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846 Code Appeared 1/7/2025 After Amended Return & Refund Freeze - How Long For Paper Check Delivery?

After waiting forever I finally got an 846 refund issued code on my transcript dated 01-07-2025! Since I didn't provide direct deposit info they're mailing a check. Anyone know how long it typically takes to get the check in the mail after the 846 date shows up? Here's what my transcript shows: 766 Credit to your account - 04-16-2024 767 Reduced or removed credit to your account - 04-16-2024 764 Earned income credit - 04-16-2024 960 Appointed representative - 10-02-2024 971 Amended tax return or claim forwarded for processing - 11-08-2024 977 Amended return filed - 11-08-2024 33277-718-56733-4 767 Reduced or removed credit to your account - 04-16-2024 766 Credit to your account - 04-16-2024 764 Earned income credit - 04-16-2024 291 Reduced or removed prior tax assessed - 12-31-2024 18254-746-07771-4 290 Additional tax assessed - 01-07-2025 18254-746-07772-4 811 Removed refund freeze - 12-21-2024 846 Refund issued - 01-07-2025 776 Interest credited to your account - 01-14-2025 I'm especially excited to see that 811 code (Removed refund freeze) from 12-21-2024 followed by the 846 (Refund issued) on 01-07-2025. They're even giving me interest according to that 776 code dated 01-14-2025! The whole process has been a nightmare with my amended return from November and all these different codes. I'm just anxious to know when I'll actually see this check in my mailbox since I didn't set up direct deposit.

Alice Pierce

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That's amazing news about finally getting your 846 code! I totally understand the relief you must be feeling after dealing with an amended return and refund freeze for so long. From what I've seen in this community, paper checks typically take 5-7 business days to arrive after the 846 date appears on your transcript. Since yours is dated 01-07-2025, you should hopefully see it by this Friday or early next week. The sequence of codes you have looks really good - that 811 "refund freeze removed" on 12-21 followed by the 846 on 01-07 shows everything is finally processing properly through the system. And getting interest with that 776 code is a nice bonus after all the waiting you've been through! I'd definitely recommend signing up for USPS Informed Delivery if you haven't already - you'll get an email each morning with photos of your incoming mail so you'll know exactly when that check is on its way to your mailbox. Fingers crossed it arrives soon! šŸ¤ž

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AstroAlpha

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Congrats on finally getting that 846 code! What a relief after all you've been through with the amended return and refund freeze. Based on what I've seen here, paper checks typically arrive 5-7 business days after the 846 date. Since yours shows 01-07-2025, you should hopefully see it by this Friday or early next week. That progression from 811 "refund freeze removed" on 12-21 to 846 on 01-07 is exactly what you want to see - everything's finally moving! And getting interest with that 776 code is awesome after all the delays. Definitely set up USPS Informed Delivery if you haven't already so you can track when it's actually coming to your mailbox. Keep us posted! šŸ¤ž

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Another option nobody mentioned is to reach out to your local Congressional representative's office. I had a similar issue last year that I couldn't resolve after months of trying, and my Congressman's office has staff specifically for helping constituents with federal agency issues. They contacted the IRS on my behalf and got everything resolved within 2 weeks. Their offices deal with the IRS all the time.

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This actually works! My sister had an issue with a refund that was stuck for months, and our Representative's office got it resolved when nothing else worked. They have special channels to contact government agencies.

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Ava Thompson

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Thank you all for the incredibly helpful suggestions! I didn't even think about reaching out to my Congressional rep's office - that's brilliant. Going to try the early morning call trick tomorrow, and if that doesn't work I'll look into both the services mentioned. Just knowing there are actual options gives me hope I can get this fixed before the filing deadline!

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I work as a tax preparer and deal with IRS phone issues regularly. Here's a pro tip that works about 70% of the time: call the IRS business line at 1-800-829-4933 instead of the individual taxpayer line. Even though you're calling about a personal tax issue, they often have shorter wait times and can transfer you to the right department once you explain your situation. Also, when you do get through (whether using one of the services mentioned or calling directly), make sure you have your Social Security number, the exact amount of the payment, the date you made it, and your confirmation number ready. The agent will need all of this to locate and transfer your payment. Write down the representative's ID number and get a confirmation number for the transfer - this will save you if you need to call back for any reason. One more thing - if your payment was made within the last 90 days, they can usually fix it with a simple account adjustment. If it was longer ago, it might require additional paperwork, so timing matters here.

