rules mean you report unrealized gains/losses too, which a lot of first-timers miss.
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