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Something else to consider - if you're close to the QBI income thresholds ($340,100 for MFJ in 2025), including or excluding certain activities can impact whether you face the limitations based on W-2 wages or qualified property. In some cases, it might actually be beneficial to include losses to bring your total QBI under the threshold. Tax planning for QBI isn't always intuitive!
Good point! Our AGI is actually around $325,000 so we're approaching that threshold. Does that change your recommendation on whether we should include the rental losses in QBI or not?
Since you're still below the threshold (but approaching it), you still likely benefit from excluding the rental losses from QBI. At your income level, you can take the full 20% deduction on positive QBI without the wage/property limitations. If including rental losses would reduce your positive QBI from your wife's self-employment, then excluding them makes perfect sense. However, if your income rises above the threshold in future years, the calculation becomes more complex, and including some loss activities might occasionally be beneficial to stay under the phase-out limits.
Has anyone tried using the QBI worksheets in different tax software? I tried both H&R Block and TurboTax and got different results for the exact same scenario with my rentals.
Something that hasn't been mentioned here - when you file your amended returns, be prepared for them to take FOREVER to process. I filed an amended return last year and it took almost 8 months to get processed. Just make sure you pay any additional tax you calculate you'll owe when you submit the amendment to avoid penalties and interest continuing to accumulate.
8 MONTHS?? Ugh that's so much worse than I thought. Do you know if there's any way to check the status of an amended return after you submit it?
You can check the status of your amended return using the "Where's My Amended Return" tool on the IRS website. You'll need your SSN, date of birth, and zip code. The tool will tell you if it's been received, adjusted, or completed. But honestly don't expect updates very often - mine sat on "received" for about 6 months before changing to "adjusted". The key thing is to pay whatever additional tax you calculate when you submit the amendment. That way even if it takes forever to process, you won't be racking up additional penalties and interest.
Just want to add - if filing these amendments is going to result in you owing a substantial amount that you can't pay all at once, you can set up a payment plan with the IRS. I had to do this last year and it was actually pretty easy to set up online.
One thing nobody mentioned yet - make sure you're keeping good records of all your investment purchases and sales! The IRS requires you to track your "cost basis" (what you paid for the investment) to calculate your gains or losses accurately. Most brokerages now report this information to the IRS on Form 1099-B, but sometimes the information is incomplete or incorrect. I learned this the hard way when I couldn't prove my original purchase price for some stocks I'd held for years.
Do you have any tips for how to keep track of all this? I've been investing through multiple platforms (Robinhood, Vanguard, and a little crypto on Coinbase) and I'm worried about keeping everything straight for next year's taxes.
I recommend downloading annual tax documents from each platform and saving them in a dedicated tax folder on your computer. Name each file with the year and platform (like "2025_Robinhood_1099.pdf"). For crypto especially, consider using a dedicated tracking app that can integrate with multiple exchanges to create a comprehensive tax report. Some platforms like CoinTracker or Koinly can sync with Coinbase and other exchanges to track your cost basis automatically. The few minutes spent organizing throughout the year will save you hours of stress during tax season.
Quick tip: If you're married filing jointly, the capital loss deduction limit is still $3,000 total (not $3,000 per person). My spouse and I found this out when we tried to deduct $6,000 in losses and got our return rejected.
Are you sure about that? My accountant let us deduct $3,000 each last year. Maybe the rules changed for the 2025 filing season?
One important thing nobody's mentioned yet - your K-1 should have come with supplemental information explaining some of the entries. Partners/S-corps are supposed to provide additional details for certain boxes. Check if there were any other pages that came with your K-1 that might explain some of the entries. Also, if your uncle got you into this investment, he should be helping you understand the tax implications! Partnership taxation is complex and you should probably talk to a tax professional if this involves significant money.
Thanks for mentioning this! You're right - there were actually a few extra pages that came with the K-1 that I ignored because they looked like gibberish to me. Just checked and they do have some explanations about the passive activity stuff. Would you recommend I still get professional help or is this something I can handle with tax software if I'm careful?
For a relatively simple K-1 showing only $3,800 in income, you can probably handle it with good tax software if you're careful. Since this is your first K-1, learning how to report it properly now will help you in future years. If the investment becomes more complex or involves much larger amounts, then professional help would be worthwhile. Just make sure you keep copies of all K-1s and supplemental information, as you'll need them if you ever sell your interest in the partnership to calculate your basis.
Don't forget that K-1 income often means you might need to make estimated tax payments next year if the partnership doesn't withhold taxes! That was my expensive lesson after my first K-1. Got hit with underpayment penalties because I didn't realize I needed to make quarterly payments.
This is so important! I learned this the hard way too. Also worth noting that some states require estimated payments even if federal doesn't. My state has a much lower threshold for when you need to start making estimated payments.
Jace Caspullo
Just a practical tip from someone who's been in your shoes - with your income levels and having a child, you might actually get a refund rather than owing money. The Child Tax Credit is currently $2,000 per qualifying child, which can significantly offset your tax liability. Instead of focusing on allowances (which aren't even used anymore), I'd recommend having a small additional amount withheld from each paycheck if you're worried. Even just $20 extra per paycheck between the two of you would give you a nice cushion against owing anything.
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Melody Miles
β’So does the Child Tax Credit mean you get $2,000 back regardless of what you owe? Like if I owed $500 in taxes would I still get $1,500 back? I'm confused about how credits work vs. deductions.
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Jace Caspullo
β’The Child Tax Credit reduces your tax liability dollar-for-dollar, up to $2,000 per qualifying child. It's different from a deduction, which only reduces your taxable income. For example, if you would owe $3,000 in taxes without the credit, the Child Tax Credit would reduce that to $1,000. If you would only owe $1,500 in taxes, the credit would reduce your liability to zero, and you'd potentially get some of the remaining credit as a refund (up to $1,400 per child is refundable). The refundable portion means you can receive it even if you don't owe any tax.
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Nathaniel Mikhaylov
Has anyone else noticed that OP mentioned allowances but doesn't realize the W-4 form changed years ago? My company finally updated their system last year and it was so confusing to switch over.
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Eva St. Cyr
β’Yeah but some payroll systems and local forms still use allowances terminology. My company's internal system still asks for "allowances" even though they translate it to the new system behind the scenes. Super confusing for everyone.
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Nathaniel Mikhaylov
β’Good point! I didn't consider that some employers might still be using the old terminology internally. That makes the situation much more confusing for employees trying to figure out their withholding. Seems like a lot of companies have outdated systems that don't match current tax forms.
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