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Your second guess is spot on. When you start a job mid-year, payroll systems calculate withholding as if you're making that same amount for the full year. So your actual annual projected income is lower, hence lower withholding. Easiest fix? Use the IRS Withholding Calculator online to check if you're on track. If needed, you can submit a new W-4 to your employer requesting additional withholding. Just put the extra amount you want withheld per paycheck in Box 4(c). For next year, once you've both worked at your jobs for the full year, your withholdings should naturally align better. But I always recommend doing a mid-year withholding checkup anyway.
Thanks for confirming my suspicion! I used the calculator and it's showing we might be slightly underwithholding overall. Is it better to adjust both our W-4s slightly or just have one of us make a bigger adjustment? Does it matter which approach we take?
Either approach works from a tax perspective - the IRS doesn't care which spouse has the withholding as long as your household total is correct. For simplicity, I'd recommend just having one person make the adjustment - usually the higher earner or whoever has the more stable income. Remember that if your incomes are fairly high, the "married" withholding tables assume that one spouse might not work, so with two similar high incomes, you might need more withholding than the standard tables suggest. The calculator should account for this, but it's always good to recheck your withholdings around June each year to make sure you're on track.
Random tip that helped my wife and me - we both selected "Married but withhold at higher Single rate" on our W-4s since we make similar salaries. This automatically adjusts for the fact that both of us work. Then at the end of each quarter, we do a quick check using an online calculator to see if we're on track. The old W-4 used to have allowances which was confusing af. The new one is better but still not perfect. Married couples with similar incomes often need to withhold extra to avoid an unpleasant surprise at tax time.
Is this still the best approach with the redesigned W-4? I thought the new form was supposed to fix these issues with the two-earner worksheet?
Something important that hasn't been mentioned yet - the IRS actually has a specific "9 factors test" they use to determine if an activity is a hobby or business: 1. Whether you carry on the activity in a businesslike manner 2. Your expertise (or your advisors') 3. The time and effort you spend on it 4. Whether assets used may appreciate in value 5. Your success in similar activities 6. Your history of income or losses 7. The amount of occasional profits earned 8. Your financial status (if you have other income sources) 9. Elements of personal pleasure/recreation From what you described, you have more hobby factors (personal pleasure, not your main income, not conducted in a super businesslike way), but documenting expenses and showing intent to make profit over time might push you toward business territory if you want that classification.
This is super helpful, thank you! Looking at these factors, I'm definitely more on the hobby side. My financial records are pretty basic, I primarily do it for enjoyment, and the income is small compared to my day job. One more question - if I do decide to formally track this as a hobby on my taxes, should I be keeping receipts for all my bonsai-related purchases even though I can't deduct them? Just in case the IRS ever has questions?
Good question! Yes, I would recommend keeping basic records of both your sales and expenses, even though you can't deduct the expenses for a hobby. This serves two important purposes: First, if the IRS ever questions whether this is truly a hobby, your records can help demonstrate the financial reality of your activity. Second, if you eventually transition to business status, having historical records will be valuable. Also, while you can't deduct hobby expenses against hobby income anymore (thanks to the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act), keeping track of expenses helps you understand the true economics of your activity. Just keep it simple - a basic spreadsheet and a folder for receipts should be sufficient. No need for elaborate bookkeeping if it's truly just a hobby.
Anyone know if selling plants online through Etsy changes the hobby/business determination? I've been propagating houseplants (not bonsai but similar concept) and selling about $1500/year through Etsy. They sent me a 1099-K last year and I didn't know what to do with it.
Getting a 1099-K means Etsy is reporting that income to the IRS, so you definitely need to report it on your tax return. Starting in 2022, platforms like Etsy are required to issue 1099-Ks for $600+ in sales (used to be $20k). This doesn't automatically make your activity a business, but it does mean the IRS knows about the income. You'd still apply the same hobby vs business tests others mentioned. If it's a hobby, report on Schedule 1 (Other Income). If business, Schedule C.
