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Don't forget to report this to adult protective services in your area too, not just the police. Financial exploitation of seniors is something they take seriously and they might have additional resources to help. Also report to the FBI's Internet Crime Complaint Center at IC3.gov.
Definitely this! Also reach out to the SEC and FINRA if this "advisor" claimed any professional credentials. Even if they were overseas, these agencies track these scams and sometimes can help with recovery.
Thanks for this advice. We did file a police report but I didn't know about adult protective services or the IC3. I'll definitely look into those resources today. Mom is so embarrassed about all this that she's been reluctant to tell anyone, but I'm trying to get her all the help possible.
Has anyone considered the wash sale rule implications here? If her mom buys similar stocks within 30 days before or after this loss, it could impact the deductibility.
Good point about wash sales, but it likely doesn't apply here since this wasn't a normal market transaction where she sold at a loss. This was essentially theft through transfer. But you're right that she should avoid buying substantially identical securities within 30 days if she wants to ensure the loss deduction isn't deferred.
Alternative approach that I use with my parents: instead of taking their money and donating it, help them identify tax credits they can still use with standard deduction. For example, QCDs (Qualified Charitable Distributions) from IRAs for those over 70½ can reduce taxable income even with standard deduction. Or they might qualify for state tax benefits for charitable contributions even when taking standard deduction on federal.
How does a QCD work? My parents are over 70 and take RMDs but they don't get any tax benefit from their charitable donations anymore since the standard deduction increased.
A QCD allows people who are 70½ or older to direct up to $100,000 annually from their IRA directly to qualified charities. The distribution counts toward their Required Minimum Distribution (RMD) but doesn't get added to their taxable income. This is much better than taking the distribution, paying tax on it, and then donating (especially when taking the standard deduction). With a QCD, they effectively get a tax benefit from charitable giving even without itemizing. The charity gets the same amount, but your parents keep more money by reducing their tax bill on the RMD. It's completely legitimate and specifically encouraged by the tax code.
My tax guy said this arrangement is risky if it's clearly documented as "I'm giving you money SO THAT you can donate it and get a deduction." If audited, the paper trail would show the transaction was essentially just trying to get around tax rules. He suggested a better approach: if your relatives want to gift you money throughout the year for various purposes (not specifically tied to donations), and you later choose to increase your charitable giving, that's much harder to challenge.
Just wanted to add - if this is a 1099-NEC form you're filling out to give TO your clients (so they can pay you), then Box C is where you put YOUR info as the recipient. But if you're the payer filling it out for someone who did work for you, Box C is where you put THEIR info. The context matters a lot!
Thanks for clarifying this! I'm the contractor and my client asked me to complete this form so they can pay me and report it properly. So I'll put my full legal name and address in Box C. Just to double check - this isn't the W-9 form, right? Because I filled one of those out already.
You're welcome! If you already filled out a W-9, then this is probably a different form. The W-9 is what contractors fill out to give to clients (it provides your taxpayer info), while the 1099-NEC is what the client sends to both you and the IRS reporting how much they paid you. It's a bit unusual for a client to ask you to fill out your own 1099-NEC since they typically prepare that form based on the W-9 you already provided. They might be asking you to verify the information they have, or they could be confusing which form they need from you. Might be worth asking them to clarify which specific form they need you to complete.
For Box C, make sure there are NO ABBREVIATIONS in your address except for the state. The IRS is really particular about this and it can cause your form to be rejected. Write out "Street" instead of "St." and "Apartment" instead of "Apt." I learned this the hard way!
This is actually not entirely accurate. The IRS does accept standard USPS abbreviations in addresses. I work in payroll and we use standard abbreviations all the time without issue.
One important thing no one has mentioned yet - the pro-rata rule! If you have ANY other traditional IRA money besides this contribution (like old 401k rollovers), you can't just convert this specific contribution - the IRS considers all your traditional IRA money as one pool for conversion purposes. For example, if you have $50,000 in traditional IRA money total, and $6,500 was this contribution you're talking about, when you convert $6,500 to Roth, only 13% ($6,500/$50,000) would be considered the deductible portion you're trying to convert. The pro-rata rule is the biggest gotcha with backdoor Roth conversions!
Is there any way around the pro-rata rule? I have a large traditional IRA from an old 401k rollover but still want to do backdoor Roth contributions going forward.
There is actually a potential workaround! If your current employer's 401k plan accepts incoming rollovers from IRAs (sometimes called a "reverse rollover"), you could move your existing traditional IRA money into your 401k plan. This removes those funds from the pro-rata calculation. After doing that, your traditional IRA balance would be zero, so when you make a new non-deductible traditional IRA contribution and convert it to Roth, you'd have no pro-rata issues. Not all employer plans allow this though, so you'd need to check with your plan administrator first.
Can someone explain to me like I'm 5 what a backdoor Roth IRA actually is? I keep hearing about it but don't really understand why people don't just contribute directly to a Roth IRA if that's what they want?
High income earners aren't allowed to contribute directly to Roth IRAs - in 2025, if you make more than about $161,000 (single) or $240,000 (married), you can't put money directly into a Roth. The "backdoor" is a workaround: you put money into a Traditional IRA (which has no income limits for contributions, though the deductibility may be limited), and then immediately convert that Traditional IRA to a Roth IRA. There's no income limit on conversions. If you do it with non-deductible contributions and convert quickly before any growth, you essentially end up with a Roth contribution without paying much additional tax, even though your income would normally prevent you from contributing to a Roth directly.
Declan Ramirez
One thing nobody mentioned yet - you should also be getting interest on your refund since it's from 2019! The IRS has to pay you interest for any refund delayed beyond 45 days after the filing deadline (which would obviously apply in your case). It won't be a fortune, but hey it's something! Just make sure all your math is correct before sending it in because errors will definitely delay processing.
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Ruby Knight
ā¢Seriously? I had no idea they'd pay interest on delayed refunds! Do they automatically calculate that or do I need to request it somehow? And will that interest be taxable for 2025?
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Declan Ramirez
ā¢Yes, they calculate and add the interest automatically, you don't need to request it! The IRS adds it to any refund that's issued beyond the 45-day processing window. The interest is considered taxable income, so you'll need to report it on your 2025 tax return (the year you receive it). The IRS will send you a Form 1099-INT if the interest is $10 or more, but you have to report it regardless of the amount or whether you receive the form.
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Emma Morales
Make sure to keep copies of EVERYTHING! I mailed in a late 2017 return last year and it somehow got "lost" after delivery. Thank god I had sent it certified mail so I could prove they received it. Had to send the whole thing again with a copy of the certified mail receipt. Such a headache! If I could go back in time, I'd make copies of the entire return + all supporting documents + my certified mail receipt and put it all in a folder I wouldn't lose.
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Katherine Hunter
ā¢This happened to my sister too! She sent a return, they claimed they never got it, but she had the certified mail proof. Still took like 9 months to sort out. Paper returns are seriously the worst.
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