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Has anyone here actually moved specifically for tax purposes and was it worth it? I'm considering leaving California for Nevada or Wyoming before selling my business next year (looking at a gain around $1.2 million), but wondering if the hassle is really worth the tax savings.
I moved from New York to Florida in 2021 specifically to avoid NY state tax on a large crypto windfall. Saved about $68,000 in state taxes, but California is even higher than NY so you'd save more. Totally worth it for me, but I was planning to leave NY anyway. Big warning though: establish residency AT LEAST a full year before your sale. NY department of revenue still tried to audit me even though I had clearly moved. Had to provide cell phone location data, utility bills, and even grocery receipts to prove I really lived in Florida.
With a $1.2 million gain, you're looking at potentially saving around $159,600 in California state taxes (13.3% top rate) by establishing residency in Nevada or Wyoming before selling. That's definitely life-changing money and worth the hassle for most people. However, California is notoriously aggressive about auditing people who move right before large financial events - they call it the "golden handcuffs" audit. You'll need to be absolutely meticulous about establishing true residency. I'd recommend: 1. Move at least 12-18 months before selling if possible 2. Spend at least 183+ days physically in your new state each year 3. Change EVERYTHING - voter registration, driver's license, bank accounts, doctors, etc. 4. Keep detailed records of where you spend each day 5. Consider selling your California residence entirely to show clear intent The audit risk is real but manageable if you truly commit to the move. Just don't try to fake it - California has sophisticated methods for tracking where people actually live and the penalties for getting caught are severe.
This is really helpful advice! I'm actually in a similar situation but with stock options instead of a business sale. One question - you mentioned keeping detailed records of where you spend each day. What's the best way to do this? Just a simple calendar or is there some app or system that would hold up better in an audit? Also, when you say "consider selling your California residence entirely," does that mean renting wouldn't be enough to show clear intent? I was thinking about keeping my current place as a rental property but maybe that's a red flag for auditors?
According to 11 U.S.C. ยง 541(a)(5), tax refunds can be considered property of the bankruptcy estate, but exemptions vary by jurisdiction. Per In re Nunez, 2021 Bankr. LEXIS 1287, courts have consistently held that properly documented exclusions in confirmed Chapter 13 plans are binding on trustees. If your attorney included this protection, your refund should process normally, though it may be subject to additional review per IRS Manual 5.9.17.4.2 regarding bankruptcy flagged returns. Most importantly, keep documentation of all communications with your attorney and trustee regarding this matter.
I went through Chapter 13 a few years back and had a similar situation with tax refund protection. One thing that really helped me was staying proactive about monitoring the process. Since you mentioned your attorney included provisions to protect your refund, that's great - but I'd recommend getting a copy of those specific provisions if you don't already have them. In my case, the refund did come directly to me as expected, but it took about 6-8 weeks longer than usual because of additional IRS verification steps. The key is making sure your trustee has been properly notified and that there are no conflicting interpretations of your plan terms. Have you received any communication from your trustee's office about the refund handling process? Sometimes they send out standard letters explaining their procedures, which can give you a better timeline expectation.
Has anyone tried just ignoring the error and continuing anyway? I had a similar "required field missing" error with TaxAct last year but when I clicked "File Anyway" it still went through fine. Sometimes these tax programs have non-critical errors that don't actually stop your filing.
Don't do this! I tried that approach with H&R Block last year and my return got rejected by the state because the county code was missing. Had to amend and it delayed my refund by almost 2 months. The county field is actually required for many states even though H&R Block does a terrible job of making that clear.
I just went through this exact same nightmare with H&R Block! After reading through all these suggestions, I found my county field hiding in the most ridiculous place - under "State and Local" taxes, then "Locality Information." What's crazy is that H&R Block's system knew my county from my zip code for the federal return, but somehow couldn't carry that over to the state section. I had to manually select it from a dropdown that only appeared after I clicked "Edit" next to my address in that specific section. The error message is completely misleading because it says "add your County Name" but doesn't specify it's looking for it in the state tax locality section, not your personal information. Spent 3 hours going in circles before I found it buried in there. For anyone still stuck - check every single section that mentions "local" or "locality" in your state return. The field location seems to vary by state but it's almost never where you'd logically expect it to be!