Honestly, just fire him and move on. I've been through three different CPAs in the last five years. The good ones are worth their weight in gold, but there are plenty of duds out there. Your review sounds totally fair - you're describing exactly what happened. Pro tip: for next tax season, ask potential CPAs specifically about their experience with crypto taxes. Many traditional CPAs are totally out of their depth with crypto but won't admit it until they've already taken your money. I found my current guy through a crypto subreddit recommendation, and he's been amazing with all my DeFi stuff.
Thanks for the validation. I've already started asking around for recommendations for next year. Did you find any specific questions that helped you separate the knowledgeable CPAs from those just claiming to understand crypto?
I ask them to explain how they handle specific crypto situations that I know are tricky - like liquidity pool rewards, token airdrops, or NFT transactions. The ones who give vague answers or just say "we can handle any crypto situation" without details are the ones to avoid. The good ones will be honest about what they know and don't know. My current CPA straight up told me he specialized in DeFi and mining operations but wasn't as familiar with NFTs. That honesty was refreshing, and he ended up partnering with an NFT tax specialist for that portion of my return. Transparency about their limitations is a huge green flag.
Dude you were too nice. I would've refused to pay anything and given a 1-star review. He literally didn't do what you hired him for and then tried to charge you full price! I've noticed a lot of accountants think they can get away with garbage service because people are scared of doing taxes themselves.
Eh, I disagree. The CPA did complete part of the work, so paying nothing would be unfair. The $250 partial payment makes sense. And honestly, most CPAs are overwhelmed during tax season - it sounds more like miscommunication than intentional deception.
Has anyone tried calling the IRS Practitioner Priority Service? I know it's supposed to be for tax professionals, but I've heard some regular people have success getting through that way. The number is 1-866-860-4259.
DON'T do this unless you're an actual tax professional with a CAF number. They will ask for your credentials and if you can't provide them, they'll just transfer you back to the regular line and you've wasted your time. They've gotten stricter about this in the last year.
Honestly after trying ALL of these methods with mixed results, I've found that sending a secure message through my IRS online account works better than calling for many issues. Not as immediate as a phone call, but I usually get a response within 3-5 business days, and it avoids the whole phone nightmare completely. You have to create an account at IRS.gov if you don't already have one (which requires some verification steps), but once you're in, you can send messages about specific tax issues and even upload documents if needed. Has saved me so much time and frustration!
Dylan Hughes
I used to work for a state benefits agency (not federal, but similar systems). Just want to clarify something - these cross-checks have actually been happening for years, just not systematically or efficiently. The DOGE initiative is mainly about automating and improving what was already supposed to be happening. The biggest issue we saw wasn't people deliberately committing fraud, but honest mistakes in how income was reported or categorized. Like someone would forget to include certain types of income on their benefits application but would report it correctly on taxes, or vice versa. My advice: keep good records of EVERYTHING. If you get flagged for review, don't panic - just be ready to explain any discrepancies with documentation.
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NightOwl42
ā¢Should people proactively contact their benefits offices about potential discrepancies, or just wait to see if they get flagged?
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Dylan Hughes
ā¢Generally, it's better to wait until you're contacted unless you realize you've made a significant error that would affect your eligibility. The verification systems are designed to filter out minor discrepancies, and proactively contacting benefits offices often just creates confusion when there might not be an issue. If you do discover you've made a major reporting error that would affect your eligibility, then yes, you should contact the appropriate office to correct it. But for small differences in how income is categorized or reported, the cross-referencing systems typically have thresholds for what triggers a review.
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Sofia Rodriguez
Does anyone know which federal benefits are being included in this DOGE initiative? Is it just income-based programs like SNAP and TANF, or does it include Social Security retirement and disability too?
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Dmitry Ivanov
ā¢From what I've read, it includes pretty much all federal benefit programs - Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, SNAP, Housing assistance, veterans benefits, etc. But the focus is primarily on programs where eligibility is tied to income levels.
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