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This is really helpful advice, especially about having all the documentation ready! Quick question - when you call the business line, do you just explain that you have a payment issue right away, or do you need to navigate through their automated system first? I'm worried they'll just transfer me back to the regular taxpayer line if I mention it's a personal tax matter.

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Has anyone using TurboTax had issues with how it calculates NIIT when you have capital loss carryforwards? Mine seemed to handle it strangely last year and I'm wondering if I need to switch to a different software.

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I actually switched from TurboTax to H&R Block's premium online version specifically because of this issue. TurboTax wasn't clearly showing me how my capital loss carryforwards were being applied to my NIIT calculation, but H&R Block has a much clearer worksheet that breaks it down.

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I've been dealing with a similar situation and wanted to share what I learned from my tax preparer. One thing that might help is understanding that Form 8960 (the NIIT form) has its own separate calculation for net investment income that doesn't mirror your Schedule D exactly. The key insight for me was realizing that while your capital loss carryforward reduces your net capital gain to zero for NIIT purposes (which is great), you still need to be careful about other investment income like dividends, interest, or rental income that might push you over the NIIT threshold. Also, make sure you're considering the modified adjusted gross income (MAGI) thresholds - $200K for single filers, $250K for married filing jointly. Even if your net investment income is low due to the loss carryforwards, you might still owe NIIT if your overall income exceeds these thresholds. Have you calculated whether you'll be above the MAGI threshold this year? That's really the first step in determining if NIIT will even apply to your situation.

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That's a really helpful breakdown, especially about Form 8960 having its own calculation! I hadn't fully grasped that the NIIT form doesn't just mirror Schedule D. Your point about the MAGI thresholds is crucial too. In my case, even though my capital gains will be fully offset by the carryforward losses, I do have some dividend income and my salary puts me right around the $200K threshold for single filers. So I definitely need to run those numbers carefully. Thanks for mentioning that - it's easy to get focused on just the capital loss piece and forget about the bigger MAGI picture. Do you know if there are any strategies to keep MAGI below the threshold if you're close, or is it pretty much just what it is based on your income sources?

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Savannah Vin

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I've been through the Form 6781 maze myself and wanted to add a few practical tips that might help you with your SPX/SPY options situation. First, make sure you're keeping detailed records of when you opened and closed each leg of your straddles. The IRS requires you to identify which positions form each straddle, and you'll need the exact dates and amounts for Form 6781. I use a simple spreadsheet to track this. For your SPX options specifically, remember that they're marked-to-market at year-end even if you haven't closed them, so you'll need to report any unrealized gains/losses on positions you're still holding. This is different from your SPY options which are only reported when you actually close them. One thing that caught me off guard my first year: if you have any straddle positions still open at year-end, you need to calculate the "unrecognized gain" for Part III of Form 6781. This is basically the paper profit on the winning leg of any straddle where you took a loss on the other leg. Also, since you mentioned using TurboTax, make sure you're using the Premier version - the basic version doesn't handle Form 6781 properly. Even then, you might need to manually override some of the calculations if you have complex mixed straddle situations.

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This is really helpful, especially the point about tracking open and close dates! I'm curious about the mark-to-market requirement for SPX options - does this mean I need to calculate the fair market value of any SPX positions I'm holding on December 31st? And if so, how do I determine that value? Do I use the closing price from the last trading day of the year, or is there a specific method the IRS requires for valuing these positions?

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Caleb Stark

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Yes, exactly! For SPX options (Section 1256 contracts), you need to mark them to market as of December 31st. You'll use the closing prices from the last trading day of the year to determine fair market value. The IRS generally accepts using the official closing prices published by the exchanges. For SPX options, you'd typically use the closing bid-ask midpoint or the last traded price if it's within the bid-ask spread. Most brokers will actually provide this information on your year-end tax documents - look for Form 1099-B which should show both your realized gains/losses and any unrealized gains/losses from open Section 1256 positions. If you're calculating it manually, make sure you're consistent in your valuation method. The key is using a reasonable method that reflects fair market value at year-end. Just document which method you used in case the IRS has questions later. This mark-to-market treatment is actually one of the advantages of SPX options - you get to recognize losses immediately at year-end even if the position is still open, unlike regular equity options where you have to wait until you actually close the position.

