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Have you considered a payment plan instead of an OIC? If your business really might recover or you could get a decent job, the IRS might not accept an OIC if they think you can pay over time. I ended up on a 72-month payment plan and it was much easier to get approved than an OIC.
I'm worried a payment plan wouldn't be affordable given the total amount I owe. With $175k in tax debt, even spread over 6 years, that's almost $2500 a month not including interest. Is there any flexibility on the payment amounts? Did they look at your actual expenses when determining what you could pay?
They absolutely look at your expenses, but they use their own standards for what's "reasonable" which can be frustrating. For example, they have limits on housing costs based on your county. There's also something called a Partial Payment Installment Agreement (PPIA) where you pay what you can afford based on your financial situation, even if it won't fully pay off the debt before the collection statute expires. It's less drastic than an OIC but more flexible than a standard payment plan. In my case, I'm paying $400/month which won't cover the full amount, but it was what the IRS determined I could afford.
Don't forget about bankruptcy as an option. I know it sounds extreme, but some tax debts can be discharged in bankruptcy if they're old enough (generally more than 3 years old). It's not for everyone, but worth considering if you're truly in a no-win situation.
This is risky advice. Tax debts have very specific rules for discharge in bankruptcy. The taxes need to be from returns due at least 3 years ago, filed at least 2 years ago, and assessed at least 240 days ago. Plus, fraud or willful evasion makes them non-dischargeable. OP shouldn't count on bankruptcy without consulting a bankruptcy attorney who specializes in tax issues.
Don't forget about the home office deduction if you work from home! You can deduct part of your rent/mortgage based on the percentage of your home used exclusively for business. Also, track your mileage for any business-related driving (client meetings, supply runs, etc).
Is the home office deduction really worth it? I heard it can trigger audits. Also, for driving - can I just estimate how much I drove or do I need like a detailed log?
The home office deduction being an audit trigger is mostly an outdated myth. The IRS has simplified this deduction in recent years. As long as you have a space used "regularly and exclusively" for business, it's a legitimate deduction. Just be honest about the percentage of your home it represents. For mileage, estimates won't cut it if you're ever audited. You need a log with dates, starting/ending mileage, and business purpose. Several free apps can track this for you automatically. The standard mileage rate for 2024 is pretty generous, so this can be a significant deduction if you drive frequently for business.
Quick question - I've been using QuickBooks for my small business but find it really confusing. Any recommendations for simpler accounting software for a complete beginner?
Try Wave Accounting - it's free and way simpler than QuickBooks. I'm not super financially savvy and found it pretty easy to use for my small shop. The reporting features make tax time so much easier.
I'm a grad student and went through this last year. For educational grants, your school should provide a 1098-T showing tuition and scholarships/grants. But for research grants, they often DON'T send any form! Super annoying! If the grant was for research work you did (like you were essentially employed as a researcher), it should technically be on a W-2. If it was just a stipend or fellowship with no work requirements, you still have to report it as income on your 1040 under "other income" even with no form.
But isn't there some education credit we can claim against grant money? I remember someone telling me you can deduct research expenses or something?
There's a difference between tax credits for education and how you handle grant money. You might qualify for the American Opportunity Credit or Lifetime Learning Credit based on your educational expenses, but that's separate from how you report your grant. For research expenses, if your grant is specifically for research and you have expenses directly related to that research, those expenses may offset the taxable portion of your grant. Keep all receipts for lab supplies, research materials, travel to research sites, etc. The rules get complicated though, so documenting everything is important. The key distinction is whether the grant required you to perform services (like research work) or was simply awarded to support your education.
Has anyone used TurboTax for reporting grants without tax forms? It keeps asking me for a 1099 but I don't have one!!
I used FreeTaxUSA instead of TurboTax for my fellowship grant. There's a specific section for scholarships and grants not reported on a tax form. Much easier than TurboTax for this situation!
A small refund is actually GOOD. It means you weren't giving the government an interest free loan all year. I aim for owing a small amount (but not enough to trigger penalties). If you want to check your preparer's work, look at your total federal income tax withholding on your W-2 (Box 2) and compare it to your total tax on your 1040 (Line 24). If your withholding is just slightly higher than your total tax, then everything is probably correct.
Thanks for this explanation! I checked and my withholding in Box 2 was $15,980 and my total tax on Line 24 was $15,600, so the math does check out for the $380 refund. I guess I was just expecting more because I've always gotten bigger refunds before. Is it normal for the refund to vary this much from year to year? Last year I got back around $2,400.
The big difference between last year's $2,400 refund and this year's $380 is worth investigating. Something significant changed in either your withholding or your tax situation. Most likely explanations: 1) You updated your W-4 withholding form last year and it's now more accurate, 2) You had additional tax credits or deductions last year that you didn't have this year, or 3) Your income increased putting you in a higher tax bracket while your withholding didn't increase proportionally. I'd recommend comparing last year's return line by line with this year's to spot the differences.
Am I the only one who thinks tax preparers are a waste of money for simple returns? For a single person with just W-2 income, you could easily use TurboTax or FreeTaxUSA and save yourself the prep fees. Those programs would also explain your refund amount and alert you if something seemed off.
Not a waste at all. I tried doing my own taxes for years and always stressed about making mistakes. My tax guy catches things I would miss and the peace of mind is worth every penny. Plus, he's available if I get any letters from the IRS.
I agree with you. I've been doing my own taxes for years with just W-2 income using FreeTaxUSA. It's like $15 for state filing and federal is free. The software walks you through everything and double-checks for errors. Plus you learn how taxes actually work instead of just handing everything over to someone else.
Luca Greco
I went through this exact situation last year. If you owe $40k, an Offer in Compromise might be your best option, but the acceptance rate is only around 30-40%. The IRS will look at your income, expenses, assets, and ability to pay. Be prepared to provide DETAILED financial statements. They'll basically determine: "What's the most we can reasonably expect to collect from this person?" If that amount is less than what you owe, they might accept a lower offer.
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CosmosCaptain
โขThank you for sharing your experience. Did you go through the OIC process yourself? If so, how long did it take from submission to getting a decision?
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Luca Greco
โขI did go through the OIC process myself. The entire process took about 8 months from when I submitted my application to receiving final approval. The initial review took about 3 months, then they came back asking for additional documentation about some of my expenses and assets which took another 2 months of back and forth. The final negotiation and approval took another 3 months. During this time, collections activities were suspended which was a huge relief. One important tip: be extremely thorough and accurate with your financial disclosure forms (433-A and 433-B if you have a business). Any discrepancies will delay the process significantly.
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Nia Thompson
Have you considered bankruptcy? Chapter 7 can sometimes discharge tax debts if they're old enough (generally 3+ years since filing) and meet certain other criteria. Might be worth exploring if your financial situation is truly dire.
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Freya Johansen
โขThis is risky advice without knowing more details. Tax debt is often NOT dischargeable in bankruptcy unless it meets very specific criteria: - The taxes must be income taxes - The due date for filing the tax return was at least 3 years ago - You filed the tax return at least 2 years before filing bankruptcy - The tax assessment is at least 240 days old - You didn't commit fraud or willful evasion Chapter 7 also has significant long-term consequences. OP should definitely consult with both a tax professional AND a bankruptcy attorney before considering this route.
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