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The whole PATH act is str8 🀑 stuff. Why they gotta hold our money hostage like this

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Facts! They quick to take it but slow to give it back smh

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Ethan Wilson

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Pro tip: stop checking WMR its usually behind. Check your transcript instead its more accurate

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Chloe Martin

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how do u even read those transcripts tho? its like trying to read hieroglyphics 😭

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CosmicCruiser

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@Chloe Martin honestly same! those codes and numbers make no sense to me. That taxr.ai thing @Sean O Donnell'mentioned might be worth checking out if it actually explains what all that transcript stuff means

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Mateo Rodriguez

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I've been following this thread and it's really helpful hearing everyone's experiences with OLT! I'm in a similar boat as Pedro - been using TurboTax forever but the cost keeps going up every year. One thing I haven't seen mentioned much is how OLT handles estimated quarterly payments if you have side gig income. Does anyone know if they provide the vouchers and calculate the amounts for next year's estimated payments like TurboTax does? That's been really convenient for my freelance work and I'd hate to lose that feature. Also, for those who made the switch - did you feel confident that your refund/tax owed amount was calculated correctly? I know some of you mentioned doing side-by-side comparisons, but I'm curious if anyone felt like they got a significantly different result between the two platforms that made them question the accuracy.

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NebulaNinja

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Great questions about the quarterly payments! Yes, OLT does handle estimated tax calculations and provides the vouchers for next year. When you complete your return, it calculates your expected tax liability for the following year based on your current year's income and suggests quarterly payment amounts. You can print the 1040ES vouchers right from the platform or make payments electronically through their system. It's not quite as polished as TurboTax's interface for this, but it gets the job done and saves you from having to calculate everything manually or use the IRS worksheets. As for accuracy, I did a side-by-side comparison my first year and the final numbers were identical between OLT and TurboTax - same refund amount, same tax owed. The main difference was just in how the information was presented and organized, but all the actual calculations matched up perfectly. That gave me a lot of confidence in making the permanent switch. I'd definitely recommend doing that comparison your first year if you're nervous about it!

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Dmitry Popov

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I made the switch from TurboTax to OLT last year and it's been great for my situation. I have investment income from multiple brokerages, rental property, and some consulting work on the side. The learning curve was minimal - maybe took an extra hour the first time through just to get familiar with their layout. One thing that really sold me was their transparent pricing. No surprise upgrades or "oh, you need Schedule C so that's an extra $40" nonsense like with TurboTax. Everything is included in their free federal filing. For investments, their import feature worked flawlessly with my Vanguard and TD Ameritrade accounts. The rental property section was comprehensive too - handled depreciation calculations and all the expense categories I needed. The only downside I noticed was their customer support is more limited than TurboTax, but honestly I didn't need to contact them at all. Their help articles were sufficient for the couple questions I had. Bottom line: saved me about $100+ compared to what TurboTax would have cost for the same tax situation, and the final numbers were exactly what I would have gotten with the more expensive option. Definitely worth trying, especially given the money you'll save.

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This is really reassuring to hear from someone with a similar tax situation! I'm curious about the import process you mentioned - did you have to manually download files from your brokerages first, or does OLT connect directly to pull the data? Also, when you say the final numbers matched what you would have gotten with TurboTax, did you actually run a comparison or is that just based on your confidence in the calculations? I'm leaning heavily toward making the switch after reading all these experiences, but want to make sure I understand the process fully before diving in.

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Paolo Longo

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Great question! As others have mentioned, you generally won't owe US taxes on transferring your own savings that were already earned and taxed overseas before you became a US resident. The transfer itself isn't a taxable event. However, I wanted to add a few practical tips for the actual transfer process: 1. **Documentation**: Keep detailed records of when you earned this money (pay stubs, tax returns from Japan) and proof that it was already taxed there. This will be helpful if the IRS ever has questions. 2. **Wire transfer considerations**: For $20k, a wire transfer is probably your best option, but be prepared for your US bank to ask questions about the source of funds due to anti-money laundering regulations. Have your Japanese employment documentation ready. 3. **Timing**: Since you're now a US resident, any interest earned on that Japanese account after your residency date would be taxable in the US. So it might make sense to transfer sooner rather than later to avoid complications with future interest income. 4. **FBAR filing**: Don't forget that if your Japanese account had over $10,000 at any point this year, you'll need to file FinCEN Form 114 by April 15 (with automatic extension to October 15). This is just reporting, not a tax. The key thing is that this is YOUR money that you already paid taxes on - you're just moving it from one account to another. Good luck with the transfer!

