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Nia Thompson

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I'm in a very similar situation - 7 years unfiled due to some major life upheavals. Reading through all these responses has been incredibly helpful! One thing I wanted to add that might help you is to check if your employers from previous years are still in business. I found that some of my older W-2s were easier to get directly from the company's HR department than going through the IRS transcript process, especially for the years where I had multiple jobs. Also, I discovered that some states have their own amnesty programs for unfiled state returns that run parallel to federal issues. Since you're dealing with 9 years, it might be worth checking if your state offers any penalty relief programs too. The emotional weight of this stuff is real - I put it off for so long because it felt too overwhelming. But honestly, once I started gathering documents for just one year, it became much less scary. You're taking the right step by addressing this proactively. The IRS is generally pretty reasonable when you come to them voluntarily rather than the other way around.

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This is such a supportive thread! I'm dealing with 4 years unfiled myself and feeling less alone reading everyone's experiences. Your point about checking with former employers directly is really smart - I hadn't thought of that approach. Quick question for you and others who've been through this: did any of you run into issues with estimated tax payments for years where you were self-employed or had 1099 income? I had a mix of W-2 and freelance work during my unfiled years and I'm worried about underpayment penalties on top of the failure-to-file penalties. Also completely agree about the emotional weight - the shame and overwhelm kept me paralyzed for way too long. It's encouraging to see so many people who made it through to the other side!

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Miguel Herrera

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I want to echo what others have said about you making a smart choice by addressing this voluntarily. I went through a similar situation with 5 years of unfiled returns and the relief I felt once I started tackling it was incredible. One practical tip that helped me immensely: create a dedicated email folder and physical filing system for each tax year before you start. As you gather documents and communicate with the IRS or former employers, having everything organized by year from the beginning will save you so much time and stress later. Also, don't underestimate the power of calling your former employers' payroll departments directly. I was amazed at how helpful most HR departments were when I explained my situation. Many were able to email me copies of old W-2s within a day or two, which was much faster than waiting for IRS transcripts. The hardest part really is just starting. Once you tackle that first year and see it's not as scary as your brain made it out to be, the momentum builds. You mentioned battling depression - I totally get how that can make paperwork feel insurmountable. But you're taking control now, and that's huge. You've got this!

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Javier Garcia

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This is such a helpful and encouraging thread! Reading everyone's experiences is giving me hope that I can actually get through this. Your advice about setting up the filing system upfront is brilliant - I can already see how much easier that would make everything compared to trying to organize as I go. I'm curious about the timeline for this whole process. For those of you who filed multiple years of back taxes, how long did it typically take from when you mailed everything until you heard back from the IRS? I'm trying to set realistic expectations for myself so I don't panic if I don't hear anything for months. Also, did anyone run into issues with the IRS processing multiple years out of order? I'm wondering if I should stagger my mailings or if sending them all at once (in separate envelopes) caused any confusion on their end. Thank you to everyone sharing their experiences - it's making this feel so much less isolating and overwhelming!

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Social Security Taxes with W2 and Self-Employment Income + Solo 401k Setup - Tax Implications

My brother lost his job earlier this year but received a pretty generous severance package that brought his W2 income to around $337,500 for the year. While he was getting his severance, he started an LLC back in July and has been doing some consulting work (corp-to-corp/1099) with expected earnings of about $168,750. He didn't make many estimated tax payments since most of the consulting income came in after August, and now I'm helping him figure out what he needs to pay for January estimated taxes and how to minimize his tax hit. Two issues I'm confused about: Issue #1: I know he already hit the Social Security limit with his W2 job ($160,200 for 2023). I understand he still owes the Medicare tax (1.45% x 2 for employee+employer portions) plus the 0.9% additional Medicare tax on his self-employment income since he's already over the $200k threshold from his W2 alone. But I'm not clear if he still owes the employer portion (6.2%) of Social Security on his self-employment income? The rules seem confusing since employers are supposed to pay as if they're the only employer, but individuals don't pay more than the maximum. Issue #2: We're looking at setting up a Solo 401k. He's over 50 and already put $15k into his employer's 401k (plus received $7.5k in matching). Since employer limits are PER employer, he could theoretically still contribute up to $73,500 to a Solo 401k, but he probably won't have enough 1099 income to max it out. For the employer contribution to a Solo 401k, I believe he can contribute 25% of gross business income minus his personal contributions and minus the employer half of self-employment tax. But this circles back to question #1 - is that employer half going to be just the 1.45% Medicare tax on $168,750, or the full 7.65% including Social Security? If I'm calculating correctly, his best move would be to contribute $15,000 as the employee portion (to max out at $30k total employee contributions across all plans) plus around $34-36k as the employer contribution, which would significantly reduce his taxable income. We're planning to hire a tax accountant for the actual filing, but need to handle some time-sensitive stuff before year-end like calculating January's estimated payment and setting up the Solo 401k with his employee contribution (the employer contribution can be made before the filing deadline next year). Any insights on these Social Security tax questions would be greatly appreciated!

