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This is really helpful information! I'm dealing with a similar situation but with a December 31st fiscal year end for my S-Corp. Just to make sure I understand the pattern correctly - since my fiscal year ends December 31, 2024, I would file a 2024 tax return by March 15, 2025, covering the period January 1, 2024 through December 31, 2024. The confusing part for me is that this means my S-Corp return and my personal return would both be for the same tax year (2024), but my K-1 income from the S-Corp gets reported on my personal return. Is there any timing issue I should be aware of when both returns are due around the same time in 2025? Also, @Mateo Sanchez, your point about needing a valid business purpose for non-calendar fiscal years is concerning. How do you determine if your fiscal year qualifies as a "natural business year"? My business is seasonal and most of our revenue does come in the last few months of the calendar year, so I'm wondering if that helps justify the December 31st end date.

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Actually, if your S-Corp has a December 31st fiscal year end, you're essentially on a calendar year basis, which is the default and doesn't require any special business purpose justification! The IRS only scrutinizes non-calendar fiscal years (like March, June, September ends, etc.). For your timing question - yes, both your S-Corp return (Form 1120-S) and your personal return would be due around the same time. The S-Corp return is due March 15, 2025, and your personal return is due April 15, 2025. The key is that the S-Corp needs to issue your K-1 by March 15 so you have the information to complete your personal return. Many S-Corp owners file an extension on their personal return to give themselves more time after receiving the K-1. Since you mentioned your business is seasonal with most revenue in the last few months, December 31st makes perfect sense as your fiscal year end anyway - you're capturing your full business cycle in one tax year.

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Sofia Torres

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Great question! I was in the exact same boat when I first set up my S-Corp with a fiscal year end. The rule is straightforward once you understand it: you file based on the calendar year in which your fiscal year ENDS, not when it begins. So for your fiscal year ending September 30, 2024, you'll file a 2024 tax return (Form 1120-S) due March 15, 2025. This return covers your business activity from October 1, 2023 through September 30, 2024. One thing that helped me keep this straight: think of it as "which year am I closing the books in?" Since you're closing your books in 2024 (September 30, 2024), that's your 2024 tax year. Also, don't forget that even though your S-Corp files for 2024, you'll report your K-1 income on your personal 2024 return too (due April 15, 2025). The timing works out since your S-Corp return is due first and should generate your K-1 in time for your personal filing. If you need more time, you can always file Form 7004 for an automatic 6-month extension on the S-Corp return. Good luck with your second year - it gets easier once you get the rhythm down!

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This is such a clear explanation, thank you! I'm also in my second year with an S-Corp and was getting confused by all the different dates floating around. The "which year am I closing the books in" approach really helps clarify it. I have a follow-up question though - what happens if my fiscal year spans across two calendar years but I need to make estimated tax payments? For example, if my S-Corp fiscal year runs October 2023 to September 2024, when do I make estimated payments for the income I'll eventually report on my 2024 personal return?

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846 Code Appeared 1/7/2025 After Amended Return & Refund Freeze - How Long For Paper Check Delivery?

After waiting forever I finally got an 846 refund issued code on my transcript dated 01-07-2025! Since I didn't provide direct deposit info they're mailing a check. Anyone know how long it typically takes to get the check in the mail after the 846 date shows up? Here's what my transcript shows: 766 Credit to your account - 04-16-2024 767 Reduced or removed credit to your account - 04-16-2024 764 Earned income credit - 04-16-2024 960 Appointed representative - 10-02-2024 971 Amended tax return or claim forwarded for processing - 11-08-2024 977 Amended return filed - 11-08-2024 33277-718-56733-4 767 Reduced or removed credit to your account - 04-16-2024 766 Credit to your account - 04-16-2024 764 Earned income credit - 04-16-2024 291 Reduced or removed prior tax assessed - 12-31-2024 18254-746-07771-4 290 Additional tax assessed - 01-07-2025 18254-746-07772-4 811 Removed refund freeze - 12-21-2024 846 Refund issued - 01-07-2025 776 Interest credited to your account - 01-14-2025 I'm especially excited to see that 811 code (Removed refund freeze) from 12-21-2024 followed by the 846 (Refund issued) on 01-07-2025. They're even giving me interest according to that 776 code dated 01-14-2025! The whole process has been a nightmare with my amended return from November and all these different codes. I'm just anxious to know when I'll actually see this check in my mailbox since I didn't set up direct deposit.