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NebulaNinja

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This is really comprehensive advice! One additional thing to consider is exchange rates and timing. When I transferred my savings from overseas, I lost quite a bit to unfavorable exchange rates and bank fees. You might want to look into using a service like Wise (formerly TransferWise) or Remitly instead of a traditional bank wire transfer. They typically offer much better exchange rates and lower fees than banks. For $20k, you could potentially save several hundred dollars in fees and get a better rate. Also, consider whether you want to transfer it all at once or break it into smaller amounts over time to potentially average out exchange rate fluctuations. Just make sure you're still meeting any FBAR reporting requirements regardless of how you structure the transfers.

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Lara Woods

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One thing I haven't seen mentioned yet is to be very careful about the timing of when you became a US tax resident versus when you earned this money in Japan. The IRS uses different tests (substantial presence test, green card test) to determine when you became a US person for tax purposes, and this might be different from when you physically moved or got your green card. If any portion of that $20k was earned AFTER you became a US tax resident (even if you were still physically working in Japan), that portion would be subject to US taxation as worldwide income. You'd need to look at the specific dates and possibly file amended returns if you haven't been reporting your Japanese income during any overlap period. Also, since you mentioned you got your green card last year, make sure you understand the first-year choice rules. Sometimes new residents can elect to be treated as US residents from an earlier date in their first year, which could affect how you report that Japanese income and when your worldwide income reporting obligation began. Given the complexity around timing and the potential for significant penalties if you get the foreign account reporting wrong, I'd really recommend consulting with a tax professional who specializes in international taxation, at least for this first year to make sure you're set up correctly going forward.

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This is such an important point about timing! I'm actually in a somewhat similar situation - got my green card in March last year but was still working overseas through June. I had no idea about the "first-year choice" rules you mentioned. Could you explain a bit more about how that works? If I elect to be treated as a US resident from an earlier date, would that mean I should have been reporting my overseas income even before I physically moved to the US? And if so, what are the implications for income I earned during that overlap period - would I need to file amended returns? I'm getting a bit worried that I might have messed something up on my taxes without realizing it. The green card test versus substantial presence test distinction is confusing me too.

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I was in almost the exact same situation last year - forgot a $650 1099-MISC from some consulting work. I agonized over it for weeks before finally deciding to amend. Here's what I learned: the IRS computer systems are really good at matching 1099s to tax returns, so they will eventually catch it. When they do, you'll get a CP2000 notice demanding the additional tax plus penalties and interest. For me, that would have meant turning a ~$140 tax bill into potentially $200+ with the 20% accuracy penalty. I ended up using TurboTax's amendment feature and it was honestly way easier than I expected. It imported all my original return info and I just had to add the missing 1099. Took maybe 45 minutes total including double-checking everything. The additional tax was $147 in my case. Filed it in March, got confirmation they received it in early May, and that was it. No audit, no scary letters, just peace of mind knowing I did the right thing. My advice: just bite the bullet and amend. The process isn't nearly as scary as it seems, and it's way better than waiting around wondering when they'll catch it. Plus you'll sleep better at night knowing your taxes are actually correct!

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Nolan Carter

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This is super reassuring to hear from someone who actually went through it! I've been overthinking this whole thing and your experience makes it sound much more straightforward than I was imagining. The $147 additional tax for a $650 1099 is really helpful context - seems like my $600 situation would be pretty similar. I keep going back and forth between "just amend it" and "maybe they won't notice" but you're absolutely right about the CP2000 notices and penalties. Better to pay ~$140 now than potentially $200+ later with all the added fees. Thanks for mentioning the timeline too - March filing with May confirmation gives me a good idea of what to expect. Going to stop second-guessing myself and get this done. The peace of mind alone will be worth it!

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I've been following this thread and all the experiences shared here really helped me make my decision. I was in a similar spot with a forgotten $580 1099-NEC and kept going back and forth on whether to amend or just hope it wouldn't be noticed. After reading everyone's real-world experiences - especially the stories about CP2000 notices and penalty calculations - it's clear that amending is the way to go. The math is pretty straightforward: pay ~$130 in additional tax now, or potentially pay $200+ later when they catch it through their automated matching systems. What really convinced me was hearing from people like Miguel and Zoe who actually went through the amendment process and found it much easier than expected. The 30-45 minute time investment using tax software seems totally manageable, and knowing that filing an amended return doesn't increase audit risk was a huge relief. Thanks to everyone who shared their experiences - both the people who amended and those who shared what happened when they didn't. Having real examples instead of just theoretical advice made all the difference in helping me decide to do this properly rather than play the waiting game!

