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Make sure to check if you're eligible for what's called a "partial exclusion" due to unforeseen circumstances. IRS Publication 523 specifically mentions divorce as a qualifying event. The calculation would be: (months you owned and lived in home รท 24) ร $250,000 So if you lived there 10 months: (10 รท 24) ร $250,000 = $104,166 exclusion With your gain being so small after seller costs, this partial exclusion would likely cover all of it, meaning zero tax owed. TurboTax probably isn't capturing this special circumstance correctly.
This is really helpful! Is this something I need to manually override in TurboTax? Or is there a specific section where I should be entering this information?
In TurboTax, you need to look for the section about "home sale" or "sale of home" and there should be questions about how long you owned and used the home. When it asks why you sold before meeting the 2-year requirement, select "divorce" or "unforeseen circumstances." If you can't find this option, you might need to use the "form view" rather than the interview format. Look for Form 2119 in TurboTax. If you're still having trouble, the "Help" search function in TurboTax and searching for "partial exclusion" should guide you to the right section.
One thing nobody's mentioned - make sure you're only reporting YOUR share of the sale on your taxes! If you owned it 50/50 with your ex, you should only be reporting half the purchase price, half the selling price, and half the expenses. This alone could be causing the calculation to be way off.
This! When I got divorced last year, my accountant made this exact point. Each person files their own portion. Your gain would be even smaller if split properly.
Thank you for pointing this out! I think this might be part of the problem because I was trying to figure out how to split everything in TurboTax and wasn't sure if I was doing it right. So I should be reporting only half of everything - half the purchase price, half the selling price, and half of all the associated costs?
One tip from someone who's been doing survey sites for years - create a simple spreadsheet tracking all your survey income throughout the year. I list date, survey site name, survey ID or description, and amount paid. Makes tax time so much easier! Also, you can use the IRS free file options if your income is under their threshold. I use FreeTaxUSA which handles Schedule C and SE really well for this type of situation. Don't pay for expensive software if you don't need to!
Do you need to include any kind of documentation or proof of the survey income when you file? Or do you just report the total amount? I'm worried about getting audited.
You just report the total amount on your tax forms - no need to attach any documentation when filing. But you should absolutely keep records (payment screenshots, spreadsheet of earnings, withdrawal confirmations) for at least 3 years in case of an audit. Don't stress too much about audits - they're rare, especially for simple returns with modest income. The key is being honest about reporting ALL income and having reasonable documentation to back it up if ever questioned. My spreadsheet plus screenshots of payment summaries from each site has been more than sufficient for the past 5 years.
Does anyone know if you need different business codes for different types of online income? I do surveys but also product testing and user testing websites which pay more. Should these be on separate Schedule Cs or combined?
I combine all my "opinion-based" work on one Schedule C. The business code I use is 541910 for "Marketing Research and Public Opinion Polling" which covers surveys and user testing. If your activities are all related to giving opinions and testing, one Schedule C is fine. If you have very different activities (like surveys + selling crafts), then separate them.
Another thing to consider is that your activity might be classified as a business rather than a hobby depending on how regularly you're doing this and how much profit you're making. The IRS has a "hobby loss rule" where if you don't show profit in 3 out of 5 years, they might classify it as a hobby and limit your deductions. In your case, since you're actually profiting after the cash back, you should probably treat it as a business. The upside is you can deduct legitimate expenses like maybe a home office portion, shipping costs, secure storage, etc. The downside is you'll need to pay self-employment tax on your profits.
That's a good point about the business vs. hobby classification. I'm definitely making a consistent profit when you factor in the cash back, and I've been doing this for about 2 years now. Do you think I need to register as an actual business in California, or is just filing Schedule C enough?
