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Former tax accountant here. Consider the Series LLC structure if it's available in your state. It's specifically designed for situations like yours where you want separate liability protection and accounting for different divisions/owners while maintaining a single overall entity. The Series LLC essentially creates separate "cells" within one LLC, each with its own assets, members, and operations. Each series can have different ownership percentages and expense structures while still filing under a single tax ID.
Thanks, this is really interesting! I hadn't heard of the Series LLC before. Is this available in most states? And would each owner still get a K-1 showing their specific income after their individual expenses?
Series LLCs are currently available in about 20 states including Delaware, Texas, Illinois, and Nevada (among others), but the laws vary significantly by state. Even if your state doesn't allow them, you can form one in a state like Delaware and register it as a foreign entity in your home state, though this adds some complexity. Each owner would still receive a K-1 reflecting their share of income based on the operating agreement terms. The operating agreement would specify how individual expenses are accounted for before calculating each person's distributive share. This approach gives you the liability benefits of separate entities with the administrative simplicity of a single filing.
Has anyone considered just doing a simple partnership agreement instead of all these complicated LLC structures? We had 6 partners with varying ownership and just used a solid partnership agreement that specified how expenses were handled. Way less paperwork and fees.
I wouldn't recommend a general partnership for this scenario. Without the LLC structure, all partners have unlimited personal liability for business debts and legal issues. That's a huge risk with 10 different people involved who all have separate business activities! An LLC provides crucial liability protection that a plain partnership doesn't.
One approach I don't see mentioned yet is checking the Congressional Research Service reports. They publish really good summaries of tax credits by sector. Here's their latest energy tax policy report: https://crsreports.congress.gov/product/pdf/R/R46865 Another option is the Tax Foundation's analyses - they have several reports specifically on energy tax credits that might help with debate prep. They tend to be more critical/analytical which is good for seeing multiple perspectives.
This is super helpful, thank you! The CRS report looks amazing. Does the Tax Foundation have a specific page for all their energy tax analyses or do I need to search through their site?
The Tax Foundation doesn't have a dedicated page just for energy tax credits, but if you go to taxfoundation.org and search for "energy tax credits," you'll find about 15-20 analyses they've published. Their most comprehensive one is titled "Cost Recovery for Energy Investments" which breaks down all the current business energy credits. I'd also recommend checking their analysis of the Inflation Reduction Act's energy provisions since that legislation substantially changed many business energy credits in 2022. Their analyses typically include tables comparing before and after values, which is gold for debate prep.
Don't know if this helps, but the Joint Committee on Taxation publishes estimates of tax expenditures which basically lists EVERY tax credit with dollar amounts. Their latest report is here: https://www.jct.gov/publications/2023/jcx-3-23/ Just ctrl+F for "energy" and you'll find all energy-related credits. It won't give you all the details of each credit, but it will give you a complete list which is what you asked for.
This is actually brilliant for debate prep! Having the dollar amounts associated with each credit gives great impact framing for arguments. Does this show which ones are specifically business credits versus individual?
One tip nobody's mentioned - when you file jointly for the first time, make sure both your names and SSNs match EXACTLY what's on your Social Security cards. My wife and I had our return rejected last year because she had recently changed her last name after marriage but hadn't updated her SS card yet. Caused a huge headache with delays!
Oh that's good to know! My wife did change her name after we got married. Does the name on the tax return need to match her W-2 or her updated Social Security card? Her W-2 still has her maiden name.
The name needs to match what's on her Social Security card. The IRS systems check against the Social Security database, not her W-2. So if she's already updated her name with Social Security, use her new name on the tax return even if her W-2 still shows her maiden name. If she hasn't updated her Social Security card yet, you should either do that before filing or use her maiden name on the tax return this year. You don't need to delay filing if her SS card still has her maiden name - just file with whatever name is currently on her Social Security card and make the update for next year.
Don't forget to check if you're better off with standard deduction vs itemizing now that you're married! My husband and I bought a house last year too and we found that with our combined mortgage interest, property taxes, and charitable donations, we just barely came out ahead by itemizing (about $28,300 in deductions vs the $27,700 standard deduction for married filing jointly).
What software did you use to figure that out? We're trying to decide between TurboTax and H&R Block and wondering which is better for figuring out deductions for newly married homeowners.
Something that hasn't been mentioned yet - if you inherited this IRA recently (like after January 1, 2020), make sure you understand the SECURE Act rules. The distribution requirements changed pretty dramatically and a lot of people get confused. The traditional "stretch IRA" is mostly gone now except for certain eligible designated beneficiaries (spouses, disabled individuals, etc.). Most non-spouse beneficiaries have to empty the account within 10 years now. Just making sure you're calculating your RMD correctly in the first place!
Thanks for bringing this up. The IRA was actually inherited in 2018, so I believe I'm still under the old rules where I can take RMDs based on my life expectancy. But you're right - the rules did change with the SECURE Act and that's made everything even more confusing for people inheriting IRAs more recently.
Good to know you're under the pre-SECURE Act rules. That definitely simplifies things a bit. Just remember that with those rules, you need to continue taking RMDs annually based on the divisor from the first year minus 1 for each subsequent year. A lot of people miss their RMDs because they think it's a one-time thing, but it's an ongoing obligation. Setting a calendar reminder for next year might help avoid this situation in the future.
Does anyone use a specific tax software that's good for handling these RMD issues? I've been using TurboTax but it didn't prompt me about my RMDs at all!
Daniel White
I was in almost the exact same situation last year (two W-2s from different states, unemployment, and education credits). I used FreeTaxUSA and it worked perfectly fine for me. The interface is really clear about which state you earned income in and when. For your education credits, I'd suggest going with what the first commenter said - AOTC is only for undergrad, regardless of how many years you've been in school. Even if you technically were in your "4th year" of higher education, graduate courses only qualify for the Lifetime Learning Credit. One tip: make sure you have your actual living dates for each state documented somewhere. FreeTaxUSA will ask for the exact dates of your residency in each state, and it matters for determining your tax liability.
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Edwards Hugo
ā¢Thanks for sharing your experience! Did FreeTaxUSA make it easy to figure out how to divide the income between states? I'm worried I'll mess that up since some of my unemployment was while I was preparing to move but technically still in Michigan.
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Daniel White
ā¢It really does make it pretty straightforward! When you enter your W-2 information, it asks which state the income was earned in, and when you enter your 1099-G for unemployment, it asks similar questions. For the unemployment specifically, you'll need to allocate it based on where you were living when you received it. So if you received unemployment payments while still physically living in Michigan (even if you were planning to move), those payments would be considered Michigan income. FreeTaxUSA asks for your residency dates for each state and then guides you through allocating everything correctly. Just make sure you know which unemployment payments came when, so you can properly assign them to the right state.
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Nolan Carter
Last year I had even more complicated taxes (3 states, 4 W-2s, unemployment, AND education credits) and while FreeTaxUSA was good enough, looking back I wish I'd just paid for a CPA. I ended up making a mistake on my state allocations that resulted in me having to file amended returns for two states, which was a huge headache and cost me more in the long run. If you can afford it, I'd recommend at least consulting with a CPA for your first time filing a multi-state return, especially with education credits involved. The software is only as good as the information you put in, and if you misunderstand a question, it can lead to filing errors. With your specific question about AOTC vs LLC, that's exactly the kind of nuance a professional would catch immediately.
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Natalia Stone
ā¢I disagree - paying for a CPA seems excessive for this situation. I had a similar multi-state situation and FreeTaxUSA worked fine. Just take your time and read each question carefully. Maybe have a friend who's good with taxes review it before submitting if you're worried.
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