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As a freelancer who just went through this exact process last week, I can confirm that calling is definitely the way to go! I was dreading it but ended up getting through in about 35 minutes on a Tuesday morning. The agent was super helpful and walked me through everything step by step. One thing I'd recommend that I don't think anyone mentioned yet - if you have any business mail forwarding set up with USPS, make sure to coordinate the timing. I updated my address with the IRS first, but forgot to set up mail forwarding until a few days later. Luckily nothing got lost, but it could have been a problem if any important IRS notices came during that gap. Also, for anyone who's anxious about the call like I was - the agents are used to helping people with address changes, it's a routine request for them. Don't stress too much about it! You'll be done before you know it.
That's such a good point about coordinating with USPS mail forwarding! I would have totally overlooked that timing issue. It's one of those things that seems obvious once someone mentions it, but easy to miss when you're focused on just getting the IRS part done. Thanks for the heads up - I'll make sure to get my mail forwarding sorted out before I make the call to update my EIN address. Really appreciate you sharing the practical details from your recent experience!
I just wanted to say thank you to everyone who shared their experiences here! As someone who was completely lost about this process when I first posted, this thread has been incredibly helpful. I'm planning to make the call next week and feel so much more prepared now thanks to all the detailed advice and real experiences you've all shared. Special shoutout to everyone who mentioned the practical tips like having snacks ready for the hold time, writing down the reference number, coordinating with USPS mail forwarding, and calling outside of tax season when possible. These are the kinds of details you don't think about until someone who's been through it mentions them! It's really reassuring to hear that the IRS agents are generally helpful with this process and that it's more routine than scary. You've all definitely helped calm my nerves about making that call. I'll report back once I get it done in case my experience adds anything useful for future first-timers! š
Does anybody know if you can use a gift card to pay if you're on a payment plan with the IRS? I owe about $5k and am making monthly payments but would rather use some gift cards I got for Christmas.
Yes, you can use gift cards for payment plan installments. I'm on a plan and used a few Visa gift cards for my payments. You just go through the same payment processors and select the payment plan option instead of the regular tax payment. Just remember you'll still pay the processing fee each time.
Just wanted to share my experience since I was in a similar situation last year. I had about $800 in various Visa gift cards and successfully used them to pay part of my tax bill. A few key tips: 1. Definitely register ALL your gift cards first with your exact billing address before attempting payment - this is crucial or they'll be declined 2. I used Official Payments and the fee was about 1.87% which wasn't too bad 3. You can make multiple payments if needed, but you'll pay the convenience fee each time 4. Keep detailed records of each transaction - I had one gift card that didn't process correctly and needed the receipt to sort it out The whole process took me about 30 minutes once I had everything registered properly. Way better than scrambling to find cash! Just budget for those processing fees when you're calculating how much you can actually put toward your tax bill.
This is super helpful! I'm definitely going to register my gift cards first - I was about to just try using them without doing that step. Quick question though - when you say "exact billing address," do you mean it has to match exactly what's on my tax return, or what the IRS has on file for me? I moved recently and I'm not sure if my address is updated with them yet.
Has anyone gone through the process of donating inherited jewelry instead? I've heard you can get a tax deduction equal to the fair market value without having to deal with capital gains. Wondering if that might be easier than selling all the costume stuff.
I donated some of my grandma's costume jewelry to a local theater company and was able to deduct the fair market value. You'll need a receipt from the charitable organization, and if the value is over $250, make sure they specifically describe what was donated. For anything valued over $5,000, you'll need a formal appraisal for tax purposes.
One thing to keep in mind when dealing with inherited jewelry collections like yours is to maintain detailed records of everything - even the less valuable pieces. I went through something similar with my aunt's estate and learned the hard way that organization is key. For the massive collection you're describing, consider creating a simple spreadsheet with photos, estimated values, and source of valuation (whether appraised, researched online, etc.). This becomes invaluable when tax time comes around and you're trying to remember what you sold and for how much. Also, don't overlook the fact that some costume jewelry from certain eras or designers can actually be worth more than you'd expect. Before selling everything in bulk lots, it might be worth doing a quick online search for any signed pieces or items that look like they might be from well-known costume jewelry makers like Trifari, Coro, or Weiss. You'd be surprised what collectors pay for vintage costume jewelry in good condition. The step-up basis rule everyone mentioned is definitely your friend here, but having good documentation will make your life much easier if you ever need to justify your valuations.
