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One thing nobody's mentioned yet - you should check if your employer at least withheld the correct federal income tax. Sometimes when they mess up state withholding, they screw up federal too. If they did withhold federal correctly, you might be able to apply some of your federal refund (if you're getting one) toward your state tax bill. Not all states allow this, but worth looking into. Also, make sure you keep all documentation showing your employer didn't withhold properly. If you end up getting hit with penalties, having this paper trail could help you get them reduced.
How would you even check if federal withholding was done correctly? I'm looking at my W-2 and box 2 has federal income tax withheld, but I have no idea if it's the right amount.
You can do a quick check by comparing what was withheld to roughly 12-22% of your income (depending on your tax bracket). But the more accurate way is to run your numbers through a tax calculator or software. Just input your total income, filing status, and deductions - then compare the "federal tax liability" it calculates against what was actually withheld on your W-2. If they're roughly in the same ballpark (within a few hundred dollars), then your federal withholding was probably done correctly. If the withholding is significantly less than your expected liability, then you've got problems on both federal and state levels, which is a much bigger issue.
Has anyone successfully sued their employer for failing to withhold state taxes? My cousin is going through this exact situation and is considering small claims court for the penalties and interest he's being charged.
I looked into this when it happened to me. You probably can sue, but you'd need to prove they were negligent rather than it being a misunderstanding or paperwork error. Did your cousin explicitly fill out state tax withholding forms that were ignored?
He says he definitely filled out all the standard new hire paperwork including state tax forms. He even has copies that he saved. The company apparently just... didn't process them correctly? Or ignored them? Either way they admitted it was their mistake but are refusing to cover any of the penalties.
I've been a tax preparer for 10 years and see this situation frequently. Here's what you need to know: For EITC purposes, a qualifying child must meet relationship, age, residency, and joint return tests. Nowhere in those requirements does it state that you must be the one claiming them as a dependent. However, if both parents could potentially claim EITC for the same child (both meet income requirements), the tiebreaker rules apply. But in your case, since your ex exceeds EITC income limits, there's no competition for the EITC. The most important thing is consistency. Make sure information like the child's SSN, name spelling, and date of birth match exactly on both returns to avoid automatic flags.
What happens if the other parent also tries to claim EITC even though they make too much? Will the IRS automatically reject the higher income person's claim or will both returns get flagged?
If a parent attempts to claim EITC while exceeding the income threshold, their tax software or the IRS systems will automatically calculate that they're ineligible and they won't receive the credit. The system is designed to check income against the EITC thresholds. Even if they somehow managed to claim it incorrectly, the IRS would not penalize you for correctly claiming EITC when you're eligible. They would address the incorrect claim with the higher-income parent. The key is making sure all your information is accurate and consistent, especially the child's SSN, which the IRS uses to track who's claiming which benefits for each dependent.
Quick question about this EITC situation - does anyone know if TurboTax handles this correctly? Like if I input that I have 50/50 custody and want to claim EITC for a kid that my ex is claiming as a dependent, will it let me do that or will it give me an error?
I used TurboTax last year for this exact scenario. It asks separate questions about who claims the child as a dependent versus who can claim them for EITC. Just make sure to answer carefully - when it asks if you're claiming the child as a dependent, say no for the one your ex claims. Later when it asks about qualifying children for EITC, you can include both children if you meet all the EITC requirements.
Don't overlook local resources! Many cities have Small Business Development Centers that offer free or very low-cost accounting setup help. I got free QuickBooks training through mine last year. They also connected me with a retired accountant who volunteers to help new businesses set up their books properly.
Where would I find these centers? Is there a website or something to locate the one nearest to me? This sounds perfect for my budget right now.
You can find your local Small Business Development Center through the SBA website - just search "SBDC near me" and it should pop up. They're usually connected to local colleges or economic development agencies. Most offer free initial consultations where they'll assess your specific needs and then connect you with the right resources. Ask specifically about their accounting workshops - many run monthly QuickBooks or general bookkeeping classes designed for absolute beginners. The SCORE program (also through SBA) can match you with a retired accountant or financial professional who volunteers as a mentor.
