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Something similar happened to me last year, and it turned out my tax preparer had accidentally submitted my extension twice. Double-check with whoever prepared your taxes (if you used someone) before assuming the worst!
I prepared everything myself using TurboTax. This was definitely my first submission attempt. I called the Identity Protection Specialized Unit like someone suggested above, and they confirmed someone else tried filing with my SSN! Currently working through the identity theft affidavit process now. Thankfully I caught it early.
That's definitely more concerning then. Glad you called and confirmed! The earlier you catch these things and get the identity theft affidavit filed, the better. Make sure you also request an Identity Protection PIN from the IRS for next year - it's an extra 6-digit code that prevents anyone from filing electronically with your SSN without the PIN.
Quick question - does anyone know if filing the identity theft affidavit automatically extends your filing deadline? Or do I still need to submit a separate extension if this happens to me?
You absolutely still need to file the extension separately! The identity theft affidavit (Form 14039) doesn't extend your filing deadline. Make sure to submit Form 4868 by mail ASAP with "POTENTIAL IDENTITY THEFT" written at the top so they flag it for special processing.
From my experience working with tax issues, you should definitely file a complete and accurate return even if you've already paid some bills. What you received were probably automated notices based on partial information. When you file your complete return, make sure you include a statement explaining that you've already made payments in response to IRS notices. List the notice numbers, dates, and payment amounts. This helps the IRS properly credit your account. Also, keep in mind that for 2021 returns filed in 2025, you're still eligible for any refund due until April 15, 2025 (the three-year statute of limitations for refunds). So if you overpaid, you can still get that money back.
Thanks for this advice! Should I attach copies of the notices and payment confirmations to my return? And would it be better to file electronically or mail a paper return in my situation?
You don't need to attach copies of the notices to your return, but do keep them for your records. Instead, include a brief statement referencing the notice numbers and payment amounts on a separate sheet if filing by paper, or in the comments section if filing electronically. For your situation, electronic filing is generally better because it processes faster and you'll get confirmation of receipt. However, if your return is very late (which 2021 would be in 2025), some tax software may not support e-filing for prior years, so you might have to mail it. If mailing, definitely use certified mail with return receipt so you have proof of filing.
One thing nobody mentioned - if you get a refund from your 2021 return after all this, the IRS probably won't pay you interest on it since the late filing was your responsibility. But if you end up owing more, they'll definitely charge interest on the unpaid amount from the original due date. The IRS is generally reasonable about honest mistakes, but they're very strict about deadlines and required filings. I learned this the hard way when I missed filing for 2 years during a rough patch in my life.
Actually, the IRS does pay interest on refunds that are issued more than 45 days after the return is filed, even for late-filed returns. The interest rate changes quarterly. It's not a lot, but it's something. I filed my 2019 taxes super late and still got interest on my refund.
Something nobody's mentioned yet - if your brother had any self-employment income (like mowing lawns, babysitting, etc.) in addition to his W-2 job, the filing requirements are different. Self-employment income over $400 requires filing regardless of age or total income. Also, for future reference, your brother should check box "Exempt" on his W-4 if he expects to have no tax liability for the year. This is probably why no federal taxes were withheld - either he or his employer already did this.
That's a good point! He only has the restaurant job, no side gigs. But I'm not sure about the W-4 thing - I don't think he knew to check any specific box when he filled out his paperwork. Is that something the employer might have done automatically because of his age?
Employers shouldn't automatically mark anyone as exempt based on age alone. When your brother filled out his W-4, he would have had to specifically claim exemption from withholding by writing "Exempt" in the appropriate space. It's possible he did this without understanding it, or maybe the employer made an assumption based on his age and income level (which they shouldn't do). For his new W-4 this year, if he expects to earn more than the standard deduction ($12,950), he should definitely not claim exempt status, as he'll likely owe taxes.