Mei Chen

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Don't forget about state taxes in all of this! Some states have their own additional self-employment taxes or different rules for retirement plan contributions. I made this mistake a few years ago and ended up with a surprise state tax bill because I only focused on federal tax planning.

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Liam Sullivan

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This is a great point. Which states have different rules for self-employment taxes? I'm in California and wonder if there's anything specific I should watch out for.

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ApolloJackson

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This is exactly the kind of complex tax situation where having all the details straight is crucial. Based on what everyone has shared, it sounds like your brother is in a good position to significantly reduce his tax burden through the Solo 401k strategy. One additional consideration - since he's dealing with both severance income and new consulting income, make sure to factor in the timing of when the consulting payments were actually received versus earned for cash accounting purposes. If some of the $168,750 was invoiced but not yet received by year-end, that could affect both his self-employment tax calculations and his available contribution room for the Solo 401k. Also, with that level of income, he might want to consider whether a SEP-IRA could be more advantageous than a Solo 401k in his specific situation. While Solo 401k generally offers more flexibility, the administrative requirements can be more complex, especially if he's planning to continue growing his consulting business. The advice above about getting direct IRS clarification is spot on - with this much money involved and the complexity of mixed income sources, having official confirmation of the calculations could save him from costly mistakes down the road.

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QuantumQuest

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Great point about the timing of consulting income! I hadn't thought about the cash vs accrual accounting implications. Since my brother started consulting in July and most of the income came after August, we'll definitely need to verify which payments were actually received by December 31st versus just invoiced. The SEP-IRA suggestion is interesting too. I know the contribution limits are similar, but are there specific advantages for someone in his situation? From what I understand, Solo 401k allows for employee contributions (which lets him use the catch-up contributions since he's over 50), whereas SEP-IRA is employer contributions only. Given that he's already contributed to his employer's 401k, the Solo 401k seems like it would give him more total contribution room, right? And yes, definitely planning to get official IRS confirmation once we have all the numbers calculated properly. With this much money at stake, it's worth the peace of mind to make sure we're doing everything correctly.

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Quick tax tip from a bookkeeper studying for the CPA too: track your study hours! If you can show you spent X hours studying specific topics directly related to your bookkeeping services vs Y hours studying audit/topics not related, you might be able to deduct a proportional amount of the expenses. Better than nothing if the IRS questions the full deduction!

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Great advice from everyone here! I'm actually dealing with a similar situation with my tax prep business. One thing I'd add - make sure you're keeping detailed records of exactly what topics your CPA courses cover and how they relate to your current bookkeeping work. I created a simple spreadsheet tracking each course module and noting which ones directly applied to services I already offer clients (like tax prep, financial statement preparation, etc.) versus completely new areas. This documentation really helped when my CPA reviewed my deductions. Also, since you mentioned you're in startup phase - consider whether some of these expenses might qualify as startup costs under Section 195 rather than regular business expenses. Sometimes the startup cost treatment can be more favorable, especially if you're not generating much income yet to offset the deductions against. The international contractor payment is definitely deductible as others mentioned - just keep good records of the work performed and invoices received. No 1099 needed for foreign contractors working outside the US.

