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Sean O'Brien

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Just wanted to add - I'm a tax preparer (not the one who gave you bad advice), and what others have said is correct. Box 3 income on a 1099-MISC CAN absolutely be reported on Schedule C if you're providing services as an independent contractor, which clearly you are. Your client technically should have used a 1099-NEC for nonemployee compensation rather than a 1099-MISC with box 3, but that's THEIR error, not yours. You still report it on Schedule C and take all legitimate business deductions. With 20k miles, at the current 2025 mileage rate of 65.5 cents per mile, that's a $13,100 deduction right there! Find a different tax preparer who understands self-employment tax returns better.

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NeonNebula

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Thank you so much for this confirmation. I'm definitely going to find a new tax preparer. Quick follow-up - if I claim the standard mileage deduction, can I still deduct the cost of the new tires separately or is that considered included in the mileage rate?

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Sean O'Brien

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If you use the standard mileage rate (which is typically the better option with high mileage like yours), that rate is designed to cover all costs of operating your vehicle including depreciation, maintenance, repairs, tires, gas, oil, and insurance. So no, you cannot separately deduct the cost of tires in addition to taking the standard mileage rate. However, you can still deduct other legitimate business expenses that aren't related to your vehicle operation, such as business supplies, a portion of your cell phone bill if used for business, business insurance, or any other ordinary and necessary business expenses.

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Zara Shah

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Has anyone actually used TurboTax or H&R Block software for this specific situation? I'm having the exact same problem with box 3 on a 1099-MISC and would love to know which software handles it correctly without causing problems.

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Luca Bianchi

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I used TurboTax Self-Employed for a similar situation last year. When you get to the 1099-MISC section, just enter the information exactly as it appears on your form. Then when it asks about your business, create a Schedule C for your personal assistant business, and TurboTax will guide you through entering all your expenses including mileage. It worked perfectly - just make sure you choose the Self-Employed version not the cheaper ones.

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What's the real difference between tax fraud and legitimate tax strategies?

I've noticed that the term 'fraud' gets thrown around a lot in tax discussions online, and I think the distinction between actual tax fraud and legitimate tax strategy is getting increasingly blurry. It makes me wonder where exactly we draw the line. For example, some people seem to think something becomes fraud simply because the underlying motivation is to reduce your tax burden. But isn't that literally what tax planning is supposed to do? Take my accounting practice - we're specifically hired to find legal ways to minimize clients' taxes, maximize deductions & credits, etc. The goal is always to pay the smallest legal amount of tax possible. But that doesn't make it fraud, right? Here's a specific scenario I've been thinking about: If a cash-basis business adjusts how aggressively they pursue collections from clients to shift income recognition from one tax year to another (maybe because tax rates are changing), is that legitimate strategy or crossing into fraud territory? I think we all agree that deliberately not reporting income or outright lying on your return is clearly fraud - the intent there is deliberate tax evasion. But strategic tax planning also fundamentally aims to reduce taxes owed. The difference seems important but sometimes gets lost in discussions. I know what constitutes actual tax fraud... just wanted to start a conversation about this. And maybe suggest we be careful about using the word 'fraud' when responding to what might actually be completely legitimate tax strategies.

I think one clear line is disclosure. Tax strategy means organizing your affairs in a tax-efficient way but FULLY DISCLOSING everything required. Fraud always involves hiding something. For example, I run a consulting business and have clients in multiple states. I could set up my business headquarters in a low-tax state - that's strategy. But if I claim that's my headquarters while actually operating entirely from a high-tax state, that's fraud because I'm misrepresenting the facts. The IRS actually respects legitimate tax planning. They expect you to take advantage of deductions and credits you're entitled to. What they don't tolerate is misrepresentation or concealment.

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Oliver Cheng

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What about aggressive interpretations of gray areas though? Like if the law isn't super clear about something and you take a position that benefits you tax-wise, but there's a decent chance the IRS would disagree?

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That's where the concept of "substantial authority" comes into play. If you're taking a position in a gray area, the question becomes whether you have a reasonable basis for your interpretation. Tax professionals typically look for about a 40% chance of prevailing if challenged to consider there being "substantial authority" for a position. If you're taking an aggressive but supportable position, the key is proper disclosure. By filling out Form 8275 (Disclosure Statement) with your return, you're telling the IRS "here's my position on this gray area" rather than hoping they don't notice. This disclosure protects you from accuracy-related penalties even if the IRS ultimately disagrees with your interpretation. It separates aggressive-but-legitimate planning from attempting to hide something.

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Taylor To

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Does anyone know if the IRS has like an official definition of what counts as tax fraud vs legitimate planning? I'm trying to decide if I should report some side income that was paid in cash...

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Ella Cofer

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Not reporting cash income is pretty clearly fraud, not strategy. The IRS definition of fraud includes "intentional wrongdoing with the specific intent to evade a tax known to be due." If you received income, it's taxable regardless of payment method. Pretty much any tax professional would tell you that deliberately not reporting income crosses the line from strategy into fraud. Legitimate strategy would be looking at whether that income qualifies for any deductions or credits, or considering ways to offset it with business expenses if it's self-employment income.

