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When this happened to me at State University, I asked them to show me exactly how they calculated what I owed. Turns out they were trying to collect for an extra 3 months before I became benefits-eligible! Check their math carefully - don't just accept whatever number they give you. Also, they should give you a detailed breakdown showing the exact pay periods affected, the amounts that should have been withheld, and how they're going to collect it. If they don't provide this automatically, request it in writing.
Thanks for the tip! I'll definitely ask for a detailed breakdown. Did you have to pay interest on top of the missing FICA taxes?
No, I didn't have to pay any interest. Since it was their error, they only collected the actual missing FICA amounts. They initially tried to include interest in their calculation, but I pushed back and pointed out that their own policy stated that administrative errors shouldn't result in additional costs to employees. I'd recommend checking your university's HR policies on payroll errors. Most have some language about how corrections should be handled, and this might give you some leverage if they try to charge interest or penalties.
Just a heads up - make sure you're saving extra money from each paycheck for the rest of the year! When this happened to me, the sudden drop in take-home pay (both from the new correct withholding AND the back payments) really messed up my budget. I wasn't prepared for my paycheck to be almost 12% smaller.
Good point. When my company had a similar FICA withholding error, I adjusted my W-4 to reduce other withholding temporarily while I was paying back the FICA. You can increase your allowances slightly to offset some of the pain if needed.
Something important nobody mentioned yet - when filing an amendment to change from MFS to MFJ, make sure your preparer includes BOTH of your original separate returns with the amendment. A friend of mine had their amendment rejected because they only included one spouse's original return. Also, your preparer should be using Form 1040-X and checking the box that indicates you're changing your filing status. They'll need to complete all three columns (original amount, net change, correct amount) for each line item that's changing. And definitely double-check that your kids are properly claimed with their SSNs!
This is really helpful! I don't think he included both our original returns when he did the first amendment - that might be part of the problem. Should I be asking for copies of everything before he submits? I'm worried if I don't see it beforehand, I'll end up with another mistake.
Absolutely request copies of EVERYTHING before he submits! You should get: 1) The complete Form 1040-X 2) Any supporting schedules that have changed 3) A copy of both your original separate returns that are being attached 4) Any worksheets he used to calculate the new numbers Review each form carefully and make sure your children are properly listed with their names and SSNs on the appropriate form. Check that the "net change" column accurately reflects the difference between your original filing and the corrected amounts. Don't let him submit anything until you've had a chance to review it all. Given his track record, you're right to be cautious!
Has anyone mentioned that you can actually do this amendment yourself? Since you're not confident in this tax preparer, you might consider DIY. For a filing status change from MFS to MFJ, you'll need: 1) Form 1040-X 2) Both original tax returns 3) A newly completed joint return (as if you had filed jointly originally) The form has instructions, and you can call the IRS with questions. I did this exact amendment last year (changing from MFS to MFJ for 2020) and while it was a bit tedious, it wasn't actually difficult. And I felt better knowing I had control over the process.
I did this too but recommend using tax software if you go this route. I used TaxAct for my amendment (changing from single to head of household) and it walked me through everything step by step. It was much easier than trying to figure out all the forms myself.
Something else to consider - since you're a SAHM with 2 kids, make sure your husband is claiming the right filing status and claiming the Child Tax Credit for both children. Also look into the Child and Dependent Care Credit if you have any qualifying expenses. These can significantly reduce what you owe. Also, if your husband is truly self-employed (getting 1099s, not W-2s), he should absolutely be making quarterly estimated tax payments going forward. This will prevent this problem next year. The IRS has a worksheet to figure out how much he should pay each quarter.
Thanks for bringing this up! We are claiming the Child Tax Credit for both kids, but I'm not sure if we've maxed it out. My husband does get 1099s and I know he needs to do the quarterly payments but honestly we never knew how to calculate them properly. Is there a simple formula to figure out roughly how much we should set aside from each check?
