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For what it's worth, I was in almost the exact same situation in 2016 - had W-2 income then switched to 1099 and didn't file. When I finally filed in 2019, I requested a payment plan for about $7300 I owed including penalties. The IRS approved me for a 72-month payment plan at about $115/month. The process was pretty straightforward - I filed Form 9465 with my late return. The penalties weren't as bad as I expected because I was due a refund in one of the years I hadn't filed, which offset some of the penalties. One tip: if you had any estimated tax payments or withholding during that 2018 year, make sure you claim them! They'll reduce your liability even on a late return.
Thanks so much for sharing your experience. That's actually really reassuring. Did you file yourself or use a tax professional? I'm debating whether I should try to DIY this or if it's worth paying someone at this point.
I started trying to DIY it using one of the major tax software programs, but got stuck on how to handle some of my 1099 business expenses. I ended up hiring a CPA who specializes in late filings, which cost me about $350 but was totally worth it. She found several deductions I would have missed on my own, which saved me more than her fee. Plus she knew exactly how to request the payment plan and advised me on the penalty abatement request. If your situation involves 1099 income with business expenses, I'd definitely recommend getting professional help. If it was just W-2 income, you could probably handle it yourself.
Small but important tip - when you do file, make sure you select the correct tax year forms! The IRS won't accept current year forms for past years. You need to find and use the actual 2018 tax forms. You can find previous year forms on the IRS website under "Prior Year" forms. If using tax software, make sure to select 2018 as your filing year. Most major tax software still supports returns from several years back.
Also worth noting that you can't e-file prior year returns (after a certain point). You'll have to print and mail them. Make sure to send it certified mail so you have proof of when you filed it!
I teach guitar lessons on the side and get paid through Venmo. Last year I had a similar situation with duplicate 1099s. Pro tip: keep a simple spreadsheet tracking all your side gig payments, expenses, and which platform they came through. Makes tax time WAY easier when you can quickly identify duplicate reporting!
Do you just use Excel or is there a specific app you recommend for tracking? I'm terrible at keeping organized and my "system" is basically a shoebox of receipts lol.
Don't forget that if you're teaching classes, even occasionally, you should probably be treating this as self-employment income rather than a hobby. The benefit is you can deduct expenses like a portion of your tools, workspace, materials, and even mileage driving to the makerspace. You could potentially reduce your taxable income significantly! The IRS looks at 9 factors to determine if something is a business vs hobby, but the key one is "profit motive." Since you're being paid to teach, that demonstrates profit motive for that activity, even if the woodworking itself is a hobby.
That's a really good point! I never thought about the teaching part possibly being different from the actual woodworking hobby. So would I split it into two activities? Like report the teaching income ($1,785.90) as self-employment on Schedule C with related expenses, but still treat the $25 pen sale at the craft fair as hobby income on Schedule 1?
Yes, that's exactly right! You would treat the teaching income as self-employment on Schedule C, where you can deduct legitimate expenses related to teaching (portion of tools used in classes, materials, mileage, possibly even a home office if you prepare for classes at home). The pen sale would technically be hobby income reported on Schedule 1, Line 8. However, for such a small amount ($25), many tax professionals wouldn't be concerned if you included it with your teaching business or even omitted it entirely due to its minimal value. If you do more craft fairs in the future and start selling regularly, you might want to evaluate whether that activity could also qualify as a business.
Has anyone here actually filed an amended return because of K-1s? How long did it take to process? I'm in the same boat and worried about how long I'll be in limbo.
Does anyone know if you'll still get in trouble with the IRS even though it's not your fault the K-1s are late? Seems unfair to be penalized when the partnership is the one dragging their feet on sending the forms.
Unfortunately, the IRS still considers it your responsibility to report all income accurately, even when the delays are caused by third parties like partnerships sending late K-1s. The penalties and interest aren't meant to be punitive so much as to compensate the government for the time-value of the money you owed but didn't pay on time. That said, you can request an abatement of penalties (though not interest) by showing reasonable cause, which could include receiving documents late. You'd need to document your efforts to get the information timely and show you acted reasonably. Success with this approach varies, but it's worth trying if you face significant penalties.
Just so you know, payment apps are now working with the IRS more closely than ever. A buddy of mine thought he was being slick by keeping all his side hustle payments under the reporting thresholds, but still got flagged for an audit because his spending didn't match his reported income. They looked at his bank deposits and found regular payments coming in from apps that he hadn't reported. Regardless of how you get paid, the safest approach is just reporting everything. The penalties for unreported income are way worse than just paying the taxes you owe in the first place.
Is there any way to separate personal payments from business ones on these apps? Like if friends pay me back for dinner through Venmo vs clients paying for services?
Yes, most payment apps now allow you to flag transactions as personal or business. PayPal and Venmo both have this feature - you should use it consistently. The personal transactions shouldn't count toward the 1099-K threshold, but the business ones definitely will. Also, I recommend having separate accounts if possible - one for personal use and one strictly for business transactions. Makes record-keeping much cleaner and helps if you ever face questions about what was business versus personal.
Something nobody's mentioned yet - if you're getting paid in cash, you're missing out on building business credit. I shifted from mostly cash to almost all digital payments for my handyman business, and it's helped me qualify for a small business loan because I now have documented income history.
That's actually a really good point I hadn't considered. I've been preferring cash to "avoid the hassle" but my long-term goal is to grow my business enough to get financing for equipment upgrades.
Exactly - when I applied for financing to buy a work truck, the lender wanted to see consistent business income. My payment app history and bank statements showing regular business deposits were crucial for approval. Cash-only would have made that much harder. You should also look into a business banking account if you don't have one already. Many banks offer free business checking for small operations, and it further legitimizes your business when seeking loans or credit.
Dmitry Popov
Don't forget that the specific crypto tax rules might change with each new tax year or IRS guidance update. I've been investing since 2017 and the reporting requirements have evolved constantly. One approach that helped me was using the specific identification method for calculating cost basis rather than FIFO. This lets you choose which "lots" of crypto you're selling, so you can optimize for long-term vs short-term capital gains. Just make sure you have detailed enough records to support this if you're ever audited.
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Ava Rodriguez
ā¢Does specific identification actually save you money compared to FIFO? And how exactly do you indicate which specific coins you're selling when you execute a transaction? It's not like stocks where you can pick specific shares.
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Dmitry Popov
ā¢Specific identification can potentially save significant money compared to FIFO, especially if you've bought the same cryptocurrency at very different price points over time. It allows you to strategically "sell" the lots with the highest cost basis first, minimizing your reported gain. You don't need to specify which coins you're selling at the time of the transaction. What matters is your accounting method and documentation. You need to maintain clear records showing the date and time each unit was acquired, your cost basis, the date and time of sale, and the proceeds. This becomes your evidence for using specific identification. Most specialized crypto tax software can help maintain these records and will let you choose which method to apply when generating your tax forms.
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Miguel Ortiz
Has anyone successfully done like-kind exchanges for crypto before 2018? I have some Bitcoin I acquired in 2017 that I traded for Ethereum back then, and I've been treating it as if the cost basis carried over. But now I'm not sure if that was correct.
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CosmicCadet
ā¢The IRS clarified in 2019 that like-kind exchanges (Section 1031) were never applicable to cryptocurrency trades, even before the 2018 tax law change that explicitly limited 1031 exchanges to real estate. Unfortunately, those 2017 crypto-to-crypto trades were taxable events. If you haven't been reporting them correctly, you might want to consider filing amended returns for those years. The statute of limitations is typically 3 years, but it can be extended in certain cases, especially if the IRS considers it substantial underreporting.
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