Thank you so much for sharing the exact location! I've been stuck on this same error for two days and was getting ready to give up on H&R Block entirely. Just checked under "State and Local" > "Locality Information" and there it was - the county dropdown that I never would have found otherwise. You're absolutely right about their error message being misleading. When it says "add your County Name" you'd naturally think to look in your personal/address information, not buried in a state tax section. It's like they designed the interface to be as confusing as possible. For what it's worth, I'm in Pennsylvania and the field was in the exact same place you described. Hopefully this helps other people avoid the same frustration!
Have you considered alternating years? That's what my ex and I do - I take odd years, he takes even years. No Form 8332 needed if you follow the tie-breaker rules and have it specified in your custody agreement. Saves a lot of paperwork and potential disputes. We just make sure our custody agreement clearly states which parent claims the child in which years, and then we each take the exemption, Child Tax Credit, and any medical expenses we personally paid in our designated years. Much simpler than dealing with Form 8332 every year.
As someone who went through a similar situation with significant medical expenses for my child, I can share what I learned from both my tax preparer and direct experience with the IRS. The key insight that helped me was understanding that Form 8332 creates a very specific split of benefits - it ONLY transfers the dependency exemption and Child Tax Credit to the non-custodial parent. Everything else stays with whoever is entitled to it under normal rules. For your medical expenses specifically, you can deduct them if YOU paid them, period. The IRS doesn't care who claims the dependency exemption when it comes to medical expense deductions - they only care who actually wrote the checks or used their credit card. I claimed $3,200 in medical expenses for my daughter even though my ex claimed her as a dependent that same year. No issues whatsoever. Just make sure you have solid documentation (receipts, insurance statements, etc.) showing you were the one who paid. One tip: if you're close to the 7.5% AGI threshold for medical deductions, run the numbers both ways to see if it makes more sense for you or your ex to claim the medical expenses, assuming you both contributed to the costs.
This is really helpful, especially the part about running the numbers both ways! I'm new to dealing with Form 8332 and hadn't considered that strategy. Quick question - when you say "assuming you both contributed to the costs," does that mean if both parents paid different medical bills for the same child, each parent can deduct what they personally paid on their respective returns? So theoretically, the total medical expenses for one child could be split between two tax returns based on who actually paid each bill?
Emma Anderson
This is such valuable information! I've been meaning to look into this for months but kept procrastinating. The step-by-step guidance from @NightOwl42 about using the IRS.gov Get An IP PIN tool is exactly what I needed. And wow, I had no idea about checking for existing credit reports for kids - that's genuinely terrifying that theft can go undetected for years. Definitely setting calendar reminders for December renewals and keeping everything in my password manager. Thank you everyone for sharing your experiences and making this feel less overwhelming!
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Yuki Kobayashi
โขSame here! I've been dragging my feet on this for way too long. Seeing everyone's experiences really drives home how important this is. The part about checking existing credit reports for kids is what really got my attention - I never even considered that someone could already be using their SSNs without us knowing. Going to tackle both the IP PINs and credit checks this weekend while I'm motivated. Thanks for summarizing all the key points so well!
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Roger Romero
This thread has been incredibly eye-opening! As a parent of two young kids (ages 5 and 8), I've been worried about data breaches but didn't know there was something proactive I could do. The advice about getting IP PINs for ALL children regardless of age really hit home - it makes total sense that younger kids are actually more vulnerable since the theft would go undetected longer. I'm planning to set this up this weekend along with checking for any existing credit reports. Quick question though - when you check for credit reports for minors, do you just contact the three major bureaus directly? And should I expect any pushback since kids shouldn't have credit files in the first place?
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Ezra Collins
โขGreat questions! Yes, you contact Experian, Equifax, and TransUnion directly to request credit reports for your kids. You're right that children shouldn't have credit files, so if reports exist, that's a red flag for identity theft. The bureaus might ask for additional documentation to prove you're the parent (like birth certificates) since this isn't a typical request. Some may push back initially, but you have the legal right to check. If no credit file exists, that's good news! If files do exist, you'll need to work with the bureaus to freeze the accounts and file identity theft reports. It's definitely worth the peace of mind to check!
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