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Alicia Stern

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Great discussion everyone! As someone who's been dealing with options straddles for a few years, I wanted to add a couple of additional considerations that might help @Daniel Price and others in similar situations. One thing I learned the hard way is to be very careful about the "substantially identical" rules when you have straddles. If you close one leg of a straddle at a loss and then open a similar position within 30 days, you could trigger both wash sale rules AND straddle loss deferral rules simultaneously. This creates a complex interaction that can defer your losses even longer than you might expect. Also, since you mentioned you started in March, make sure you're applying the straddle rules consistently throughout the year. The IRS expects you to identify straddle positions when you establish them, not retroactively at tax time. While you can sometimes make elections after the fact, it's much cleaner if you have documentation showing when positions were intended to be straddles. For your $14,200 in profits, depending on how much of that came from straddle positions versus outright directional trades, you might find that some of those gains need to be adjusted based on previously deferred losses from the offsetting legs of your straddles. This is where keeping detailed records of which trades were part of straddles becomes crucial. The tools mentioned like taxr.ai sound helpful for automating this process, but make sure whatever method you use properly handles the timeline of when straddles were established versus closed.

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This is exactly the kind of detailed guidance I needed! @Alicia Stern, your point about the interaction between wash sale rules and straddle loss deferral is particularly concerning since I definitely had some situations where I closed losing positions and reopened similar ones within the 30-day window. I'm realizing now that I should have been more systematic about documenting my straddle positions from the beginning. Most of my trades were reactive to market movements rather than planned straddle strategies, so I'm worried about how to properly identify which positions should be treated as straddles versus independent trades. Quick question: when you mention "substantially identical" rules, does this apply only to the exact same strike and expiration, or would SPY puts with different strikes but similar delta exposure be considered substantially identical? I had several situations where I was rolling positions to different strikes to manage risk. Also, do you know if there's a safe harbor or de minimis rule for small traders? With only $14,200 in profits and relatively simple strategies, I'm hoping the IRS might be more lenient on some of the technical documentation requirements.

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Sofia Torres

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Check the actual date listed next to your 846 code on the transcript. That date is when the IRS schedules the deposit to be sent to your bank. Then your bank might take 1-3 more days to actually post it to your account. My 0604 path return had the 846 code but the date was for NEXT week, so I was checking my account for nothing.

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Is the 846 date always accurate? Mine says February 28th but today is March 2nd and still nothing in my account. I also used Cash App like the poster mentioned.

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Sofia Torres

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The 846 date is usually accurate for when the IRS releases the funds, but it doesn't guarantee when your bank or Cash App will make those funds available to you. Most financial institutions receive the money on the 846 date but can hold it for 1-3 business days before posting it to your account. With Cash App specifically, they sometimes have processing delays during tax season due to the high volume of deposits. If your 846 date was February 28th and today is March 2nd, I'd give it until the end of today. If nothing arrives by tomorrow, you might want to contact Cash App support to see if they can provide any information about pending deposits.

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has anyone noticed that the 0604 path seems to be moving slower this year? i filed in January, got my 846 code last week, and my refund just hit my account today. last year i was a 0605 path and got my money 2 days after the transcript updated. is the irs just prioritizing certain paths first this year?

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I noticed the same thing! I was 0605 last year and got my refund super quick. This year I'm 0604 and it's taking forever even though my 846 code has been there for days. I think they're definitely processing certain paths differently.

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I think it might be related to the types of returns each path handles rather than deliberate prioritization. The 0604 path typically processes returns with certain tax situations that might require additional verification steps, which could naturally slow things down. Last year's processing volumes and system loads were different too. From what I've seen in the community, 0604 path filers are still getting their refunds, just with a slightly longer timeline between the 846 code appearing and the actual deposit hitting accounts.

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