Just wanted to chime in as someone who went through this exact scenario last year! I was part-time at a company with a 401k but wasn't eligible due to hours worked, and I also did a substantial Roth conversion that pushed our income way up. The key insight everyone's mentioned is absolutely correct - your eligibility to participate in your employer's plan is what matters, not whether your employer has one. Since you're not eligible due to part-time status, you're considered "not covered" and can deduct traditional IRA contributions regardless of income level. One practical tip: when you file your taxes, make sure to answer the retirement plan coverage questions carefully. The software will ask if your employer has a retirement plan (yes) but then ask if YOU are eligible to participate (no). Getting this right is crucial for the deduction calculation. Also, keep documentation from your employer showing you're not eligible for the 401k due to part-time status. It's unlikely you'll need it, but it's good backup if questions ever arise about your coverage status. With your $25k in earned income, you'll have plenty to support the full $15k in IRA contributions for both you and your wife. The Roth conversion income actually helps your overall tax planning here since it creates room for the traditional IRA deductions to offset some of that conversion income.

I just went through this exact situation and can confirm everything others have said is correct! I was part-time at a company with a 401k but wasn't eligible to participate due to my hours. Even with a large Roth conversion pushing our income over $150k, I was able to deduct the full traditional IRA contributions for both myself and my spouse. The key is that your W-2 box 13 should NOT have the retirement plan checkbox marked if you're truly not eligible to participate. If it does get marked incorrectly, you'll need to get a corrected W-2 from your employer. One thing that really helped me was keeping a copy of my employee handbook section that specifically states the eligibility requirements for the 401k plan (usually something like "must work 1,000+ hours per year" or "must be employed for 12 months"). This documentation made it crystal clear that despite my employer having a plan, I personally wasn't covered. No issues with the IRS after filing - the deduction went through without any questions. The combination of doing a Roth conversion AND getting traditional IRA deductions actually worked out great from a tax planning perspective since the deductions offset some of the conversion income. Just make sure your tax software asks the right questions about YOUR eligibility specifically, not just whether your employer has a plan. Most good software will walk through this properly if you answer all the prompts.

Congratz on making it thru! Been stuck since February myself, might have to try that number u posted

Wow, 8 months from filing to refund - that's brutal but glad you finally got through it! Your transcript tells quite a story with all those adjustments. The fact they gave you interest (776 code) is at least something for all that waiting. I'm curious about that cycle code change from 20241305 to 18254-661-06944-4 - did you notice any pattern with when those updates happened? Also wondering if the amended return on June 4th was something they requested or you had to figure out on your own? Thanks for sharing all the details, this is super helpful for those of us still navigating the IRS maze! 🙏

I've been lurking in tax forums for a while and finally decided to jump in! This thread has been incredibly helpful - I'm in a similar situation where I want to handle my own taxes better and maybe help some family members. The progression that Lola described really appeals to me - starting with free/cheap resources and building up knowledge gradually. I like the idea of not committing thousands of dollars upfront when I'm not even sure how deep into tax prep I want to go. One question for those who've gone the self-study route: how do you stay current with tax law changes? That seems like it could be challenging without formal coursework that gets updated each year. Do you just rely on IRS publications and news sources, or are there other resources you'd recommend for keeping up with annual changes? Also curious about the seasonal H&R Block approach - do they typically hire people with zero experience, or do you need some basic knowledge first? That could be a great way to bridge the gap between self-study and real-world application.

This has been such an informative thread! As someone who's been preparing taxes professionally for about 10 years, I wanted to add a few thoughts that might help with your decision-making process. First, regarding the original question about Universal Accounting vs Surgent - Emily Jackson's assessment earlier was spot-on. Universal Accounting is comprehensive but includes a lot of accounting theory that won't be directly applicable to family tax prep. Surgent's CTP program is more focused and would definitely cover what you need for personal and small business returns. However, after reading through all these responses, I'm really impressed by the alternative approaches people have shared. The community college route is excellent - many CC programs are taught by practicing CPAs and EAs, so you get quality instruction at a fraction of the cost. The AI tool (taxr.ai) that several people mentioned is intriguing. I've been hearing more about AI tax tools from colleagues, and the educational aspect sounds compelling. Being able to learn tax concepts in the context of your actual tax situations rather than abstract examples could be really effective. One thing I'd add: whatever route you choose, consider getting an IRS Preparer Tax Identification Number (PTIN) even if you're just doing family taxes. It's inexpensive and gives you access to IRS training materials and resources that aren't available to the general public. Plus, if you ever decide to prepare returns for non-family members, you'll need it anyway. The seasonal H&R Block strategy that Lola mentioned is genuinely brilliant - I wish I'd thought of that when I was starting out!

Just wanted to add a quick note about state taxes since everyone's been focusing on federal reporting. Don't forget that most states also require you to report gambling winnings on your state tax return, even if you didn't receive a W-2G. Each state has different rules - some states don't tax gambling winnings at all, while others tax them as regular income. Since you mentioned you're using multiple sportsbooks, make sure to check the tax laws in your state of residence. Also, if you placed bets while traveling to other states (like if you went to Vegas or crossed state lines to bet), you might need to file returns in those states too, depending on where the winnings were earned and each state's specific requirements. It's another layer of complexity, but definitely something to research based on your specific situation!

Great thread everyone! As someone who went through this exact situation last year, I wanted to add a few practical tips that helped me navigate the sportsbook tax reporting process. One thing that really caught me off guard was how different each platform's year-end statements look. BetMGM's statement was pretty clear, but FanDuel and DraftKings formatted theirs completely differently, which made it confusing to ensure I was capturing all the right numbers. What I ended up doing was creating a simple Excel template with columns for: Date, Platform, Bet Type, Amount Wagered, Amount Won/Lost, and Net Result. Then I went through each platform's transaction history month by month and logged everything. It was tedious but gave me complete confidence in my numbers. Also, don't forget about any promotional credits or free bets you received! If you won money using bonus credits, those winnings are still taxable income even though you didn't technically risk your own money on that specific bet. One last tip - if you're close to the standard deduction threshold, run the numbers both ways (itemizing vs standard deduction) before deciding how to file. Sometimes the gambling loss deduction combined with other itemized deductions like state taxes or charitable contributions can push you over the standard deduction amount and save you money. The key is just staying organized and keeping everything documented. The IRS really does scrutinize gambling income, so better to be over-prepared!

I had a different experience with a similar situation. After discovering my 14-year-old's SSN was used fraudulently, I called the IRS Identity Protection Specialized Unit directly at 800-908-4490. They were able to take the report over the phone and actually initiated the IP PIN process for me without requiring the online verification that was rejecting us. They mailed the IP PIN to our address about 6 weeks later. No form 14039 needed in our case. Maybe different agents handle it differently?

This is such a stressful situation - I feel for you! I went through something similar with my 16-year-old daughter last year. One thing that really helped was keeping detailed records of every phone call, form submission, and correspondence with the IRS. Make sure to get confirmation numbers for everything and keep copies of all documents you send. The process can be slow, but having a paper trail helped when I had to follow up multiple times. Also, consider placing a fraud alert on your son's credit reports in addition to the credit freeze that was mentioned earlier. It's free and adds an extra layer of protection. You can do this even for minors by contacting the credit bureaus directly and explaining the situation. The IP PIN will definitely help prevent future tax fraud, but don't forget to monitor your son's credit reports annually going forward. Unfortunately, once a minor's SSN is compromised, vigilance becomes a long-term necessity. Stay strong - you're doing all the right things to protect your son!