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That's amazing news about finally getting your 846 code! I totally understand the relief you must be feeling after dealing with an amended return and refund freeze for so long. From what I've seen in this community, paper checks typically take 5-7 business days to arrive after the 846 date appears on your transcript. Since yours is dated 01-07-2025, you should hopefully see it by this Friday or early next week. The sequence of codes you have looks really good - that 811 "refund freeze removed" on 12-21 followed by the 846 on 01-07 shows everything is finally processing properly through the system. And getting interest with that 776 code is a nice bonus after all the waiting you've been through! I'd definitely recommend signing up for USPS Informed Delivery if you haven't already - you'll get an email each morning with photos of your incoming mail so you'll know exactly when that check is on its way to your mailbox. Fingers crossed it arrives soon! 🀞

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AstroAlpha

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Congrats on finally getting that 846 code! What a relief after all you've been through with the amended return and refund freeze. Based on what I've seen here, paper checks typically arrive 5-7 business days after the 846 date. Since yours shows 01-07-2025, you should hopefully see it by this Friday or early next week. That progression from 811 "refund freeze removed" on 12-21 to 846 on 01-07 is exactly what you want to see - everything's finally moving! And getting interest with that 776 code is awesome after all the delays. Definitely set up USPS Informed Delivery if you haven't already so you can track when it's actually coming to your mailbox. Keep us posted! 🀞

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Quick question - I'm using TurboTax and wondering if it can handle Form 3115 for missed depreciation? Their support wasn't clear about it.

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Dmitry Ivanov

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I tried doing this with TurboTax last year and it was a nightmare. They technically support Form 3115 but not for this specific use case. I ended up switching to H&R Block's premium version which handled it much better. FreeTaxUSA might support it too but I haven't personally tried it for Form 3115.

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Mei Chen

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I'd recommend using a professional for Form 3115, especially your first time. It's one of the more complex IRS forms with a lot of different sections and schedules. Getting it wrong can create bigger problems than just missing the depreciation in the first place. Even as a tax professional, I reference the Form 3115 instructions every time I complete one.

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Jade Santiago

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I went through this exact same situation with three rental properties I bought between 2020-2022. The stress was overwhelming until I realized how straightforward the fix actually is with Form 3115. A few practical tips that helped me: 1. Calculate your basis correctly - for residential rentals, you can only depreciate the building, not the land. Your purchase contract or property tax assessment should show the land vs building allocation. 2. Remember that depreciation starts when the property is "placed in service" for rental use, not necessarily when you bought it. If you spent time renovating before it was rentable, that affects your start date. 3. The Section 481(a) adjustment on Form 3115 will be substantial (mine was over $35k total), but don't worry - this is exactly what the form is designed for. The IRS expects large catch-up amounts. 4. File Form 3115 with your current year return, not as an amendment to prior years. This is key - it saves you from the hassle and potential issues of multiple amended returns. One last thing - make sure you continue depreciating correctly going forward! The mistake is fixable, but you don't want to repeat it. Good luck!

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This is incredibly helpful, especially the point about land vs building allocation! I never even thought about that distinction. Do you happen to know what percentage is typically allocated to land vs building for residential properties? I'm looking at my closing documents now and I don't see a clear breakdown. Would the county assessor's office have this information, or is there a standard method to determine it? Also, regarding the "placed in service" date - I did do some minor repairs and cleaning on both properties before renting them out (maybe 2-3 weeks after closing). Should I use the repair completion date or the date I first listed them for rent as the placed in service date?

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I've been getting bombarded with these same Tax Strategists of America ads and was seriously considering their services until I found this discussion. As someone who runs a small logistics company with 15 employees, their "zero tax" promises were really tempting because I always feel like I'm paying too much in taxes. Reading through everyone's real experiences here has been a huge wake-up call. The pattern is so consistent - these services are essentially repackaging basic tax strategies that a qualified CPA should already know, then charging thousands for it. The "zero tax" claim should have been an immediate red flag, but their marketing is incredibly polished and creates real FOMO. What I find most valuable is how this thread evolved into practical advice about finding industry-specialized CPAs instead. For logistics, I need someone who understands vehicle depreciation, fuel tax credits, per-mile deductions, and equipment financing strategies - not generic advice wrapped in fancy marketing language. I'm definitely going to skip these expensive "strategist" services and use that money to find a CPA who actually specializes in transportation and logistics businesses. The evaluation questions shared here are perfect - I'll adapt them to test potential CPAs on logistics-specific tax issues. Thanks to everyone for sharing such honest experiences. This discussion has saved me from what could have been a very expensive mistake while pointing me toward legitimate professional expertise instead!