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Logan Stewart

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As someone who recently went through this exact process as an executor, I wanted to add a few practical tips that really helped me stay organized: First, create a dedicated checking account for the trust if you haven't already. This makes tracking all trust-related income and expenses much cleaner for tax reporting. When you sell the house, having all the proceeds flow through the trust account creates a clear paper trail. Second, keep meticulous records of ALL expenses related to the property from the date of death forward. This includes utilities, insurance, property taxes, maintenance, realtor fees, staging costs, repairs, etc. Many of these are deductible against the sale proceeds and can significantly reduce the trust's taxable gain. Regarding timing - don't wait until the last minute to start preparing the 1041. The form is more complex than a typical 1040, and if you're distributing proceeds to multiple beneficiaries, you'll need to prepare K-1s for each of them. They'll need those K-1s to file their own returns, so getting this done early helps everyone. One last thing - if the sale happens late in 2023, consider whether it makes sense to distribute the proceeds to beneficiaries before year-end. If they're in lower tax brackets than the trust's compressed tax rates, this could save the family money overall. The trust tax brackets are much more compressed than individual rates, so trusts hit higher rates quickly. You're doing great navigating this complex process - it's a lot to handle but you'll get through it!

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NeonNova

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This is incredibly thorough advice - thank you! The point about the trust's compressed tax brackets is something I hadn't considered at all. I just looked it up and wow, trusts hit the highest tax rate at just over $14,000 of income while individuals don't reach that rate until much higher income levels. That's a huge difference! The dedicated trust checking account is brilliant advice too. I've been mixing some expenses with my personal accounts which is making record-keeping a nightmare. Setting up a separate account now will definitely make the tax prep much cleaner. Quick follow-up question - when you mention distributing proceeds before year-end to save on taxes, do you mean the beneficiaries would report the capital gain on their personal returns instead of the trust paying tax on it? And would that distribution need to be in cash, or could we distribute the property itself to avoid the capital gains altogether?

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QuantumQuest

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Exactly right! When the trust distributes capital gains to beneficiaries, they report it on their personal returns instead of the trust paying the tax. The trust files Form 1041 showing the gain and the distribution, then issues K-1s to each beneficiary showing their share of the gain. This can result in significant tax savings since individual tax brackets are much more generous than trust rates. Regarding your question about distributing property vs. cash - distributing the property itself (the house) to beneficiaries before selling could potentially avoid capital gains at the trust level entirely. The beneficiaries would receive the property with the stepped-up basis, and any subsequent sale would be taxed at their individual rates. However, this strategy has some important considerations: 1. All beneficiaries would need to agree to receive the property rather than cash 2. If multiple beneficiaries are involved, you'd need to figure out how to handle fractional ownership 3. The property distribution itself might have gift tax implications depending on the trust terms 4. State laws vary on how property distributions from trusts are handled This is definitely a situation where consulting with both a tax professional and an estate attorney would be valuable. The potential tax savings could be substantial, but you want to make sure you're following all the legal requirements for your specific trust and state. The separate checking account will make such a difference - I wish I'd done it from day one instead of trying to untangle everything later!

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Miguel Silva

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I'm going through a very similar situation right now as a first-time executor, and I wanted to share something that really helped clarify the timeline for me. The key thing I learned is that there are actually two separate deadlines you're dealing with: 1. Your father's final personal tax return (Form 1040) - due April 15, 2023 for his 2022 tax year 2. The trust's tax return (Form 1041) - due April 15, 2024 for the 2023 tax year when you sell the house What really helped me was understanding that the trust becomes a separate taxpaying entity the moment it becomes irrevocable (when your father passed). So even though there was no income in 2022 after he died, you'll still want to get that EIN for the trust as soon as possible since you'll need it for the house sale and eventual 1041 filing. One thing that caught me off guard was learning about Form 706 (estate tax return). If your father's total estate (including the house value) exceeds $12.92 million for 2023, you'd also need to file this by 9 months after death (with possible 6-month extension). Most people don't hit this threshold, but it's worth checking. Also, don't forget that as executor, you have some flexibility with timing. If you need more time to get everything organized for the 1041 when the time comes, trusts can get an automatic 5-month extension by filing Form 7004. The whole process feels overwhelming at first, but breaking it down into these separate filing requirements and deadlines really helped me create a manageable timeline. You've got this!

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Andre Moreau

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This breakdown is super helpful, especially the reminder about Form 706! I hadn't even thought about the estate tax return possibility. Fortunately, our family home isn't anywhere near that $12.92 million threshold, but it's good to know about just in case. The point about the trust becoming a separate entity immediately upon death is really important. I've been putting off getting the EIN thinking I could wait until closer to the sale, but you're right that I should get that done ASAP. It sounds like having that tax ID number established early will make everything else smoother down the line. I'm definitely feeling less overwhelmed after reading through everyone's responses here. Breaking it down into those distinct filing requirements - the final 1040, the future 1041, and making sure I have all the proper forms filed as executor - makes it feel much more manageable. Thanks for sharing your experience!

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