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Have you considered getting a Tax Court attorney involved? I know it seems extreme, but when my wife's refund was offset for my back taxes (I'm in Arizona, also community property), we ended up filing a petition with the Tax Court after our injured spouse claim was rejected. We didn't actually go to court - just having an attorney file the petition got the IRS to take a second look at our case. They ended up settling before any hearing and released 80% of the refund to my wife. The key was that our attorney specifically cited Ordlock v. Commissioner which deals specifically with California community property and injured spouse relief. Might be worth looking into.

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Thanks for mentioning Ordlock v. Commissioner - I hadn't heard of that case! Did you have to pay the attorney a lot up front? My client is already out the $92k refund so she's struggling with the idea of paying more money for something that might not work.

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Our attorney worked on contingency - he took 30% of what we recovered. Most tax attorneys dealing with refund cases will work this way since they know if they win, there will be money to pay them. The Ordlock case is perfect for your situation since it specifically addresses California community property law and the IRS's obligation to consider separate property interests even in community property states. The key in our case was proving that the refund was generated primarily from my wife's separate withholdings. I'd suggest at least doing a consultation with a tax attorney who specializes in Tax Court petitions. Many offer free initial consultations. Just having the attorney letterhead on your communications sometimes gets the IRS to take a second look before it ever gets to actual litigation.

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Ellie Perry

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For what it's worth, I had success with an injured spouse claim in California by specifically addressing the community property issue in a letter attached to my resubmitted Form 8379. I included: 1. A detailed explanation of how the income was earned separately 2. Bank statements showing separate accounts 3. A signed statement from my ex acknowledging the tax debt was solely his 4. Proof that I had no knowledge of or benefit from whatever created his tax debt The key was being super specific about the money trail and attaching actual documentation. The IRS actually approved my claim on the second try and I got about 70% of my refund back (the part directly tied to my W-2 withholding).

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Landon Morgan

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Did you submit this directly to the IRS or did you go through the appeals process first? I'm in a similar situation but in Washington state (also community property).

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Ellie Perry

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I submitted it directly to the address on the rejection letter as a "reconsideration request" rather than a formal appeal. In my cover letter, I specifically referenced that I was providing "additional documentation not available during the initial review" which I think helped get it looked at. For Washington state, you'd want to focus on the same principles - documenting the separate nature of your income and withholding. The community property rules are similar but not identical, so make sure you're addressing the specific Washington state provisions. The most helpful document for me was a signed statement from my ex acknowledging the debt was his alone. If you can get something like that, it really strengthens your case.

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Finnegan Gunn

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There's a free calculator on the Vanguard website that handles this pretty well too. Just google "vanguard sep ira calculator self employed" and it should pop up. You just input your net business income and it does the math for you, including the adjustment for self-employment tax. I've been using it for years and my accountant always confirms the numbers are right.

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Miguel Harvey

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Does the Vanguard calculator work if you have income from both self-employment and a W-2 job? I work part-time for a company and also do freelance work on the side.

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Finnegan Gunn

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The Vanguard calculator works best for purely self-employed individuals. For mixed income situations where you have both W-2 and self-employment income, it gets more complicated. For someone with both types of income, you'll need to calculate your SEP contribution based only on your self-employment income, and keep in mind any employer retirement contributions from your W-2 job count toward your total annual limit. The calculator won't automatically factor in those employer contributions, so you'd need to do some additional calculations manually. In your specific situation, I'd recommend using a more comprehensive calculator or consulting with a tax professional just to be safe.

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Ashley Simian

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Here's the actual formula straight from IRS Publication 560: Step 1: Start with Schedule C net profit Step 2: Multiply by 92.35% (0.9235) Step 3: Divide result from Step 2 by 1.0765 Step 4: Multiply result from Step 3 by 0.25 (which equals about 20% of your original net) I know it seems weird but this accounts for the circular calculation where your contribution is based on income after deducting the contribution itself lol. IRS math at its finest!

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Kaitlyn Otto

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Thank you all so much for the helpful responses! This was way more complicated than I thought, but now I understand why the 25% is actually 20% in practice. I'll definitely use the formula that Profile 22 shared, and might check out that taxr.ai tool to double-check my calculation since I don't want to mess this up. For my $95k in net profit, looks like I can contribute around $17,550 which is way more than I've been putting away. Time to boost those retirement savings!