A simple rule of thumb is to set aside about 25-30% of his 1099 income for taxes. This covers both income tax and self-employment tax (which is roughly 15.3% alone). For proper quarterly payments, you can use the IRS Form 1040-ES worksheet, which helps calculate your required payments based on expected income. The due dates are April 15, June 15, September 15, and January 15 of the following year. Setting up a separate savings account just for taxes can be really helpful - deposit that percentage from each check immediately before you're tempted to spend it.
Has anyone mentioned that as a contractor, your husband could possibly open a SEP IRA or Solo 401k? Contributing to retirement can lower your taxable income significantly. It might be too late for last year, but definitely something to consider for this year to avoid a repeat situation!
This is great advice! I'm a contractor too and opened a SEP IRA last year. Was able to contribute almost 20% of my income and it dropped me into a lower tax bracket. Saved me thousands.
Something important that hasn't been mentioned yet - make sure you document everything about your business growth strategy. If you're keeping profits in the business for expansion, have a written business plan that outlines your capital needs, timeline for growth, and eventual transition strategy. This documentation becomes critical if you're ever questioned about why you took minimal/no salary. Courts have repeatedly sided with business owners who can demonstrate legitimate business purposes for retaining earnings versus those who just seem to be avoiding payroll taxes. Also, consider having your board of directors (even if it's just you wearing different hats) formally approve your compensation and capital retention strategy in corporate minutes. These formal governance steps make your intentions much clearer if scrutinized later.
This is really helpful advice. I hadn't thought about documenting the strategy formally. Is there a specific format you'd recommend for this kind of business plan? Also, does the board approval need to happen annually or just once when implementing the strategy?
There's no required format, but I'd recommend including projected capital needs, specific growth milestones, timeline for expansion, and how the retained earnings will be used. Make it clear this is a temporary strategy until the business can support you full-time. Board approvals should definitely happen annually. At minimum, you should have annual minutes documenting review of the compensation strategy and business progress. Each year, note how the retained capital is being used toward your stated goals and reaffirm the strategy. This creates a pattern of consistent business purpose rather than looking like an afterthought if questioned.
Has anyone actually been audited for NOT taking a salary from their S-corp? I've been running mine for 3 years and taking distributions but no salary (I know, I know) and haven't had any issues. Wondering if this is one of those things tax professionals warn about but rarely happens?
YES! My brother-in-law got absolutely hammered for this exact situation. Ran his consulting S-corp for 2 years taking zero salary and only distributions. Got audited, and the IRS reclassified ALL his distributions as salary, meaning he owed back payroll taxes plus penalties and interest. Cost him over $30k when all was said and done. They specifically target S-corps for this issue because it's such a common tax avoidance strategy.
Admin_Masters
Something no one mentioned yet - you can also file Form 4852 (Substitute for Form W-2) with your tax return. Since you have your last pay stub, you should have most of the info you need. My husband had to do this last year when his employer went bankrupt and nobody was answering phones. We just filled out the form with the info from his last paystub and filed it along with our tax return. We didn't have any issues with the IRS accepting it. Just be aware that you might get a letter from the IRS later if the numbers don't match exactly what the employer reported, but you can deal with that if it happens.
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Jasmine Quinn
โขThanks for bringing up Form 4852! I actually didn't know about that option. So if I use my last pay stub to fill out this form, do I need to do anything special when filing my taxes? Like do I need to mail my return instead of e-filing?
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Admin_Masters
โขYou might need to mail in your return instead of e-filing if you're including Form 4852. Some tax software allows you to e-file with this form, but others don't. We ended up mailing ours to be safe. Also make sure you fill out Section 3 of the form explaining why you're filing a substitute W-2 and what efforts you made to get the original (like your phone calls and emails to the company).
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Matthew Sanchez
If none of these options work out, remember there's one last resort - you can file for an extension using Form 4868. This doesn't give you more time to pay (you'd still owe interest on unpaid taxes), but it gives you until October 15, 2023 to file your 2022 return. That might give you more time to track down your W-2 info. Just making sure you know all your options!
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Ella Thompson
โขUnfortunately that won't help in this case since they're trying to file 2022 taxes now in 2023/2024. They're already past the extension deadline. They need to file ASAP to minimize penalties.
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