Filling out W4 for first job as a teen - what to put for 'estimate of total wages' when I haven't made money yet?
I'm so lost filling out this W4 form for my first job at the local grocery store. Nobody in my family seems to know how to help me with this stuff either. I'm 16 and this is my first real job with actual taxes and paperwork. The form is asking for my "estimate of total wages for tax year 2025" but how am I supposed to know that when I literally haven't started working yet? I'll be working part-time during school and maybe more hours in summer, but I have no clue how much I'll end up making. I also don't know what to put for the last section about additional withholding or claiming dependents. Should I just leave everything blank? Will I get in trouble if I guess wrong? My orientation is tomorrow and they said to bring this completed W4. I'm freaking out a little because I don't want to mess up my taxes before I even get my first paycheck!
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Liam O'Reilly
Hey there! I remember feeling the exact same way with my first W4. It's totally normal to be confused, so don't worry! For the "estimate of total wages" section, you just need to make your best guess. Think about how many hours you'll work each week and multiply by your hourly rate. For example, if you'll work 15 hours a week at $15/hour, that's about $225/week or roughly $11,700 for a year. It doesn't have to be perfect - this is just to help determine your withholding. For the dependent section, as a teen, you'll likely be claimed as a dependent on your parents' taxes, so you would check that box. For additional withholding, you can leave that at zero if this is your only job. The good news is that you can always submit a new W4 later if your circumstances change or if you realize your estimate was way off. The form is just a starting point for calculating how much tax to withhold from each paycheck.
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Aria Washington
•Thanks so much! That actually makes a lot of sense. So if I'm getting paid $14/hour and probably working around 12 hours a week during school and maybe 25 hours during summer break, I can just calculate a rough estimate? Also, what happens if I earn more or less than my estimate? Will I get in trouble with the IRS or something?
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Liam O'Reilly
•Yes, that's exactly right! Just do the math for a rough estimate: 12 hours × $14 = $168/week during school weeks (maybe 40 weeks), and 25 hours × $14 = $350/week during summer (maybe 12 weeks). So approximately $6,720 for school weeks plus $4,200 for summer weeks gives you around $10,920 for the year. That's a perfectly fine estimate to put down. Don't worry about earning more or less than your estimate. You won't get in trouble at all! This estimate just helps your employer calculate initial tax withholding. When you file your tax return next year, everything gets reconciled based on what you actually earned, not what you estimated.
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Chloe Delgado
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Ryan Kim
I had the same question when I got my first job! My sister told me to just ask the HR person at orientation and they helped me fill it out on the spot. Most companies understand that new workers (especially teens) need help with this stuff. Don't stress too much about getting the estimate perfect. The hourly calculation method others mentioned works well, but if you're really unsure, just ask your manager how many hours they expect to schedule you for. They usually have a pretty good idea. Also worth knowing - if you're a student and won't make more than $12,950 in 2025, you might not even need to file a tax return. But still fill out the W4 correctly since your employer needs it.
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Zoe Walker
•Actually that $12,950 figure is outdated. For 2025 the filing threshold for dependents with earned income is estimated to be around $13,850 due to inflation adjustments. But you're right about the general point - many teen workers won't hit the filing requirement.
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Ryan Kim
•Thanks for the correction! You're right that the numbers adjust each year with inflation. The important thing for the original poster to understand is that there's a threshold below which filing isn't required, but that doesn't change the need to complete the W4 accurately for employer withholding purposes.
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Elijah Brown
Has anyone used the IRS withholding calculator online? I found it pretty helpful for filling out my W4.
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Maria Gonzalez
•I tried using it but got super confused by all the questions. Maybe I'm not tech savvy enough but it seemed to assume I knew a lot of tax terminology already. Ended up just taking my best guess on the W4.
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