One benefit of filing that no one mentioned - it starts the statute of limitations clock with the IRS. Without filing, the IRS theoretically has forever to come after you if they think you should have filed. I learned this the hard way when my son didn't file for his first job and got a notice 3 years later. It was a headache to resolve even though he didn't actually owe anything.
Just a heads up - IRS recently announced increased penalties for preparers who pull this kind of stuff. The "self-prepared" trick is actually super common and the IRS is cracking down on it hard. My advice? Take screenshots or photos of EVERYTHING related to this preparer - their office location, any business cards, the paperwork they gave your parents, texts or emails if you have them. The more evidence you can provide to the IRS the better. Also check if they have a PTIN (Preparer Tax Identification Number) - legitimate tax preparers are required to have one and include it on returns they prepare. Bet you anything this person doesn't have one or isn't including it to avoid accountability.
Thanks for the advice! I didn't even think about documenting the physical location. I'll definitely take pictures next time my parents go there. Do you know if there's a way to check if someone has a valid PTIN? I looked at the paperwork again and don't see any ID number for the preparer.
There's no public database where you can verify PTINs unfortunately. If the preparer didn't include their PTIN on the return where it asks for "Paid Preparer's Information," that's a violation of IRS requirements right there. Take photos of the office exterior, interior if possible, and any signage showing the business name. If they have a website or social media presence, screenshot those too - these operations sometimes disappear overnight when they get reported. Also, if your parents paid by anything other than cash, that bank or credit card statement is valuable evidence of them using this service.
Omg this happened to my sister last year! The "tax preparer" claimed she had a home office (she didn't) and business mileage for a non-existent business. She got a massive refund and was super happy until the IRS audit letter came 8 months later. She ended up having to pay back the refund PLUS penalties and interest. Just make sure your parents understand they're 100% responsible for what's on that return even if somebody else prepared it. The IRS doesn't care who filled it out - the person who signs it is on the hook.
Did your sister end up reporting the preparer too? Just curious if anything actually happens to these people when they get reported or if they just keep scamming others.
Keisha Williams
Just for clarification, codes P and J have specific meanings: - Code P: Distribution from a Roth IRA - Code J: Early distribution from a Roth IRA with no known exception (may be subject to 10% penalty) Together as "PJ", they indicate a early distribution from a Roth IRA that represents a return of excess contributions. The taxable amount of $270 is only the earnings portion. Your original contribution amount isn't taxable since Roth contributions are made with after-tax dollars. FreeTaxUSA knows what to do, but their interface isn't designed for combination codes. Use P as the primary code, then follow the prompts to indicate it was for return of excess contributions.
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Paolo Conti
ā¢Do you know if this would be the same process in TurboTax? I have a similar situation but use different software.
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Keisha Williams
ā¢Yes, the process is similar in TurboTax, though the screens look different. In TurboTax, you'll also enter code P first when asked for the distribution code. Then during the interview process, TurboTax will ask additional questions where you'll indicate it was a return of excess contributions. The underlying tax treatment is the same regardless of which software you use - the original contribution isn't taxable (since Roth contributions are after-tax), but the earnings are subject to income tax and potentially the 10% early withdrawal penalty depending on your age and situation.
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Amina Diallo
Random question - does anyone know if freetaxusa has an option to add an explanation in case of audit? I've got a similar situation with a 1099-R but mine has distribution code 1J and it's for a 401k hardship withdrawal. The software only lets me choose code 1.
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Oliver Schulz
ā¢Freetaxusa does have a section where you can add notes to your return. It's in the "Miscellaneous" section under "Notes" - you can add explanations there for your own records. However, these notes don't get transmitted to the IRS with your e-filed return. For your specific 1J code, you should use code 1 as the primary code, and then in the follow-up questions, indicate it was a hardship withdrawal if that option is available. The IRS receives the full 1099-R from your plan administrator with both codes, so they'll have the complete information.
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Amina Diallo
ā¢Thanks! I'll check out that notes section. Good to know the IRS still gets the full code information from the plan administrator. That makes me feel better about only being able to enter one code in the software.
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