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Based on my experience with a similar structure, I think you're overlooking a simpler solution. Why not have the partnership directly employ the individual instead of having them employed by the S-Corp? This would eliminate the need for the reimbursement entirely. The partnership would pay the salary and benefits directly, report it on partnership payroll tax returns, and then distribute the remaining profits equally to both S-Corps. This maintains equal distributions while properly accounting for the compensation.
Thanks for the suggestion, but unfortunately that's not feasible in our case. There are specific reasons (including some health insurance and retirement benefits) why this person needs to remain employed by the S-Corp rather than directly by the partnership. We looked into changing the employment structure earlier and determined it would create more problems than it would solve.
I understand the constraints with benefits. In that case, I think your best option is to follow the special allocation approach mentioned earlier. You'll need to amend your partnership agreement to specifically state that the $25k is first allocated to S1 as a special allocation to compensate for the employment expense, with the remaining profits split 50/50. This maintains economic substance while ensuring your allocations match the reality of your situation. Just make sure the special allocation language complies with the "substantial economic effect" requirements in Treas. Reg. 1.704-1(b)(2).
Has anyone considered using an accountable plan? If structured correctly, the reimbursement wouldn't be taxable to the recipient and would be deductible by the partnership. Worth looking into for this situation.
Accountable plans are typically for employee expense reimbursements, not for reimbursing one partner for paying another partner's compensation. I don't think it applies here since the partnership isn't reimbursing an employee for business expenses - it's a structural compensation arrangement between partners.
17 Something important nobody's mentioned - if the prize was $25,500 USD, the Canadian game show likely already withheld taxes at the non-resident rate of 25% unless there was paperwork filed in advance. So your cousin might have already paid Canadian taxes! Check the actual amount she received against what she "won" - if there's already been Canadian tax withheld, she'll need Form 1116 to claim the foreign tax credit on her US return. This can get tricky with the exchange rate calculations too, since the withholding would have been calculated in CAD.
1 That's a really good point about the withholding! I'll definitely ask her if she received the full $25,500 or if taxes were already taken out. The tax paperwork they gave her was kind of confusing - it had both USD and CAD amounts on it, but I'm not sure if it showed whether any Canadian taxes were withheld. Do you know if the US-Canada tax treaty affects the withholding rate at all? Someone mentioned treaty rates in another comment.
17 Yes, the US-Canada tax treaty can definitely affect the withholding rate! The standard non-resident withholding for prizes in Canada is 25%, but the treaty might reduce that depending on the specific type of income. For certain prizes and winnings, it could be reduced to 15%. The paperwork with both USD and CAD is typical. They would have used the exchange rate on the day of the win to calculate the Canadian tax withholding. If you look carefully, there should be a line item showing "non-resident withholding tax" or something similar. It's crucial to know this amount for filling out Form 1116 correctly to claim the foreign tax credit.
5 I'm confused about why everyone's saying she has to pay tax to the US when she won it in Canada? Doesn't that mean it's Canadian income? I won $500 in a poker game when I was vacationing in Mexico last year and didn't report it because it wasn't US income.
8 That's actually not correct. US citizens and residents are taxed on their worldwide income regardless of where it's earned. Both your $500 poker winnings from Mexico and the OP's cousin's $25,500 game show winnings from Canada are reportable on US tax returns. The US is one of the few countries that taxes based on citizenship rather than just residency or the source of income. You were technically required to report that $500 poker winning as "Other Income" on your tax return. For small amounts like that, it's unlikely to trigger any issues, but for larger amounts like $25,500, failing to report could potentially lead to penalties if discovered.
Just wanted to add a tip about depreciation recapture that nobody mentioned yet. If you 1031 exchange into another rental property when you sell, you can defer the depreciation recapture tax along with the capital gains tax. I've been building my rental portfolio this way for years, upgrading to larger properties while deferring the tax hit. Also, if you pass away while still owning the property, your heirs get a stepped-up basis and the depreciation recapture tax essentially disappears. That's why some investors hold properties until death as part of their estate planning.
Can you explain the 1031 exchange a bit more? Does it completely eliminate the depreciation recapture or just postpone it? And are there time limits for finding the next property?
A 1031 exchange doesn't eliminate depreciation recapture - it postpones it. The depreciation you've taken gets factored into your new "basis" in the replacement property. There are definitely time limits - you have 45 days from the sale of your property to identify potential replacement properties (in writing), and you must close on the new property within 180 days of selling the old one. You also need to use a qualified intermediary to hold the funds between sales - you can't touch the money yourself. And the replacement property must be of equal or greater value to defer all tax. These exchanges can be complex, but when done correctly, they're one of the most powerful wealth-building tools for real estate investors.
I wish I had understood depreciation before I sold my rental last year. I never claimed it for the 8 years I owned the property because I didn't understand it. When I sold, I got hit with depreciation recapture tax anyway on what I "should have" taken. Paid 25% on about $85k of unclaimed depreciation PLUS capital gains on my actual profit. Expensive lesson!
I went through something similar with my uncle's construction company. As others have said, you absolutely don't need to wait for the 1099 to file. Just list the income on Schedule C and keep track of your expenses too. Don't forget you can deduct costs like cleaning supplies, mileage driving to her house, any equipment you bought, even a portion of your phone bill if you use it for coordinating your work. These deductions can really reduce your self-employment tax.
Thanks! I hadn't even thought about deducting expenses. I definitely buy my own cleaning supplies and drive about 15 miles round trip to her house each time. How do I calculate the phone deduction though? I do text with her about scheduling.
For mileage, keep a log of each trip with the date and miles driven. The deduction for 2023 was 65.5 cents per mile, which adds up quickly. So your 15-mile round trip would be worth about $9.83 in deductions each time. For the phone, you need to figure out what percentage you use it for business. If about 20% of your phone use is for coordinating cleaning jobs, you can deduct 20% of your phone bill. Just be reasonable with the estimate and keep your bills as documentation.
The real issue here might be that your aunt is trying to deduct your house cleaning as a business expense when it's actually personal. That's probably why she's using business checks and wanting to issue a 1099 - to claim it as a business deduction when it's not legitimate. Just be aware that if you file accurately (which you should) and she files inaccurately, it could cause problems for both of you. Might be worth having an honest conversation with her about this.
This is exactly what I was thinking! The aunt is definitely trying to write off personal home cleaning as a business expense. I had a client try to do this with me for babysitting her kids at her home office.
Alberto Souchard
The IRS is massively understaffed right now and processing times are all over the place. My brother filed in January and got his refund in 9 days. I filed TWO WEEKS before him and just got mine yesterday (54 days later!) with zero explanation for the delay. There's literally no rhyme or reason to it sometimes - it's like a lottery. Fingers crossed you're one of the lucky ones who gets processed quickly!
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Katherine Shultz
ā¢Were there any differences between your return and your brother's? Like did you claim any credits or deductions that he didn't? Sometimes certain things trigger additional review.
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Marcus Marsh
First-time filer advice: download the IRS2Go app!! It's the official IRS app and lets you check your refund status anytime. Way easier than constantly logging into the website, and it updates at the same time as the "Where's My Refund" tool. My direct deposit refund took 11 days total this year (filed early February), but my girlfriend who filed in March waited almost 4 weeks. Filing early definitely seems to help speed things up.
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