Filing Schedule C is enough for federal tax purposes, but California may have additional requirements. If you're operating as a sole proprietor (just yourself), you typically don't need a formal business registration with the state unless your local county/city requires business licenses for your type of activity. However, if your annual gross receipts are over $100,000, you might need to register for a seller's permit with the California Department of Tax and Fee Administration, even for gold coins. I'd recommend checking with your county clerk's office about any local business license requirements as they vary by locality. Better to be compliant from the start than face penalties later. Given the nature of dealing with valuable items like gold coins, being properly registered might also give your customers more confidence.
Just my 2 cents, but you should also look into whether your credit card company might issue a 1099-MISC if your cash back rewards exceed a certain threshold (usually $600). Some banks treat large rewards as miscellaneous income rather than rebates, especially for business cards. I had this happen with my Amex business card last year when I got like $800 in rewards from a similar type of reselling operation. The 1099 made it pretty clear I needed to report it as income.
This is incorrect. Cash back on purchases is considered a discount or rebate, not reportable income, even if it exceeds $600. Banks only issue 1099s for referral bonuses, sign-up bonuses, or interest income - not for cash back on purchases. The IRS views cash back as effectively reducing the purchase price.
I think there's a simple explanation for all this. The IRS probably assumes everyone knows the formula is: 1. Subtract your MAGI from the phase-out ceiling 2. Divide by the phase-out range ($20,000) 3. Multiply by the maximum contribution For 2023: ($136,000 - your MAGI) รท $20,000 ร $6,500 = your deduction For 2024: ($143,000 - your MAGI) รท $20,000 ร $7,000 = your deduction That's why being $0.01 over the threshold with the old formula feels so harsh - because the old formula was simplifying this calculation for the specific $6,000 limit.
Thank you! This makes perfect sense and matches what I was expecting the formula would be! I've been driving myself crazy with spreadsheets trying to figure this out. So basically, the formula is proportional to where you fall in the phase-out range, and the multiplier changes based on the contribution limit. That would explain why the TIAA calculator was giving different results than my calculations using the 0.3 factor from 2022.
Exactly! The IRS documentation just hasn't caught up with the contribution limit increases. The key insight is that the phase-out is designed to be linear across the MAGI range, so you need to adjust the multiplier whenever the contribution limit changes. It's frustrating that they don't explain this clearly, but at least now you can plan appropriately for your 2023 and 2024 contributions. And remember this formula will likely change again whenever they next increase the contribution limits!
Has anyone noticed that the Retirement Savings Contributions Credit (Saver's Credit) also has updated income thresholds for 2023 and 2024? This can be relevant if you're in the phase-out range for IRA deductions, as you might still qualify for this credit depending on your income level. For 2023, the income limit for married filing jointly is $73,000, and for 2024 it's $76,500. Just something to consider as part of your overall retirement savings strategy if your MAGI is in that range.
Lauren Zeb
Don't forget about state filings too! Your S-Corp likely needs to file a state return in addition to the federal 1120-S. Many states have different deadlines and requirements, and some have minimum franchise taxes even if you didn't make any profit. I learned this the hard way my first year and got hit with penalties.
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Grace Lee
โขOh man, I completely forgot about state filings! I'm in California - do you know if they have different forms or deadlines than the federal?
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Lauren Zeb
โขCalifornia is actually one of the toughest states for S-corps. You need to file Form 100S, and they have an $800 minimum franchise tax that you have to pay even if your business lost money. The deadline typically matches the federal (March 15), but the penalties for late filing can be significant. You should also check if you need to file a Statement of Information with the Secretary of State (Form SI-200) - that's separate from tax filings but required for corporations, usually due annually.
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Daniel Washington
One major thing nobody's mentioned yet - make sure you've been tracking and paying quarterly estimated taxes throughout the year. As an S-corp owner, the company's profits pass through to your personal return, but without withholding like a regular job. If this is your first year and you haven't been making estimated payments, you might get hit with underpayment penalties.
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Aurora Lacasse
โขIs there any safe harbor provision for this? Like if it's your first year in business?
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