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Another option to consider - if you consistently owe because of income that doesn't have taxes withheld (like 1099 work, investments, etc.), you should be making quarterly estimated tax payments. The due dates are April 15, June 15, September 15, and January 15 of the following year. This spreads out your tax burden throughout the year instead of getting hit with one big bill. You can use Form 1040-ES to calculate and submit these payments. Bonus: doing this helps avoid underpayment penalties that the IRS charges when you owe too much at filing time.

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CyberNinja

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Is there an easy way to figure out how much to pay for those quarterly payments? Our situation involves some rental income on top of our regular jobs, and I think that might be why we keep owing so much.

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For rental income, you'll want to estimate your annual rental profit (income minus expenses) and multiply by your tax bracket percentage. Then divide that amount into four equal payments. A simple approach is to take whatever you owed last year and divide by 4 - that's usually enough to avoid underpayment penalties under the "safe harbor" rule. The IRS only requires you to pay 90% of this year's taxes or 100% of last year's tax amount (110% if your income is over $150,000), whichever is smaller. If your rental situation is complex, you might want to consult with a tax professional for the first calculation, then you can handle the quarterly payments yourself going forward.

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Owing vs. getting a refund is really just personal preference. I intentionally have extra withheld because I'm terrible at saving. My tax refund is my forced savings account that funds my vacation every year. Mathematically, yes, I could invest that money throughout the year instead. But realistically, I wouldn't. I'd spend it. So for me, getting a refund IS actually the better financial choice despite what the optimization folks say. Do what works for YOUR financial personality and situation!

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Mei Wong

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This is exactly right! The "don't give the government an interest-free loan" advice only makes sense if you're disciplined enough to actually invest that money instead. For many people, slightly overwithholding is a painless way to save.

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IRS Tax Court Deadline Approaching While Examiner Still Processing My Audit Case

I'm stuck in a frustrating situation with my tax audit and hoping someone can help me make sense of what to do. Back in October 2023, I received a notice that I was being audited. I sent all my documentation promptly in November 2023, but the examiner didn't start reviewing my case until February 2024. We've been going back and forth with additional requested documents since then, and the examiner seems reasonable but incredibly slow at processing everything. The real problem is that I received a notice of deficiency in December with a deadline in May 2025 to petition the tax court. Here's where I'm confused - I've called the IRS twice and gotten completely opposite advice. The first representative told me I should definitely petition the tax court as a protective measure, and said the examiner would continue working on my case until the court date and could still resolve it in my favor. But when I called again yesterday, another rep insisted I should NOT petition if the examination is going well because the examiner would immediately lose jurisdiction once I file with tax court. So what do I do? Ignore the tax court deadline (which seems risky) or file the petition (which might derail the current examination process)? I've talked to a few tax professionals who gave mixed advice. One interesting suggestion was to skip petitioning the tax court, let the deficiency become final, and then respond to the Intent to Levy letter by explaining I'm still working with the examiner. They called this a "Collection Due Process" and said the IRS should complete the examination before collecting on the disputed assessment since I've been responsive throughout. Any advice would be greatly appreciated! Tax attorneys in my area want a $7K retainer just to help with this, which seems excessive.

If you can't afford an attorney but still want to protect yourself by filing a Tax Court petition, look into the Tax Court's Simplified Procedure for small tax cases (called "S cases"). It's designed for disputes under $50,000 and is much more informal - you don't need an attorney and the filing fee is only $60. I used this approach when I was in a similar situation. You can find the forms on the Tax Court website (ustaxcourt.gov). Even if you end up resolving the case with your examiner, having the petition filed gives you breathing room.

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Thanks for this suggestion! My dispute is actually for about $45,000 so this would apply to me. Do you know if filing this way still preserves all my rights if I later decide to get an attorney involved? And does the simplified procedure still allow the examiner to continue working on my case?

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Yes, filing under the simplified procedure (S case) still preserves your rights. The main difference is that S cases have a more informal process and you can't appeal the decision beyond the Tax Court. But that's rarely an issue since most cases settle before trial anyway. And absolutely, the examiner can still continue working on your case even after you file. In fact, once you file the petition, your case gets assigned to an IRS attorney who will often work with your examiner to try to settle the case quickly rather than going to trial. Many people find that filing the petition actually speeds up resolution because it puts time pressure on the IRS to wrap things up.

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Yara Sayegh

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One important thing to consider that nobody has mentioned: the 90-day deadline for filing in Tax Court runs from the date the Notice of Deficiency was issued, not the date you received it. Double-check the issue date on your notice and count exactly 90 days from there (not 3 months). If the 90th day falls on a weekend or federal holiday, your deadline is extended to the next business day. But if you mail your petition, it must be postmarked by the deadline date, not just sent. Trust me, I learned this the hard way and nearly missed my deadline by counting incorrectly!

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NebulaNova

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And make sure to send it CERTIFIED mail with return receipt if you're mailing it! That way you have proof of when you sent it in case there's any question.

