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For what it's worth, I pay about $650 for my tax preparation with a local CPA. I have a regular W-2 job, a rental property, and some stock investments. She always finds enough deductions to more than cover her fee compared to when I was doing them myself. The big value for me isn't just filing correctly - it's having someone to call throughout the year when I have tax questions (like when I was thinking about selling some property, she helped me understand the capital gains implications before I made any decisions).
Do you meet with your CPA in person or is it all virtual? I've been thinking about using someone out of state because they're cheaper than local options but wondered if that creates any issues.
I started with in-person meetings pre-pandemic, but we've been completely virtual for the past two years and it works great. I upload all my documents to her secure portal, we have a video call to discuss any questions, and then she prepares everything. For your situation, using someone out of state can work fine for federal taxes, but just make sure they're familiar with your state's tax laws if you have state income tax. My CPA specializes in my state's property tax rules which is helpful for my rental, but if you don't have special state circumstances, location probably doesn't matter much.
I paid $275 at H&R Block last year and felt totally ripped off. The preparer just typed in exactly what I told her and didn't offer any advice or suggestions. Later found out I missed several deductions I qualified for. Now I use a local CPA who charges $500 but she found me $1800 in deductions H&R missed!
Those tax prep chains are so hit or miss. My parents got a great preparer at Jackson Hewitt for years but when that person left, the new person missed tons of stuff. I think it really depends on the individual preparer's experience more than the company.
Exactly! I think that's the problem - these big chains hire seasonal workers, give them minimal training, and then put them to work. Some might be great if they happen to have background knowledge, but many just follow the software prompts. My CPA actually takes continuing education courses every year to stay current on tax laws and asks me thoughtful questions about my situation that the H&R Block person never considered. She caught that I could deduct some medical expenses and home office deductions that were completely missed before.
I see a lot of people talking about the tax benefits, but there's another angle to consider. Your parents might be counting on that dependent deduction for their overall family budget. Have you tried asking your dad how much he's saving by claiming you? $800 feels like a lot to you, but he might be saving $2000+ on his taxes. What about proposing a compromise where he still claims you but reimburses you for the $800? That way he still gets whatever additional benefit there is, but you're not out any money. And it avoids the awkward discussion about whether you're "independent" or not, which can be touchy for some parents.
I never thought about it that way. The reason I was hesitant to bring it up is because I didn't want to cause tension, but a compromise could work. Do you think there's a tactful way to bring up this reimbursement idea without sounding like I'm just asking for money?
Approach it as a practical math problem rather than an emotional issue. Say something like: "Dad, I noticed that being claimed as a dependent is costing me $800 in taxes this year. I understand it probably saves our family more overall, but that's a big hit for me. Could we look at the numbers together and find a fair solution? Maybe you could help cover some of what I'm losing?" Most parents don't realize the tax impact on their working teens. Frame it as working together to maximize the family's overall financial situation. This makes it about smart family finances rather than independence or money-grabbing. Avoid phrases like "it's not fair" and stick to the practical impacts.
something nobody mentioned - are you a full-time student? if you're 17 and in high school then your dad probably legally CAN claim you as a dependent. but if you're providing more than half your own support (rent, food, etc) with that 50k, then he might not legally be allowed to claim you. the IRS has tests for this. also, what are you doing making 50k at 17?? im jealous lol. i'm 22 and only making 42k with a college degree. whatever you're doing, keep it up!
This is important! The "support test" is key here. If OP is providing more than half of their own support, the parent might not legally be able to claim them regardless of age or living situation. The IRS has a worksheet for calculating this.
Just to add to what others have said, if you really want to dig into the technical details, check out Internal Revenue Code Section 404(a) which specifically addresses deductibility of employer contributions to pension plans. The language there supports that these are above-the-line deductions on Schedule 1 for self-employed individuals. Also, IRS Form 8606 instructions sometimes have helpful cross-references for retirement plan contributions, even though the form itself is focused on nondeductible IRA contributions.
