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Tax Withholding Allowances for Married Filing Jointly with One Child

My wife and I are both working full time in Georgia. Just trying to figure out our tax situation for next year. My husband makes $14.25/hour and is currently claiming 1 allowance on his W-4. His annual income before taxes comes out to around $27,300. After his health insurance gets taken out but before taxes, it's about $26,400. I make $18.75/hour and am currently claiming 2 allowances. My annual salary before taxes is approximately $39,000. After my health insurance gets deducted but before taxes, it's around $32,500. We have a 10-month-old son who we'll be claiming as a dependent. I'm wondering if we should reduce my husband's allowances to 0? Are we likely to owe taxes when we file? We're trying to avoid a surprise tax bill next April.

The allowances system on W-4 forms was actually replaced in 2020 with a new system, so you're likely working with outdated forms or terminology. The current W-4 has you check a box for filing status and uses dollar amounts rather than "allowances." That said, I can still help with your underlying concern about withholding enough. Based on your combined income of about $66,300 pre-tax and having one child, you'll likely qualify for the Child Tax Credit. With both of you working, the "Two-Jobs" checkbox on the current W-4 or the multiple jobs worksheet would be appropriate. If you're concerned about owing taxes, the safest approach would be to use the IRS Tax Withholding Estimator online. It will give you the most accurate recommendation based on your specific situation. You can also select "extra withholding" on either or both of your W-4 forms to have a bit more taken out each paycheck as a buffer.

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Thanks for pointing out that the allowances system changed. I've been at the same job for years and haven't updated my W-4. Does this mean I need to submit a new W-4 to my employer? And if we both check the "Two-Jobs" box, would that take too much out of our paychecks?

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You don't necessarily need to submit a new W-4 unless you want to change your withholding. Your employer should still be honoring the old form you submitted, they just translate it to the new system internally. If both of you check the "Two-Jobs" box, it would likely withhold too much, as that would be accounting for the multiple jobs scenario twice. Ideally, only one of you should check that box, or you could use the more precise multiple jobs worksheet instead. Another option is for one of you to specify an additional dollar amount to withhold from each paycheck, which gives you more control over exactly how much extra is withheld.

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Does it actually work with the old allowances system? My company still uses that terminology on our internal HR forms even though the IRS changed it.

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I'm a bit skeptical about these tax tools. Does it actually give you specific instructions for filling out the W-4 or just general advice? I've tried other calculators that were basically useless for my situation.

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It works with both systems! It translates the old allowances into the equivalent settings for the new W-4 system and explains what each means in terms of actual dollars withheld. It was actually really helpful since my company's HR system uses the old terminology too. The tool gives you specific instructions tailored to your situation. It recommended exactly how much additional withholding we should add to my husband's W-4 (rather than changing allowances) and explained why that approach made more sense for our specific income levels. It even generated the filled-out W-4 form that we could print and turn in.

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Just a practical tip from someone who's been in your shoes - with your income levels and having a child, you might actually get a refund rather than owing money. The Child Tax Credit is currently $2,000 per qualifying child, which can significantly offset your tax liability. Instead of focusing on allowances (which aren't even used anymore), I'd recommend having a small additional amount withheld from each paycheck if you're worried. Even just $20 extra per paycheck between the two of you would give you a nice cushion against owing anything.

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So does the Child Tax Credit mean you get $2,000 back regardless of what you owe? Like if I owed $500 in taxes would I still get $1,500 back? I'm confused about how credits work vs. deductions.

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The Child Tax Credit reduces your tax liability dollar-for-dollar, up to $2,000 per qualifying child. It's different from a deduction, which only reduces your taxable income. For example, if you would owe $3,000 in taxes without the credit, the Child Tax Credit would reduce that to $1,000. If you would only owe $1,500 in taxes, the credit would reduce your liability to zero, and you'd potentially get some of the remaining credit as a refund (up to $1,400 per child is refundable). The refundable portion means you can receive it even if you don't owe any tax.

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Has anyone else noticed that OP mentioned allowances but doesn't realize the W-4 form changed years ago? My company finally updated their system last year and it was so confusing to switch over.

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Yeah but some payroll systems and local forms still use allowances terminology. My company's internal system still asks for "allowances" even though they translate it to the new system behind the scenes. Super confusing for everyone.

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Good point! I didn't consider that some employers might still be using the old terminology internally. That makes the situation much more confusing for employees trying to figure out their withholding. Seems like a lot of companies have outdated systems that don't match current tax forms.

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