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Brian Downey

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This is exactly what I needed to hear! I've been getting hit with the same aggressive ads and was starting to feel like I was missing out on some secret knowledge by not responding. Your point about the polished marketing creating FOMO really hits home - these companies are clearly very skilled at making you second-guess your current tax situation. What really stands out to me across this entire discussion is how consistent the pattern has been regardless of industry. Whether it's manufacturing, retail, construction, food service, or logistics like your business, the core issue is the same: these "tax strategist" services are repackaging standard professional knowledge at premium prices while making unrealistic promises. I love how you're adapting the evaluation questions for logistics-specific issues like vehicle depreciation and fuel tax credits. That's exactly the right approach - testing potential CPAs on the actual technical knowledge relevant to your specific business operations rather than falling for generic marketing claims. This thread has become such an incredible resource for anyone dealing with these aggressive tax service ads. The combination of real business owner experiences and professional tax expert insights has made it crystal clear that the smart money is on finding qualified industry-specialized CPAs rather than expensive consultation services. Thanks for adding your perspective to this incredibly valuable discussion!

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I've been dealing with these exact same aggressive ads from Tax Strategists of America and similar services! As a small business owner in the tech sector, I was really tempted by their promises until I read through this incredibly thorough discussion. What strikes me most is how consistent everyone's experiences have been - the people who actually tried these expensive services consistently found they were paying premium prices for basic tax knowledge that a qualified CPA should already know. The "zero tax" promise being a major red flag makes perfect sense when you think about it logically. For tech businesses, I realize I should be looking for a CPA who understands software depreciation, R&D credits for development work, home office deductions for remote teams, and Section 199A implications for service businesses - not falling for generic "secret strategies" that probably don't exist. The evaluation questions everyone shared are incredibly valuable. Instead of spending $5,000+ on one of these heavily marketed consultations, I'm going to invest that money in finding a CPA who genuinely specializes in technology businesses and can provide ongoing strategic guidance throughout the year. Thanks to everyone for sharing such honest, detailed experiences - both the cautionary tales and success stories. This discussion has definitely saved me from making what could have been a very expensive mistake while pointing me toward legitimate professional expertise!

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Another option nobody mentioned is to reach out to your local Congressional representative's office. I had a similar issue last year that I couldn't resolve after months of trying, and my Congressman's office has staff specifically for helping constituents with federal agency issues. They contacted the IRS on my behalf and got everything resolved within 2 weeks. Their offices deal with the IRS all the time.

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This actually works! My sister had an issue with a refund that was stuck for months, and our Representative's office got it resolved when nothing else worked. They have special channels to contact government agencies.

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Ava Thompson

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Thank you all for the incredibly helpful suggestions! I didn't even think about reaching out to my Congressional rep's office - that's brilliant. Going to try the early morning call trick tomorrow, and if that doesn't work I'll look into both the services mentioned. Just knowing there are actual options gives me hope I can get this fixed before the filing deadline!

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Connor Richards

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I work as a tax preparer and deal with IRS phone issues regularly. Here's a pro tip that works about 70% of the time: call the IRS business line at 1-800-829-4933 instead of the individual taxpayer line. Even though you're calling about a personal tax issue, they often have shorter wait times and can transfer you to the right department once you explain your situation. Also, when you do get through (whether using one of the services mentioned or calling directly), make sure you have your Social Security number, the exact amount of the payment, the date you made it, and your confirmation number ready. The agent will need all of this to locate and transfer your payment. Write down the representative's ID number and get a confirmation number for the transfer - this will save you if you need to call back for any reason. One more thing - if your payment was made within the last 90 days, they can usually fix it with a simple account adjustment. If it was longer ago, it might require additional paperwork, so timing matters here.

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Dominique Adams

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This is really helpful advice, especially about having all the documentation ready! Quick question - when you call the business line, do you just explain that you have a payment issue right away, or do you need to navigate through their automated system first? I'm worried they'll just transfer me back to the regular taxpayer line if I mention it's a personal tax matter.

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