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I switched from QBO to Quicken Business about 8 months ago for my freelance design business. It's definitely not as robust, but for basic income and expense tracking, it does the job. The biggest differences I've noticed: - Invoicing is more basic in Quicken, fewer customization options - No time tracking in Quicken - QBO has better integration with payment processors - Reports are less sophisticated in Quicken - Quicken's mobile app is much worse than QBO For my simple needs though, it's been fine and the cost savings are substantial. I think it really depends on how complex your business is and whether you need the extra features of QBO.

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Can you still share access with your accountant in Quicken? That's one of the main features I use in QBO.

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There's no direct accountant access like QBO offers. What I do instead is export tax reports as PDFs or Excel files and share those with my accountant quarterly. It's a bit more manual, but it works fine since my business is pretty straightforward. My accountant actually prefers getting my organized spreadsheets rather than digging through QBO themselves. But if your accountant is actively working in your books throughout the year, this might be a limitation for you.

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Has anyone tried Wave? It's free for accounting and receipt tracking, and they only charge for payroll and payment processing. I've been using it for 2 years and it's actually pretty good for small businesses.

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Jayden Reed

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I tried Wave but found the reporting really limited compared to QBO. Also had some issues with bank connections frequently breaking. It's decent for very basic needs though.

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That's fair. I've had occasional bank connection issues too, but for a free option it's been reliable enough. The reporting has gotten better in recent updates, but definitely still not as comprehensive as QBO. For my small photography business it hits the sweet spot of "good enough" without any monthly fees.

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Ally Tailer

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My accountant tried to charge me $1500 extra for crypto this year too! I ended up using CoinTracker to generate my own 8949 and then just gave my accountant the final numbers for Schedule D. Cut my bill by like 60%. One thing to watch for - make sure whatever software you use calculates your gains using the same method your accountant has been using (FIFO, LIFO, etc). Switching methods midway can cause issues.

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Hugo Kass

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That's exactly what I'm worried about! Did your accountant give you any pushback when you showed up with your own 8949 already done? And did you tell them ahead of time or just show up with the completed forms?

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Ally Tailer

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My accountant was actually relieved when I showed up with the 8949 already completed. I did let her know ahead of time that I was going to handle the crypto portion myself so she wouldn't duplicate the work. She initially was concerned about the accuracy but after reviewing what I provided, she was comfortable using it. We confirmed I was using FIFO (First In, First Out) which is what she had been using all along. The key was making sure I gave her not just the summary figures but the detailed transaction listing so she could verify the work if needed. She ended up charging me her standard rate for the rest of my return without the crypto upcharge.

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Has anyone tried just creating a separate LLC for crypto trading activities and filing that on its own tax return? I've heard some people doing this to keep the crypto complexity separate from their personal taxes.

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That's actually a terrible idea for most people. Creating an LLC doesn't change how crypto is taxed - it's reported as pass-through income on your personal return anyway unless you elect corporate taxation. Plus you'd have all the extra compliance costs of maintaining a business entity, separate accounts, etc. Would likely cost MORE in the long run.

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Thanks for the clarification! I figured it might be too good to be true. Seems like using specialized crypto tax software and then providing the completed forms to my accountant is the better approach based on all the advice here.

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One thing nobody's mentioned yet - have you double checked your withholding on those W-2s? With 4 different jobs between you, it's possible that each employer is calculating withholding as if that's your only income, which would lead to significant underwithholding. You might need to submit new W-4 forms to each employer and select the "Multiple Jobs" option or specify an additional amount to withhold from each paycheck. This won't help for 2023, but could prevent the same surprise for 2024.

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That's a good point I hadn't considered. I think each employer is definitely calculating as if that's our only income. How would I figure out what the right additional withholding amount should be for each job? Is there a calculator for that?

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The IRS has a Tax Withholding Estimator tool on their website that's designed exactly for situations like yours with multiple jobs. It will walk you through entering info from all four W-2s and then recommend specific withholding amounts for each job. For a quick rule of thumb, take your total expected annual tax bill (probably around $44-45k based on your income) and subtract what you're currently having withheld. Then divide that shortage by the number of pay periods remaining in the year to determine how much additional withholding you need across all jobs. You can split that amount across all four jobs however makes sense for your cash flow.

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Tate Jensen

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Has anyone mentioned looking into any tax credits you might qualify for? The Child Tax Credit, American Opportunity Credit (for education expenses), or Saver's Credit could apply depending on your situation. Credits are even better than deductions since they directly reduce your tax bill dollar-for-dollar.

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Adaline Wong

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At their income level ($270k), they're probably phased out of most credits. The Saver's Credit phases out at $73k for married filing jointly, and the Child Tax Credit starts phasing out at $200k. Education credits have similar income limitations.

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