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Connor Murphy

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This is really helpful! I love the idea of tracking course modules in a spreadsheet - that's such smart documentation. Quick question about the Section 195 startup costs you mentioned - is there a specific timeframe for when expenses qualify as "startup" versus regular business expenses? I registered my LLC about 8 months ago but only started actively marketing in the last 3 months. Would my CPA course expenses from 6 months ago still count as startup costs?

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Great question! I went through this same confusion when I started my freelance marketing business. One thing that really helped me was creating a simple spreadsheet to track my business vs personal miles each month. I use my phone's GPS history to double-check my estimates - it's surprisingly accurate for reconstructing trips. For the 60% business use you mentioned, just make sure you can back that up with records. The IRS likes to see documentation like client appointment calendars, receipts from supply runs, and a mileage log. I learned this the hard way during a small audit last year - they wanted to see actual proof of my business driving patterns, not just my estimates. Also, don't forget that if you work from a home office, trips from your home to clients or suppliers typically qualify as business miles. But commuting from home to a regular workplace generally doesn't count as business use, even if you're self-employed.

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Malik Thomas

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This is really helpful advice! I hadn't thought about using GPS history to verify my mileage estimates. That's actually brilliant - my phone probably has way more accurate records than my rough guesses. Quick question about the home office trips - does it matter if my home office is just a spare bedroom that I use for work? Or does it need to be like an official dedicated office space for those trips to count as business miles? I do meet clients at coffee shops and co-working spaces sometimes too, so I'm wondering if trips to those locations from my home would qualify. Thanks for sharing your audit experience too - definitely want to make sure I have proper documentation from the start rather than scrambling later!

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NeonNomad

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Great question about the home office! For the home office deduction and related business miles to be valid, the space needs to be used "regularly and exclusively" for business - so a spare bedroom that you only use for work would qualify, but a kitchen table that you also use for family meals wouldn't. For your coffee shop and co-working space meetings, those trips from your home office would definitely count as business miles since you're traveling from your principal place of business to meet clients. Just make sure to keep records of who you met with and the business purpose. One tip from my audit experience: I started taking photos of my odometer at the beginning and end of business trips, along with screenshots of my destination in my maps app. It sounds like overkill, but having that level of documentation made the audit process much smoother. The IRS agent actually complimented me on my record-keeping, which probably helped my case!

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Just to add another perspective on the documentation side - I've been self-employed for about 3 years now and learned that keeping a simple mileage log in your car is super helpful for staying consistent. I use a small notebook and just jot down the odometer reading, destination, and purpose for each business trip right when I get in the car. It becomes second nature after a few weeks. One thing I wish someone had told me earlier is that you can also deduct parking fees and tolls related to business travel, regardless of whether you use standard mileage or actual expenses method. Those add up more than you'd think, especially if you're driving to client meetings in downtown areas regularly. Just make sure to save those receipts too! For your 60% estimate, that sounds pretty reasonable for a graphic design business with regular client meetings and supply runs. The key is being able to justify that percentage if asked, so definitely start tracking your actual business miles now to see if your estimate is accurate.

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Liam Cortez

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This is such practical advice! I never thought about keeping a physical notebook in the car - I've been trying to remember to track things on my phone after trips but I always forget. Having it right there would definitely make it more consistent. The parking and tolls tip is really valuable too. I probably spend $200-300 a year just on downtown parking when I meet clients, and I had no idea I could deduct that. Do you know if that includes things like parking meters and garage fees, or just certain types of parking expenses? Thanks for validating my 60% estimate too. I was second-guessing myself but it sounds like as long as I can back it up with actual records going forward, I should be in good shape. Definitely going to start that mileage log this week!

