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Dmitry Popov

Passive loss carryover from Real estate properties - when can I use these accumulated losses?

So I've been investing in a couple rental properties over the last few years and I've accumulated some passive losses that I can't seem to deduct against my regular income. My CPA explained it's because I don't qualify as a real estate professional and my income is over the threshold where you can take a partial deduction (I think around $150k?). My question is what happens to these losses? Do they just keep piling up year after year with no way to use them? And more importantly, will I be able to finally use these accumulated losses when I eventually sell the properties or if I decide to do a 1031 exchange into different properties? I'm trying to understand if there's any tax benefit to these passive losses I'm carrying forward or if they're basically useless to me.

Ava Garcia

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Good question about passive loss carryovers! Those losses don't disappear - they get suspended and carried forward indefinitely until one of two things happens: First, if you generate passive income in future years (maybe from these properties once they're more profitable or from other passive investments), you can use your carried-over passive losses to offset that passive income. Second, when you fully dispose of your interest in the activity (selling the property) in a taxable transaction, you can use any remaining suspended passive losses from that specific property against any type of income - including your regular income like wages. This is the "release" of accumulated passive losses at disposition. Important note: If you do a 1031 exchange, that's NOT considered a complete disposition for passive loss purposes. The IRS considers this a continuation of the investment, so your suspended passive losses would continue to be carried forward and attached to your replacement property.

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StarSailor}

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So if I'm understanding right, a 1031 basically means you keep carrying the losses forward, but if you do an actual sale, you can use all those accumulated losses at once? Is there any limit to how much of those passive losses you can use in the year you sell?

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Ava Garcia

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That's exactly right! When you do a complete disposition (sale) of the property, you can use ALL of the suspended passive losses from that property against any type of income - there's no limit to how much you can use in that year. For the 1031 exchange, you're continuing the investment in the eyes of the tax code, so those losses remain suspended and carry forward to the replacement property. You'll only get to use them when you eventually sell that replacement property in a taxable transaction (non-1031).

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Zainab Ismail

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How does this service work exactly? I've got passive losses from two rental homes I've owned for 6 years, and my CPA just keeps saying "we'll use them someday" without any real strategy. Does taxr.ai give specific recommendations or just general advice?

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I'm skeptical about online tax services. Can they actually help with passive loss strategies better than a regular CPA? I've had mine tracked for years and always wondered if there were better ways to utilize them besides waiting for a sale.

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This sounds too good to be true. The IRS wait times are infamous. I've literally given up trying to call them about my passive loss questions. You're telling me this service actually got you through to a real person who knew what they were talking about regarding real estate passive losses?

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Yara Nassar

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Paolo Ricci

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Something nobody mentioned yet - if your income drops below $100,000 (modified AGI), you can actually use up to $25,000 of your passive losses against ordinary income. This is the "special allowance" for rental real estate activities in which you actively participate. The allowance phases out between $100,000-$150,000 of MAGI. Might be worth planning if you're near those thresholds or might have a lower income year coming up.

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Amina Toure

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Does "actively participate" mean the same thing as being a "real estate professional" for tax purposes? I always get confused about the different levels of involvement and what qualifies for each.

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Paolo Ricci

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Great question! They're completely different standards. "Active participation" is a much lower threshold than qualifying as a "real estate professional" for tax purposes. Active participation just means you make management decisions like approving tenants, setting rental terms, approving expenses, etc. You don't need to meet any specific hour requirements for this standard, and you can even have a property manager handling day-to-day operations. Being a real estate professional is much stricter - you need to spend 750+ hours per year in real estate activities, and that must be more than half of your total working time. This is the standard that lets you deduct unlimited passive losses if you qualify.

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Has anyone used their passive losses when refinancing a property? My CPA mentioned something about this but wasn't very clear and I'm wondering if it's even possible.

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Refinancing doesn't trigger the release of passive losses - it's not considered a disposition. You need an actual sale or complete disposition of your interest in the property. I learned this the hard way last year when I refinanced my duplex and expected to use some of my $32,000 in accumulated passive losses. My tax guy explained it doesn't work that way.

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Liam McGuire

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One thing to keep in mind about passive loss carryovers is that they're tracked separately for each passive activity. So if you have two rental properties, the suspended losses from Property A can only be released when you dispose of Property A - you can't use them when you sell Property B. This is important for planning purposes if you're thinking about which property to sell first. Also, since you mentioned your income is over $150k, you might want to consider the timing of any property sales. If you have a year where your income drops (maybe due to retirement, job change, or large business deductions), that could be an optimal time to sell and realize those passive losses against your regular income. The tax savings could be substantial depending on how much you have accumulated.

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Ev Luca

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This is really helpful information about the separate tracking! I didn't realize each property's losses were tracked individually. So if I have $15k in suspended losses from Property A and $20k from Property B, and I sell Property A, I can only use the $15k from that specific property? That definitely changes my thinking about which property to sell first. I should probably look at which one has more accumulated losses when deciding on timing. Also great point about planning around lower income years - I might have some flexibility with business expenses that could create an opportunity.

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