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Don't forget about estimated tax payments for next year! With income this high, you need to be making quarterly payments or you'll get hit with underpayment penalties. My business income jumped dramatically in 2023 and I got slapped with almost $4,000 in penalties because I didn't realize this. The IRS expects you to pay as you earn, not just at tax time.
This is actually really helpful - I had no idea about the quarterly thing. How do I figure out how much to pay each quarter if my income isn't consistent? My construction projects vary a lot month to month.
You have a couple of options for calculating your estimated payments. The safest method is paying 100% of your previous year's tax (or 110% if your income was over $150,000). This gives you a "safe harbor" from penalties even if you end up owing more. If your income fluctuates, you can use the "annualized income installment method" using Form 2210. This lets you make payments based on what you actually earned in each period rather than 25% each quarter. Most construction businesses have seasonal fluctuations, so this might work better for you. A good tax software or accountant can help you run these calculations.
Honestly at your income level, you should be talking to a tax ATTORNEY, not just a CPA. They can help you set up more advanced strategies like captive insurance companies, cost segregation studies if you buy commercial property, or even set up a management company with a defined benefit plan. These are all legit strategies but they need professional setup. I learned this the hard way after DIYing my taxes when my business hit 7 figures.
Completely agree - especially for construction. My brother's construction company got hammered in an audit because they hadn't structured things correctly. Not worth the risk when you're dealing with this kind of money. A good tax attorney will save you way more than they cost.
Have you tried using the override function in TurboTax? I had a similar issue last year, and there's a way to tell the software to ignore certain validation warnings if you're confident your information is correct. Look for an option like "I'm sure my information is correct, continue anyway" or something similar on the error screen. Sometimes it's hidden behind a "more options" button. This worked for me when I had a situation where my state withholding was calculated differently than federal.
Where exactly is this override option? I'm staring at the error screen right now and don't see anything like that. Is it only in certain versions of TurboTax?
It's not always obvious - look for small text links near the bottom of the error message that say something like "I want to continue anyway" or "Override this warning." Sometimes you have to click on "Why am I seeing this?" first, and then the override option appears. If you're using the downloadable version, it might be under "Tools" ā "Options" ā "Error checking" where you can adjust the sensitivity level. For the online version, sometimes you need to click on a "More options" or "What should I do?" link that expands additional choices.
Before you go crazy with workarounds, double check if you accidentally duplicated some income on your state return that's not on your federal. I made this exact mistake - entered my W-2 income twice on my California return but only once on federal. Drove me nuts for days until I spotted it!
This!! I had the same issue. Check if you accidentally entered a 1099 or W-2 twice in the state section. TurboTax's interface makes this so easy to do by accident.
One thing nobody's mentioned yet - make sure you understand if these are profits interests or capital interests. They're taxed very differently. Profits interests generally have no value at grant (only future value), while capital interests have value on day one. With profits interests, you typically don't need to pay taxes upon receipt, but with capital interests you might. Also check if these units have any "threshold" amount. Some LLC units only pay out after the company reaches a certain valuation, which affects their current value and tax treatment.
Thanks for bringing this up! How would I know if I have profits interests vs capital interests? The agreement uses the term "restricted incentive units" throughout and mentions something about only being eligible for distributions after I've vested and after all capital contributions have received a return of some percentage. Does that sound like profits interests?
That definitely sounds like profits interests based on the language about distributions only happening after capital contributions receive their return. This is good news tax-wise! Profits interests are designed to give you a share of future growth without taxing you on existing value. The "after all capital contributions have received a return" language is classic profits interest structure - it means your units only have value after the existing investors get their money back plus some preferred return. Just make sure you understand the vesting schedule and any potential acceleration clauses. Also, check if your company will provide tax distribution provisions to cover any phantom income that might be allocated to you.
Your situation sounds confusing, but I think the biggest tax issue with LLC equity that nobody's mentioned is self-employment tax. When you're a partner in an LLC, you might owe self-employment tax (15.3%) on your allocated income. This is significantly higher than the regular employment taxes you're used to as a W-2 employee (7.65%, with the employer paying the other 7.65%).
Make sure you keep copies of EVERYTHING you send to the IRS! I went through a similar situation with a filing status issue a couple years ago. I sent in all my documentation and then they claimed they never received it. Had to send it all in again and it delayed my refund by another 3 months. Also, when you mail your response, use certified mail with return receipt so you have proof they received it. Trust me on this one.
That's really good advice. I'm definitely going to make copies of everything. Do you know if I should be including my original tax returns with the response or just the supporting documentation for the head of household status?
Just include the supporting documentation for Head of Household status, not your entire original returns. The IRS already has your returns in their system. Focus on providing proof that you provided more than half the support for your mom and sister and that they lived with you. Include a copy of the notice they sent you with your response. Write your Social Security number on every page you send them. And definitely use certified mail with return receipt - that saved me when they tried claiming they never received my documents.
Just curious - when you amended your return, did you file Form 1040X? And did you check the Head of Household box on line 4 of that form? That's where a lot of people make mistakes with amended returns.
Yes, I filed Form 1040X for the amendment, but looking back at my copy, I see I checked the "Single" box on line 4 again. I was so focused on adding the dependents and credits that I completely missed changing the filing status. Rookie mistake I guess.
That explains exactly what happened then. When you amend a return, you need to check the correct filing status for your situation on Form 1040X, even if you're not changing your filing status from the original return. Since you were adding dependents, you should have updated to Head of Household. The good news is this is fixable. As others have mentioned, respond to the notice with proof that you qualified for Head of Household (provided more than half support, they lived with you more than half the year). The IRS will recalculate your taxes based on the correct filing status.
AstroAlpha
Just wanted to add - if u want to adjust withholding without claiming fake dependents, use the IRS Tax Withholding Estimator: https://www.irs.gov/individuals/tax-withholding-estimator It helps you figure out the right withholding amount based on ur specific situation. It'll tell you exactly how to fill out your W-4 correctly. The goal is to get as close to zero as possible on your tax return - not owing a ton or getting a huge refund. And its FREE lol.
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Diego Chavez
ā¢Does that calculator thing work for people with multiple jobs or side gig income? I always struggle with getting my withholding right because I have my main job plus some freelance stuff.
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AstroAlpha
ā¢Yes, it definitely works for multiple jobs and side gig income! The calculator has specific sections where you can enter income from different sources, including self-employment. The tool is actually really good at handling complex situations like yours. It will ask about all your income streams and help calculate the right withholding amount. For freelance income, it'll even help determine if you need to make estimated tax payments throughout the year to avoid penalties.
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Anastasia Smirnova
my dad always told me to claim 0 dependents even tho i have 2 kids so i get a bigger refund. is that even legal? been doing it for years lol
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Sean O'Brien
ā¢That's actually the opposite issue but still not ideal. Claiming 0 when you have 2 qualified dependents means you're having TOO MUCH withheld. It's legal but you're giving the government an interest-free loan of your money throughout the year. You'd be better off claiming your actual dependents and putting that extra money to work for you each month.
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