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This is such a common issue this year! I'm a tax preparer and I've seen dozens of clients with the exact same situation - people who always got state refunds suddenly owing hundreds or even over $1000. The main culprits are usually: 1) State withholding table changes (which many states implemented without much fanfare), 2) Your freelance income pushing you into a higher state tax bracket or affecting credits, and 3) Loss of state tax credits due to income thresholds. For your $2,500 freelance income, you'll need to pay California state income tax on that amount (likely around 6-9% depending on your total income), plus it might have pushed you out of certain state credits or into a higher bracket for some of your other income. My advice: Pull up your prior year California return and compare it line-by-line with this year's. Look specifically at your state withholding amounts, any credits you claimed last year vs this year, and your effective tax rate. This will show you exactly where the difference is coming from. Also submit a new DE-4 form to your employer to increase your California withholding for next year - better to get a smaller refund than owe $780 again!
This is so helpful, thank you! As someone new to dealing with freelance income, I had no idea that even $2,500 could cause such a big swing. The line-by-line comparison idea is great - I'll definitely do that to see exactly where the difference is coming from. Quick question: when you mention the DE-4 form for California withholding, is there a way to calculate roughly how much extra I should have withheld to avoid owing again next year? I'm planning to do more freelance work in 2024 so I want to get ahead of this problem!
Great question! For California, you can use the state's withholding calculator on the FTB website, but here's a rough rule of thumb: if you expect to make similar freelance income next year ($2,500+), you should probably increase your withholding by about $200-250 to cover the state tax on that income. However, since you mentioned planning to do MORE freelance work in 2024, I'd suggest calculating 8-10% of your expected total freelance income and divide that by the number of pay periods to get your additional withholding amount. So if you think you'll make $5,000 in freelance income next year, set aside about $400-500 in additional state withholding throughout the year. You can also make quarterly estimated tax payments directly to California FTB if you prefer that approach over increasing payroll withholding. Some people find it easier to manage their freelance taxes separately this way.
I'm dealing with this exact same situation! I'm in Texas and suddenly owe $520 to the state when I've gotten refunds for the past 4 years. Like you, nothing major changed - same job, same filing status. The only difference is I started doing some part-time tutoring that brought in about $1,800 throughout the year. What's really frustrating is that I compared my paystubs and my state withholding did seem slightly lower this year, but I just assumed it was because of some minor payroll system update. Now I'm wondering if Texas also changed their withholding tables like some of the other states mentioned here. I'm definitely going to try that line-by-line comparison suggestion from the tax preparer above. It's so annoying that these changes happen without clear communication to employees. Thanks for posting this - at least now I know I'm not the only one going through this!
Wait, I'm confused - Texas doesn't have state income tax, so how are you owing $520 to the state? Are you maybe referring to a different state where you have tax obligations, or could this be a different type of state tax like property tax or something else? Just want to make sure we're all talking about the same issue since the original post was about state income tax specifically.
I'm in a similar situation - been waiting since early February and it's so frustrating! The 60-day timeline seems to be pretty standard this year from what I've been reading. Your code 766 with the date is interesting - that's typically when credits get applied to your account, but like others mentioned, it doesn't always mean that's your date if you're still under review. I've been checking my obsessively and noticed that the seems to be taking longer with reviews in 2024. Have you received any correspondence from them asking for additional documentation? Sometimes they'll request more info during the process which can extend the timeline even further. Hang in there - I know the waiting is brutal!