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Eve Freeman

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DoorDash driver here for 3 years. The tax situation isn't as scary as people make it sound if you're organized. My advice: 1. Get a mileage tracking app RIGHT NOW (I use Stride) 2. Save 25-30% of everything you make 3. Take pictures of all receipts for hot bags, phone mounts, etc 4. Pay quarterly taxes if you make more than a few thousand Also, your car maintenance costs more than you think! That depreciation hits hard after a year or two of delivery driving.

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Does the 25-30% include state taxes too or just federal? I'm trying to figure out exactly how much to set aside each week.

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Eve Freeman

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That percentage includes both federal and state taxes for most situations. If you're in a high-tax state like California or New York, you might want to bump it up to 30-35%. I'm in a medium-tax state and 28% has covered me completely. The exact amount depends on your overall income level and tax bracket when combined with any other jobs you have.

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Caden Turner

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Do any of you guys use TurboTax for your delivery gig taxes? Or is there a better option for self-employed people? This will be my first year doing DoorDash and I'm worried about messing it up.

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Sunny Wang

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I've used both TurboTax Self-Employed and FreeTaxUSA for my delivery gig taxes. TurboTax is more user-friendly and asks specific questions about delivery driving, but it's expensive (around $120-150 for federal and state with self-employment). FreeTaxUSA handles 1099 income well too and costs way less (about $15 for state, federal is free), but you need to know which forms to fill out yourself.

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QuantumQuasar

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Another option that nobody has mentioned yet is to check if your brokerage offers basis reconstruction services. Fidelity helped me with a similar inheritance issue by researching historical prices based on the date of death. You'll need to provide documentation like the death certificate and proof of the trust distribution, but they can often do the calculation for you. There might be a fee, but in my case it was worth it for the peace of mind.

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Liam McGuire

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What if my brokerage is a smaller one that doesn't offer those kinds of services? I'm with a regional firm that's not as full-service as Fidelity or Schwab.

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QuantumQuasar

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If you're with a smaller brokerage, you still have options. Even if they don't offer formal basis reconstruction services, their customer service might still be able to help you identify the share price on the date of death. If that doesn't work, you can also use resources like Yahoo Finance or Morningstar to look up historical prices for most mutual funds. Just search for SSHFX and find the historical price data for your uncle's date of death. Document how you determined the value (take screenshots), and keep that with your tax records.

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Amara Eze

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Have you considered using the alternative valuation date? IRS rules allow the executor to choose either the date of death OR 6 months after for valuation purposes. Might be worth checking which value was lower if youre trying to minimize capital gains taxes when you sell.

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This is actually a really good point. The executor had to choose one valuation method for ALL assets in the estate though - they couldn't cherry pick different dates for different assets. So you might want to check what method was used on the estate tax return if one was filed.

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Arjun Kurti

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One thing nobody mentioned yet - make sure you check if New Zealand and the US have a tax treaty! Different countries have different agreements with the US that might affect how you report income or claim credits. I believe the US and NZ do have a tax treaty that addresses things like seasonal workers. This might help you avoid double taxation, but you need to know the specific provisions that apply to your situation.

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That's really helpful, thanks! Do you know where I can find information about this tax treaty? Is there a specific IRS form or website that explains how it would apply to my situation?

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Arjun Kurti

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You can find the full text of all US tax treaties on the IRS website - search for "United States Income Tax Treaties A to Z" and look for New Zealand. But I'll warn you, these documents are written in dense legal language and can be hard to understand. A more user-friendly approach is to look at IRS Publication 901 (U.S. Tax Treaties). It breaks down the key provisions by country in more understandable language. For your specific situation as a seasonal worker, pay attention to the sections on "dependent personal services" or "income from employment" in the treaty. These sections typically address short-term work situations like yours.

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RaΓΊl Mora

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Make sure you also find out if you need to file a Foreign Bank Account Report (FBAR) if you opened a bank account in New Zealand! If you had more than $10,000 in foreign accounts at any time during the year, you need to file this form.

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Margot Quinn

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This isn't totally accurate. The $10,000 threshold is for the COMBINED total of ALL your foreign accounts at ANY point during the year. So if you had $5k in a NZ account and $6k in another foreign account, you'd still need to file FBAR. Better safe than sorry with these things!

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