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Seraphina Delan

Tax return question: IRS applied refund to husband's $800 shared responsibility payment from 2016 - AZ residents

So I'm in a bit of a weird situation with our taxes this year. We live in Arizona and were expecting a decent refund last year, but never received it. When I checked the IRS website, it just said our return was "applied toward debt due" without much explanation. After calling around and digging through some old notices, I discovered that my husband apparently owes about $800 for a shared responsibility payment from 2016 (he didn't have health insurance for part of that year). I'm guessing this is why we didn't see a penny of our refund last year - it seems the IRS just applied the whole thing toward this old debt. I'm trying to figure out if we need to do anything special when filing this year or if they'll just keep taking our refunds until this debt is paid off. Has anyone dealt with the IRS applying refunds to old shared responsibility payments? Any advice would be super helpful!

Jabari-Jo

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This is actually pretty common and you've already figured out the main issue. When you have outstanding tax debts, the IRS is authorized to keep your refunds and apply them to those debts automatically. This is called a "tax offset." Since your husband's debt is from the shared responsibility payment (the penalty for not having health insurance under the ACA/Obamacare requirements back then), the IRS will continue to offset any refunds until that debt is fully paid. If your refund last year wasn't enough to cover the entire $800, they'll take whatever refund you're due this year as well until it's paid off. The good news is you don't need to do anything special when filing this year - just file normally. If your expected refund this year would completely pay off the remaining balance, any excess will be refunded to you. If you want to know the exact remaining balance, you can request an account transcript from the IRS website or call them directly.

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Kristin Frank

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So if they owe less than their refund this year, will the IRS just send the difference automatically? Or do they need to contact someone to make sure they get the rest of their refund? Also, is there a way to just pay this off directly instead of waiting for the refund to cover it?

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Jabari-Jo

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Yes, the IRS will automatically send any remaining refund amount after they've taken what's needed to cover the debt. You don't need to contact anyone or take additional steps - it happens automatically in their system. You can absolutely pay off the remaining balance directly instead of waiting for future refunds to cover it. The fastest way is to use the IRS Direct Pay system on their website (no fee for this), or you can use a credit/debit card (though there's a processing fee). Once paid, your future refunds won't be offset. You might want to call the IRS first to confirm the exact remaining balance before making the payment.

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Cedric Chung

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We had something similar happen a few years back. If you want to avoid having your refund taken again this year, you might want to adjust your withholding so you don't overpay throughout the year. That way, you won't have a refund for them to take! My husband and I changed our W-4s after this happened to us, and now we either break even or owe a small amount at tax time. Then we just make a payment for exactly what we owe. This gave us more money in our paychecks throughout the year AND prevented the IRS from automatically taking a big chunk for past debts. We set up a payment plan for the old debt instead.

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Talia Klein

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Doesn't that strategy risk owing penalties if you end up owing too much at tax time? I thought there were rules about having to pay enough throughout the year.

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Cedric Chung

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You're right to be concerned about that! You do need to be careful not to underwithhold too much. The general rule is you need to pay at least 90% of your current year tax liability OR 100% of last year's tax liability (110% if your income is over $150,000) through withholding and estimated payments to avoid underpayment penalties. What we did was calculate it pretty closely so we'd either get a very small refund or owe just a little bit. This way we avoided the penalties while also preventing large refunds that would be automatically applied to old debts. It takes a bit more planning, but the IRS has a good withholding calculator on their website that helps make sure you're still meeting the requirements.

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Has anyone figured out if the statute of limitations applies to these shared responsibility payments? I thought most IRS debts had a 10-year collection period. Since this is from 2016, would they only be able to collect until 2026?

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Jabari-Jo

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Yes, the standard 10-year statute of limitations for IRS collections does apply to shared responsibility payments. The clock starts ticking from the date the tax was assessed, not the tax year itself. So if the assessment happened in 2017 for a 2016 tax issue, the IRS would have until 2027 to collect. Keep in mind that certain actions can extend this timeline, like if the taxpayer requests a payment plan or submits an offer in compromise. But barring any extensions, the IRS generally has 10 years to collect on this type of debt.

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