This is excellent advice about documentation! I'm just starting to go through a similar inherited collection and hadn't thought about creating a spreadsheet. That makes so much sense for keeping track of everything. Quick question - when you say "signed pieces," do you mean pieces that have the maker's name actually stamped or engraved on them? I'm seeing some pieces that have what look like maker's marks but I'm not sure if they're worth researching further or if they're just random markings. Also, did you find any good online resources for researching costume jewelry values? I've been looking at eBay sold listings but wondering if there are better databases for this kind of thing.
Can I just say how annoying it is that all this tax stuff isn't taught in school?? I have a master's degree but still had to google "what is an EIN" when I started freelancing. The IRS instructions might as well be written in another language lol
Great question! As others have mentioned, you don't technically need an EIN as a sole proprietor, but I'd definitely recommend getting one for the privacy protection alone. I've been freelancing for about 3 years now and got my EIN right from the start. One thing I'd add is that having an EIN can also make it easier to separate your business finances from personal ones. Even though you're not required to have a separate business bank account as a sole proprietor, many banks prefer an EIN when opening business accounts. This makes tracking your business income and expenses much cleaner come tax time. The application process through the IRS website is straightforward and takes maybe 10-15 minutes. Just make sure you apply directly through the official IRS site (irs.gov) - there are a lot of third-party sites that will charge you fees for something that's completely free from the IRS. Also, since you're making steady income ($1200/month is great!), don't forget about quarterly estimated tax payments. You'll likely owe both income tax and self-employment tax on that freelance income.
This is really helpful advice! I'm just getting started with freelance work myself and had no idea about the quarterly estimated tax payments. How do you know when you need to start making those? Is there a minimum income threshold, or do you need to start as soon as you have any self-employment income?
Zainab Ahmed
Has anyone tried just using the IRS Tax Withholding Estimator online? It's supposed to handle all these complicated situations but when I input our info (very similar to yours - W2 income plus self-employment), it gave me a completely different number than what the worksheet method showed. Now I don't know which one to trust!
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Connor Gallagher
ā¢I've used the IRS Withholding Estimator for our mixed income situation and found it actually works pretty well. The key is making sure you have very accurate estimates of ALL income and deductions. If you're even a little off on the self-employment income estimate or don't account for all your deductions, the recommended withholding can be way off.
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Jayden Reed
I went through this exact same situation last year and it was such a headache! After trying multiple approaches, here's what ended up working best for us: The key thing I learned is that you need to be really careful about which "income" number you're using. Don't just put his gross $145k on line 4(a) - you need his NET self-employment income (after business deductions) MINUS the self-employment tax deduction. Here's the process that worked for me: 1. Estimate his net profit after business expenses 2. Calculate SE tax (net profit Ć 0.9235 Ć 0.153) 3. The deductible portion is half of that SE tax 4. Subtract that deduction from his net profit 5. THAT number goes on line 4(a) Also, don't forget about the child tax credit on Step 3 - with three qualifying kids, that's $6,000 in credits that will reduce your tax liability significantly. I'd recommend running your numbers through the IRS Withholding Estimator AND doing the manual worksheet calculation to double-check. If they're close, you're probably on the right track. If they're way different, dig deeper into which estimates might be off. The peace of mind is worth the extra effort to get it right!
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Fatima Al-Maktoum
ā¢This is really helpful, thank you for breaking down the step-by-step process! I'm a bit confused about one part though - when you say "net profit after business expenses," are you referring to what would go on Schedule C line 31, or is there another calculation I should be doing? Also, for the self-employment tax calculation, is the 0.9235 factor always the same regardless of income level? I want to make sure I'm not missing any nuances since this is my first time dealing with SE income on the W-4.
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