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Tasia Synder

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Have you tried FreeTaxUSA? They charge nothing for federal filing including 1099-NEC and Schedule C. The only thing they charge for is state filing (around $15). I've used them for years with my freelance income and never had a surprise upgrade fee.

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I haven't tried FreeTaxUSA yet! Does it have a good interface? My biggest frustration with some of the smaller tax services is that the UI feels like it was designed in 1997 lol.

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Tasia Synder

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The interface isn't as fancy as TurboTax or H&R Block, but it's definitely not from the 90s! It's clean and straightforward, just without all the animations and excessive hand-holding. Everything is organized logically and I actually find it faster to use than the big name services. They're especially good with 1099-NEC and other self-employment forms since you don't get routed into "upgrade now!" pages halfway through. Their help content is also surprisingly detailed if you get stuck on something.

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The "free" tax filing services are never actually free if you have anything beyond basic W-2 income. I got hit with the same thing when filing my doordash gig work. Started with free filing and ended up paying $89!!! 🤬

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I found a workaround last year! If you go through the IRS Free File portal instead of directly to the tax service website, some of them are required to give you the free version even with 1099-NEC forms. There's an income limit though.

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Mei Lin

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Everyone's talking about refunds like they're free money from the government. A $21 refund is PERFECT - it means you loaned the government almost nothing during the year. If you're getting a $3000 refund, that means you gave the government an interest-free loan of your own money!! I always aim for owing a small amount (but not enough to trigger penalties). That way I keep my money throughout the year and can invest it or use it how I want.

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I understand your point theoretically, but most regular people aren't investing that extra $50-100 per paycheck. It's just getting spent. For many people, tax refunds function as a forced savings plan. I personally prefer getting a chunk back because otherwise that money would just disappear into my daily spending.

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Mei Lin

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You're making a fair point about the psychological benefit. The math doesn't lie though - if you're getting $3000 back, that's $250 per month you could have had in your pocket. Even if you just put that in a high-yield savings account at 4%, you'd earn an extra $70+ over the year. Not life-changing but still better than giving it to the government for free. The real solution is to improve financial discipline rather than using the tax system as a savings account.

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GalacticGuru

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Has anyone else noticed TurboTax is pushing their paid audit defense add-on really hard this year? I wonder if they're showing artificially low refunds to scare people into thinking they're at higher audit risk so they'll upgrade.

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I noticed this too! I was getting a really low refund and right after showing me that number, they immediately tried to sell me audit defense for an extra $49.99. Seems predatory to me.

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GalacticGuru

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That's exactly what happened to me! It honestly feels like they're using scare tactics. When I went through the same info with FreeTaxUSA instead, I got a much higher refund estimate without all the upsell attempts. I'm never using TurboTax again.

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Have you considered looking into why your withholding changed so dramatically? Before paying for a tax pro, you might want to check if there was a mistake in how your W-4 was filled out or processed by your employer. I had a similar situation last year and discovered my employer had accidentally classified me as "exempt" from withholding for several months. If it's not a mistake, then something significant changed in your tax situation that you need to address going forward too - not just for filing this year's return. Otherwise, you'll be in the same boat next year.

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Natalie Khan

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That's actually a really good point I hadn't thought about. I did fill out a new W-4 when our company changed payroll providers last March. I should check my recent paystubs to see if the withholding amounts look right. Do you know if there's an easy way to calculate what my proper withholding should be?

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The IRS has a Tax Withholding Estimator tool on their website that's pretty helpful. You enter your income, filing status, dependents, and some other basic info, and it tells you how to fill out your W-4 for the right amount of withholding. If you find that your employer made an error in processing your W-4, definitely talk to your payroll department right away to fix it for this year. Unfortunately, that won't help with what you owe for 2024, but at least you won't have the same problem next year.

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I'm an enrolled agent (tax professional), and I'd add that owing money isn't necessarily a bad thing or means your taxes were done incorrectly. Many people view refunds as free money when it's actually just your own money you overpaid throughout the year. That said, with freelance income, you should look into making quarterly estimated tax payments to avoid a big bill (and potential penalties) at tax time. This is especially important if you plan to continue freelancing. While a tax pro might find some additional deductions TurboTax missed, be wary of anyone who promises to dramatically reduce your tax liability without seeing your actual documents. Legitimate tax professionals help you claim everything you're entitled to, but won't suggest aggressive positions that could land you in trouble.

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Natalie Khan

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That makes sense about refunds just being your own money. I guess I've always used tax refunds as a forced savings plan, so it was a shock to owe instead. How do you figure out how much to pay for quarterly estimated taxes? Is there a simple formula or percentage I should follow for freelance work?

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For quarterly estimated taxes, a safe harbor approach is to pay either 100% of last year's tax liability (110% if your income is over $150,000) or 90% of your current year's anticipated liability, whichever is less. This helps you avoid underpayment penalties even if your income fluctuates. For freelance work specifically, a rough calculation is to set aside about 30% of your net profit for taxes - this covers both income tax and self-employment tax. The actual amount varies based on your total income, filing status, deductions, etc. The IRS Form 1040-ES includes worksheets to help calculate the exact amount, or you can use tax planning software to get more precise figures.

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