I'm going against the grain here, but I think paying for a professional bookkeeper from day one is worth every penny. I tried doing it myself and ended up with such a mess that it cost me $2,700 to have an accountant fix everything at tax time. Now I pay $275/month for a bookkeeper who handles everything. She catches potential issues before they become problems and actually helped me identify several tax saving opportunities I never would have known about. Plus the time I save not dealing with receipts and categorizing transactions is time I can spend actually making money in my business.
$275 monthly seems steep for a startup though... how many transactions do you have? And did you find someone local or use an online service?
I think I see where the confusion is happening. Look at line 2 of your Form 8606 for 2024. You have $6,500 there, which is your basis from the previous year's non-deductible contributions. When you do a backdoor Roth, you need to track your basis across tax years. Since you did the conversion in 2024 of contributions made in 2023, plus additional contributions in 2024, the math gets a bit complex. The taxable amount should be: Total distribution ($7,204) minus your basis in the IRA ($6,500 + any other non-deductible contributions you've made in previous years that haven't been converted yet).
Thanks for pointing this out! So if I understand correctly, my 2023 contribution ($6,500) plus my 2024 contribution ($7,000) gives me a total basis of $13,500, which matches lines 3 and 5 on my Form 8606. But I only converted $7,204, leaving $6,296 as my remaining basis (line 14). Does that mean none of my conversion should be taxable? That doesn't seem right if I had earnings.
Your understanding is partially correct, but there's a key distinction. When you convert from traditional to Roth, the IRS looks at the proportion of your basis to the total value across ALL your traditional IRAs, not just the one you're converting from. If you converted $7,204, and your total basis across all traditional IRAs was $13,500, then the taxable portion would be calculated using the ratio of non-deductible contributions to total IRA balances. However, if the $7,204 includes $704 of earnings on the original $6,500 contribution, those earnings should be taxable. The fact that line 4b on your 1040 is showing "rollover" but no amount suggests the software isn't calculating this correctly. You may need to manually enter the taxable amount there.
Has anyone used TurboTax for backdoor Roth reporting? I've been trying to get mine right and it's driving me crazy. I keep getting different numbers depending on what order I enter things.
I use TurboTax every year for my backdoor Roth. The trick is to enter the 1099-R first, THEN enter Form 8606 information. If you do it the other way around, it sometimes miscalculates the taxable amount. Also, make sure you're entering your prior year non-deductible contributions correctly on line 2 of Form 8606.
Laila Fury
Another thing to consider is that TurboTax might be concerned about the psychological impact of owing a large sum at tax time. Many people get stressed when they see they owe several thousand dollars, even if they've planned for it. I've used both approaches - the safe harbor method and trying to match withholding exactly. Honestly, the safe harbor method is so much simpler, especially if your income fluctuates or you have multiple income sources. The mental clarity of knowing exactly how much you need to withhold for the year (110% of last year's liability) makes tax planning way easier.
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Geoff Richards
ā¢Do you know if the 110% rule applies to state taxes too? I've been using it for federal but never thought about state requirements.
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Laila Fury
ā¢The safe harbor rules vary by state. Many states follow the federal 110% rule, but some have their own requirements. California, for example, has a similar safe harbor rule but with some differences. New York follows the federal rules pretty closely. Check your specific state's tax department website for their safe harbor rules. Generally speaking though, most states have some form of safe harbor protection, and many do follow the federal 110% guideline for higher income taxpayers.
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Simon White
Don't forget that TurboTax is a business trying to upsell you on services and features. Every time it "warns" you about potential issues, it's also creating opportunities to sell you additional services. I switched to a different tax software last year and noticed far fewer warnings about my withholding when using the exact same safe harbor strategy. The new software simply noted that I qualified for safe harbor protection without suggesting I needed to make changes.
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Hugo Kass
ā¢Which tax software did you switch to? I'm getting tired of all the unnecessary warnings in TurboTax too.
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