Thanks for this reference! I've been searching the code sections but didn't think to look at 404(a) specifically. Do you know if there's a clear distinction in the code between contributions for the owner vs employees? That's where I kept getting confused.
The key distinction is in Section 404(a)(8) which specifically addresses contributions by self-employed individuals. It essentially treats the business owner as both employer and employee for retirement plan purposes. For employees, the deduction is a business expense because you're paying it as the employer. For yourself, it's an adjustment to income on Schedule 1 because you can't technically "employ" yourself as a sole proprietor.
Quick question for anyone - my tax software keeps putting my solo 401k contributions (the employer portion) on Schedule C rather than Schedule 1. Should I override it? I'm a Schedule C filer with no employees.
Which software are you using? I had the same issue with TurboTax last year and had to manually override it. The correct place is definitely Schedule 1, Line 16 for both portions of your solo 401k (employee and employer contributions).
Have you considered a cost segregation study for your property purchase? While you can't count the purchase for 2022, you can potentially accelerate depreciation for certain components of the property when you file your 2023 taxes next year. We did this with our office building and were able to significantly front-load the tax benefits rather than waiting 39 years for the full depreciation.
That's really interesting! I hadn't considered cost segregation. Do you know roughly what percentage of the property value you were able to accelerate the depreciation on? And did you use a specialized firm for the study or was it something your regular accountant handled?
We were able to accelerate depreciation on about 25-30% of our property value, which made a substantial difference in our first-year deductions. The components included things like specialized electrical systems, certain fixtures, landscaping elements, and some interior components that could be depreciated over 5-15 years instead of the standard 39 years for commercial property. We used a specialized engineering firm that works alongside our accountant for the study. While it cost around $4,500 for our $750k property, the tax savings in the first few years more than covered this expense. Your regular accountant likely won't have the engineering expertise to properly classify all building components, so I'd recommend finding a firm that specializes specifically in cost segregation studies.
Might be unpopular advice, but have you considered buying the property personally instead of through your C-Corp? The tax treatment can sometimes be more favorable if you buy it personally and then lease it to your corporation. You'd get rental income (which can be offset by depreciation) while your C-Corp gets a rent expense deduction. Just something to consider.
This is actually really good advice depending on your overall situation. My tax attorney suggested this exact approach, and it's worked out much better for me tax-wise. The corporation gets the full deduction for rent payments, and I can take advantage of depreciation plus potential appreciation personally. Just make sure to set a fair market rent to avoid IRS scrutiny.
Summer Green
Something important nobody's mentioned: S-Corps require you to maintain certain corporate formalities. You need to: - Have an operating agreement - Keep minutes of meetings - Maintain separate business bank accounts - File separate tax forms (Form 1120-S) I learned this the hard way when I got audited! The IRS disallowed my S-Corp because I wasn't following the proper formalities. Cost me over $12k in back taxes. Dont make my mistake!!!
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Dominique Adams
ā¢Thanks so much for mentioning this! What kind of records specifically did you need to keep that you weren't keeping? I'm trying to understand how much additional paperwork I'll be taking on if I make the switch.
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Summer Green
ā¢For the operating agreement, you need formal corporate bylaws that outline how the business operates. You'll need to hold annual shareholder meetings (even if you're the only shareholder) and keep written minutes of those meetings documenting major business decisions. You'll also need to file Form 1120-S (the S-Corp tax return) annually, plus provide K-1 forms to all shareholders showing their share of profits. You must maintain completely separate finances - separate bank accounts, credit cards, and clear documentation of all money moving between you personally and the business. My big mistake was taking money from the business without properly documenting whether it was salary or distributions. The IRS sees this as co-mingling funds and can use it to invalidate your S-Corp status.
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Gael Robinson
Does anyone know if you can have an S-Corp with multiple business activities? Like I have a consulting business but also do some ecommerce sales... can one s-corp cover both?
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Marilyn Dixon
ā¢Yes, you can have multiple business activities under one S-Corp. The key is proper accounting and record-keeping to track income and expenses for each activity. You'll report everything on one tax return but you may need to use different business codes and complete certain schedules to properly categorize the different revenue streams.
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