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Amy Fleming

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Thank you so much for starting this thread! My husband and I have been wrestling with this exact question for weeks. After reading through everyone's responses, I feel like I finally have a roadmap to get the right answer. The most valuable insight from this discussion is that the specific TYPE of FSA matters more than just knowing it's "an FSA." I had no idea there were limited-purpose and post-deductible versions that don't disqualify HSA contributions. Our benefits materials just say "Health Care FSA" without any additional details. Based on everyone's advice, here's my action plan: 1. Request the actual Summary Plan Description from my husband's HR department 2. Look for the specific qualifying expense language mentioned by several commenters 3. If it's truly a general-purpose FSA, use the financial comparison framework that Lucas shared to see which option maximizes our household benefit I'm also intrigued by the tools mentioned - taxr.ai for document analysis and claimyr.com for getting through to the IRS if we need official confirmation. It's reassuring to know there are resources beyond just hoping HR gives accurate information. One question for the group: For those who discovered their FSA was actually HSA-compatible, did you find any other "gotchas" in the fine print that weren't obvious from the plan summaries? I want to make sure I'm not missing anything else important when I review our documents. This community has been incredibly helpful - thanks everyone for sharing your real experiences rather than just generic advice!

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Amy, I'm so glad this thread has been helpful! To answer your question about other "gotchas" - yes, there were a couple of things I discovered when I finally got my hands on the actual plan documents: 1. **Timing effective dates:** Even though our FSA was limited-purpose (dental/vision only), there was language about it potentially expanding to general-purpose if certain conditions were met during the plan year. This could have created mid-year HSA eligibility issues if I hadn't caught it. 2. **Spouse coverage definitions:** Some FSAs have specific language about what constitutes "family member" coverage. In our case, the plan specified that even though it was limited-purpose, it could still be used for my dental/vision expenses as a spouse, but this didn't disqualify my HSA since it wasn't general medical coverage. 3. **Employer contribution strings:** My spouse's employer contributes $300 to the FSA, but there was fine print stating that if certain utilization thresholds weren't met, part of the contribution could be forfeited. This affected our cost-benefit calculation. The biggest surprise was finding out that our plan had a "conversion option" that lets us switch from limited-purpose to general-purpose FSA mid-year if we have major medical expenses. Good to know for flexibility, but important for HSA planning! Definitely read every section of those plan documents - the devil is truly in the details with these accounts!

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Val Rossi

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This thread has been incredibly illuminating! I work in employee benefits consulting and see this confusion constantly during open enrollment season. A few additional insights that might help: **Documentation Red Flags:** When reviewing your FSA plan documents, be especially wary if you see phrases like "qualified medical expenses as defined by IRS Publication 502" without further restrictions. This typically indicates a general-purpose FSA that would disqualify HSA contributions. Look instead for specific limitations like "dental and vision expenses only" or "expenses incurred after satisfaction of the high deductible health plan deductible." **Employer Communication Issues:** Many HR departments receive basic training on benefits but don't fully understand the tax implications of these account combinations. I've seen countless cases where HR confidently gives incorrect information about HSA/FSA compatibility. Always verify with the actual plan documents or insurance carrier directly. **Strategic Planning Tip:** If you discover you can't have both accounts this year, consider asking both employers about their options for next year. Some companies are adding limited-purpose FSAs or HSA-compatible health plans specifically because employees are requesting these combinations. Your inquiry might even prompt them to research better options for future plan years. The tax implications here can be significant - we're talking about thousands in potential savings or penalties - so it's absolutely worth the effort to get definitive answers rather than making assumptions. Great job everyone on emphasizing the importance of getting actual documentation!

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Zoey Bianchi

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Thank you for sharing your professional perspective! As someone who's been lurking on this thread trying to figure out my own situation, your point about documentation red flags is especially valuable. I just pulled up our FSA summary and it does indeed reference "IRS Publication 502 qualified expenses" without any restrictions - which sounds like exactly the red flag you mentioned. Your comment about HR departments giving incorrect information really resonates. I've gotten three different answers from our benefits team about whether my spouse's FSA affects my HSA eligibility, ranging from "definitely not a problem" to "you absolutely can't do both." It's clear I need to bypass HR and go straight to the source documents and insurance carrier. The strategic planning tip about requesting better options for next year is brilliant. I hadn't thought about the fact that employee demand could actually drive employers to add HSA-compatible FSA options. I'm definitely going to mention this during our next benefits survey. One follow-up question: In your experience, do insurance carriers typically have dedicated specialists who can definitively answer HSA/FSA compatibility questions? I'm worried about getting another well-meaning but potentially incorrect answer from a general customer service representative.

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