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Don't forget that you can also potentially lower your AGI through HSA contributions if you have a high-deductible health plan! We were in a similar situation and contributed to both an IRA and maxed out our HSA to get under the EITC threshold. The nice thing about HSA is that the money can be used tax-free for medical expenses, so it's like a double benefit.
I hadn't even considered the HSA option! We do have a high-deductible plan through my wife's work. Do HSA contributions have the same deadline as IRA contributions where we can make them up until tax day?
Yes, HSA contributions follow the same deadline as IRA contributions! You can make contributions for the previous tax year up until the tax filing deadline (usually April 15th). Your HSA provider will give you the option to designate which tax year the contribution is for when you make it between January and April. For 2025, the contribution limit for family coverage is $8,300 (it may be adjusted for inflation), which gives you significant room to reduce your AGI. The great part about HSAs is that unlike FSAs, the money never expires, and you can invest it for the long term if you don't need it for immediate medical expenses.
Just be careful about investment income when qualifying for EITC. Even if you reduce your AGI with IRA contributions, you still need to have investment income below $11,000 for 2025. This includes interest, dividends, capital gains, etc. You mentioned credit union interest - make sure all your investment income combined stays below this threshold.
Wait, really? I thought EITC was just based on AGI and number of kids. What's this about investment income? Now I'm worried because I sold some stocks this year...
Quick tip: If you're filing an extension because you're missing a W-2, you should also fill out Form 4852 (Substitute for W-2) when you eventually file your taxes. You can use your last paystub to complete this form. I had to do this last year when my employer went bankrupt and never sent final W-2s.
Thanks for this tip about Form 4852! I didn't know that was an option. Do you have to try contacting your employer first before using this form? And did you face any issues with the IRS accepting your return with the substitute form?
Yes, you should make a reasonable effort to get your W-2 from your employer first. The form asks you to describe the steps you took to obtain the missing W-2. In my case, I documented my calls to the company's HR department and the bankruptcy trustee. I didn't have any issues with the IRS accepting my return with Form 4852. Just make sure your income and withholding estimates are as accurate as possible using your last paystub. If your employer eventually sends a W-2 that differs significantly from your estimates, you might need to file an amended return, but in my experience the paystub information was very close to what would have been on the W-2.
Has anyone had experience with what happens if you file an extension but your estimate is WAY off? Like if i estimate I owe $2000 but it turns out to be $5000 when I finally do my taxes, am I screwed with penalties??
I accidentally underestimated by about $3k last year. Got hit with the failure-to-pay penalty (0.5% per month on the unpaid amount) plus interest. For me it ended up being about $120 in penalties total. Not the end of the world but definitely avoidable if you can estimate better.
I've found that if you can show you made a "good faith effort" to estimate correctly, sometimes the IRS will waive the penalties. Document everything about why your estimate was off. In my case, I had a surprise capital gains distribution from a mutual fund that I didn't know about when filing the extension, and the IRS accepted my explanation and waived most of the penalties.
Your bf needs to be upfront with you about everything before you buy a house together. Not filing for 3+ years as a 1099 contractor means he probably owes a LOT in back taxes, penalties, and interest. Plus he's missed years of Social Security contributions which affects retirement. My ex was in construction too and hid his tax problems until after we were married. Ended up with a $47k tax bill and a lien on our house. Don't make my mistake.
Thank you for the warning. I'm definitely concerned about what else might be lurking that I don't know about. Do you think we should postpone house hunting until this is completely resolved? How long did it take your ex to get everything cleared up?
Absolutely postpone house hunting until this is 100% resolved. You don't want your dream home connected to his tax issues in any way. It took my ex almost 18 months to get everything sorted out and set up on a payment plan, and that was with hiring a tax resolution firm. Besides the immediate tax issues, consider this a pretty big red flag about financial responsibility and communication. Not filing taxes for multiple years doesn't happen by accident - it's a series of deliberate choices. Before joining finances in any way (including a mortgage), make sure you're comfortable with his approach to money and obligations.
Don't panic! I'm in construction too and got 4 years behind on taxes. What saved me was all my legitimate business deductions: - Mileage to/from jobsites - Tools and equipment - Work clothes/boots/safety gear - Cell phone (% used for work) - Supplies and materials - Insurance - Continuing education/certifications Get him to collect ALL receipts and bank statements. If he paid for anything related to work, it might be deductible. This brought my tax bill down by like 40%!
This is good advice but some of those deductions might not be allowed. Like the IRS doesn't consider regular commuting as deductible mileage, only travel between job sites. And clothes have to be specialized for the job, not just stuff you could wear elsewhere.
Have you or your parents kept all the receipts and documentation for these expenses? That's going to be super important regardless of who might be eligible to claim them. My mom tried to claim medical expenses for my sister last year and got audited because she didn't have proper documentation from the treatment facility showing exactly what was paid and when. Make sure whoever claims these expenses has every single piece of paper!
Yes, thankfully my parents are super organized with this stuff. They have every receipt, invoice, and payment confirmation from the treatment center. They even have records of the insurance claims that were denied (which is why they had to pay out of pocket). I guess the bigger question is still whether anyone can actually claim these expenses given that I'm not a dependent. Sounds like I need to look more into that "qualifying relative" test that others mentioned.
That's great that your parents kept everything. Those records will be essential if they end up being able to claim the expenses. Definitely look into the qualifying relative test. The main things they'll need to prove are: 1) that they provided more than half your support for the year, 2) that your gross income was below the threshold (around $4,500 for 2025), 3) that you lived with them all year (though there are exceptions for temporary absences including rehab), and 4) that you're related to them. If you meet all those tests, they might be able to claim both you as a dependent and the medical expenses.
one thing nobody has mentioned is that medical expenses have to be REALLY high to actually be deductible. like they gotta be more than 7.5% of your adjusted gross income AND you have to itemize deductions instead of taking the standard deduction. so if your parents make like $100k, they'd need more than $7,500 in TOTAL medical expenses before they could start deducting anything. and the standard deduction for married filing jointly is like $30,000 for 2025, so their itemized deductions would need to exceed that to be worth it.
StarSurfer
You definitely hit the marriage penalty zone. My wife and I are in similar income brackets and had the same shock. Two tips that helped us: 1) Use the IRS Tax Withholding Estimator online to adjust your W-4s properly for next year, and 2) consider maxing out pretax retirement contributions to lower your taxable income. We put more into our 401ks and HSAs and it helped reduce the penalty effect significantly.
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Amina Bah
ā¢Thanks for the advice! Is the IRS calculator easy to use? We're definitely going to look into increasing our 401k contributions too.
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StarSurfer
ā¢The IRS calculator is pretty straightforward. Just have your most recent paystubs and tax return handy. It walks you step by step and gives you exact numbers to put on your W-4. Took me about 15 minutes to complete. For the 401k strategy, it made a big difference for us. If you both max out at $23,000 each (for 2025), that's $46,000 of income that moves from your highest tax bracket down to zero tax now. Plus it helps with retirement, obviously. The HSA is another great option if you have a high-deductible health plan - that's another $8,300 you can shield from taxes if you're on a family plan.
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Ravi Malhotra
Has anyone tried running the numbers for married filing separately? Sometimes that works better for couples in the higher income brackets or with certain deductions.
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Freya Christensen
ā¢Usually MFS is worse than MFJ for most people. You lose a bunch of credits and deductions when filing separately. I'm a tax preparer and only recommend it in very specific situations like income-based student loan repayment or when one spouse has sketchy tax issues.
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