Hey! I'm also dealing with this nightmare - filed in January and still stuck in hell š¤ The waiting is absolutely the worst part! Have you tried calling the practitioner priority line? I heard sometimes they can give you more details about what specifically they're reviewing. Also wondering if anyone knows if the 60 days is business days or calendar days? Been getting mixed info on that
The 60-day period is unfortunately calendar days, not business days, so you're looking at the full two months. I went through this exact same situation last year - filed early February and didn't get my until mid-April. The code 766 with is actually a good sign though! It means the has processed your credits and that date is when they'll be officially applied to your account. While it doesn't guarantee your will be released that exact day, it usually means you're getting close to the end of the process. In my experience, once you see that 766 code with a future date, the typically follows within 1-2 weeks after that date. The process this year has definitely been slower than usual - I think they're being extra cautious with verification. Keep checking your for a code 846 ( issued) - that's what you're really waiting for! Hang in there, you should hopefully see movement soon after 4/15.
This is super helpful info! I'm new to dealing with reviews and all these codes are so confusing. Really appreciate you breaking down what the 766 code actually means - makes me feel a bit more optimistic about my situation. The timeline you mentioned (1-2 weeks after the 766 date) gives me some hope that I won't be waiting much longer. Quick question - when you got your last year after going through this, did you get any notification or did it just show up as direct deposit? Trying to figure out what to watch for besides just obsessively checking my bank š
@Sean Flanagan thanks for sharing your experience! That timeline is really reassuring. I m'in almost the exact same boat - filed in late January and have been stuck in since mid-February. Seeing that 766 code pop up last week with a 4/15 date gave me some hope but I wasn t'sure what it actually meant. Your explanation about the 1-2 week window after that date is super helpful. @Ava Kim to answer your question about notifications - when I went through this with a friend s situation'last year, the just showed up as direct deposit without any advance notice. The 846 code on the is really the best indicator that it s coming.'We literally checked the one day and saw the 846 code, then the money hit the the next business day. No email or letter beforehand. The waiting game is brutal but sounds like we re hopefully'in the home stretch!
I'm experiencing the exact same thing! Verified my identity through ID.me 6 days ago and still have the "Action Required" message with completely blank transcripts. It's been such a stressful waiting game not knowing if everything is processing correctly. Reading through everyone's experiences here has been incredibly helpful and reassuring. The explanation about the manual processing queue really makes sense - I had no idea that after ID verification, returns have to be manually reviewed instead of being processed automatically. That explains why everything takes so much longer! I'm definitely going to try checking my transcript early Friday morning around 3-4am like some people suggested. I had no clue the IRS did their weekly updates at specific times like that. It's amazing how many of us are all dealing with this identical situation right now - really shows how backed up their system must be this year. Thanks for posting this question because I was starting to worry that I somehow messed up during verification or that my return got lost. The 2-3 week timeframe seems to be pretty consistent based on everyone's experiences, so I'll try to be patient. At least now I know this is totally normal and not something we did wrong!
I'm in almost the exact same situation! Just verified my identity 4 days ago and seeing the same "Action Required" status with blank transcripts. It's been so nerve-wracking wondering if I did something wrong, but reading through everyone's experiences here has been such a huge relief. The manual processing queue explanation really clicked for me - no wonder it takes weeks when humans have to manually review everything instead of it being automated! I'm definitely setting an alarm for that 3am Friday check too. It's incredible how many of us are all experiencing this identical timeline right now. Thanks for sharing your story - it really helps to know we're all in this waiting game together! š
I'm going through this exact same situation right now! Verified my identity about 10 days ago and still stuck with "Action Required" and completely blank transcripts. It's been driving me crazy wondering if something went wrong. After reading through all these experiences, I feel so much better knowing this is totally normal this year. The explanation about the manual processing queue really helps - I had no idea that after ID verification, returns have to be manually reviewed by actual people instead of going through the automated system. That completely explains why it takes 2-3 weeks! I'm definitely going to try checking my transcript at 3am on Friday like several people mentioned. Had no clue the IRS does their weekly updates at specific times like that. It's wild how many of us are all experiencing this identical timeline - really shows how backed up they must be. Thanks for posting this question because I was starting to think I messed up my verification somehow. The waiting is brutal but at least now I know it's completely normal and we just have to be patient while they work through the queue!
This is great information everyone is sharing! I'm also a service-based business owner (handyman services) and was completely unaware I could deduct mileage. I've been driving to client locations for two years now and never claimed any of these miles because I thought it was just "commuting." I do have a dedicated office space in my basement where I handle all my scheduling, invoicing, and business planning. It sounds like I need to start tracking my mileage immediately and possibly look into amending previous tax returns? One question though - do I need to track mileage for every single trip, or can I estimate based on regular routes to frequent clients? Some of my clients are repeat customers where I go to the same address multiple times per month.
You definitely need to track every single trip individually - the IRS doesn't allow estimates or averaging for mileage deductions. Each trip needs to be documented with the date, starting point, destination, business purpose, and miles driven. Even if you're going to the same client multiple times, you need to log each individual trip. For amending previous returns, you can file Form 1040X for up to three years back if you have adequate records. However, if you don't have detailed mileage logs from those years, it might be difficult to support the deduction. Going forward, definitely start tracking immediately - use one of the mileage apps mentioned earlier or keep a detailed written log. The good news is that handyman services typically qualify easily for the home office deduction since you're doing administrative work from home, which makes your mileage to client locations clearly deductible business travel rather than commuting.
Great thread with lots of helpful information! I'm also self-employed (freelance marketing consultant) and this discussion has been really eye-opening. I've been missing out on mileage deductions for client meetings because I thought since I work from home, any driving was just "personal" travel. One thing I want to add that I learned from my accountant last year - if you're using the standard mileage rate, make sure you're using the correct rate for the tax year. The rates change annually. For 2024, it's 67 cents per mile for business use (up from 65.5 cents in 2023). Also, don't forget that you can deduct mileage for business-related trips beyond just client visits. This includes driving to the bank for business deposits, to the office supply store for business purchases, to networking events, etc. As long as the trip has a legitimate business purpose and you're traveling from your home office (principal place of business), it should qualify. The key is really having that qualifying home office and keeping meticulous records. I use a simple spreadsheet with columns for date, starting location, destination, business purpose, and miles. Takes 30 seconds to log each trip but can save hundreds or thousands at tax time.
This is such valuable information, thank you! I had no idea the mileage rate increased for 2024. As someone who's new to self-employment taxes, I'm realizing how much I don't know. Your point about other business-related trips is really helpful too - I never thought about deducting mileage for trips to the bank or office supply store. Quick question about the spreadsheet approach - do you also track your odometer readings at the beginning and end of each trip, or is just logging the total miles sufficient? I want to make sure I'm documenting everything correctly in case of an audit. Also, for someone just starting to track this mid-year, should I go back and try to reconstruct my business trips from earlier this year using calendar appointments and receipts, or just start fresh from now?
Felix Grigori
Thanks everyone for the helpful responses! This clears up my confusion. I was hoping the IP PIN would simplify things but sounds like I need to be prepared for both. Really appreciate the detailed explanations - makes sense that they serve different security purposes even though it's frustrating to deal with multiple layers.
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Hannah White
ā¢Same here! Just got my first IP PIN this year and was hoping it would streamline everything. At least now I know what to expect - thanks for asking this question, saved me from being caught off guard!
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Dylan Wright
Just to add some clarity from someone who's been through this multiple times - the IP PIN is basically your "password" to file, while identity verification is like showing your driver's license. Even with the PIN, if the IRS system flags something unusual about your return (could be income changes, new deductions, etc.), they'll still ask you to verify. It's annoying but it's actually protecting you from having someone else successfully file a fraudulent return even if they somehow got your PIN. The good news is once you verify successfully, it usually gets easier in future years.
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Mason Stone
ā¢That's a really helpful analogy! The password vs driver's license comparison makes it so much clearer. I was wondering what could trigger the verification request even with an IP PIN - knowing it could be things like income changes or new deductions helps me understand why the system might flag my return. Appreciate you sharing your experience!
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