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Grant Vikers

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Another important factor is that if your girlfriend's father claimed the kids before, and now suddenly someone else claims them, it might trigger a closer look from the IRS. They tend to notice pattern changes like that. If your girlfriend is the custodial parent, she has the strongest claim legally unless she's signed Form 8332 giving the right to the non-custodial parent. Make sure she has documentation of how long the children live with her - school records, medical records, etc. Also, since she receives SSI for the children, that's already documented with the government, which strengthens her position as the custodial parent. Keep in mind that SSI income is generally not taxable, but it can affect other benefits.

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Do you know if the father claiming them before will cause problems even if he never had the legal right to do so? My cousin let her parents claim her kid but now she wants to claim him herself.

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Grant Vikers

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If the grandfather claimed the children in previous years without having the legal right to do so (meaning without meeting the dependency tests or having proper documentation), then yes, it could potentially cause some questions when your cousin claims her own child. However, this doesn't mean she shouldn't claim her own child if she's legally entitled to. The IRS might send notices asking for clarification if they see a pattern change, but if your cousin is the custodial parent and meets all the tests for claiming her child, she should be able to claim them without issue. She should just be prepared to provide documentation showing that the child lives with her if asked. This could include school records, medical records, or other official documents showing the child's residence.

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Has anyone used TurboTax for a situation like this? Their interview process seemed confusing when I tried to explain a similar situation last year.

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Levi Parker

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I used TurboTax last year for a somewhat similar situation with my girlfriend's kids. The key is to answer their questions literally and not overthink it. When they ask if someone "can" claim you as a dependent, that's a legal question about whether anyone meets the tests to claim you, not whether someone actually will claim you. Make sure to go through their special situations section too if your standard living arrangement doesn't fit their initial questions. It gets more detailed there.

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An important factor nobody's mentioned yet - check if there's a tax treaty between the UK and New Zealand! This can make a huge difference in avoiding double taxation. Usually these treaties have specific provisions for determining where a company is considered resident for tax purposes when there's ambiguity like in your situation.

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Oscar Murphy

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Theres also something called a "tie-breaker" rule in most tax treaties that helps determine which country gets primary taxing rights when both claim you. Usually comes down to where you have stronger personal connections, permanent home, etc.

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You're absolutely right about the tie-breaker rules. They're crucial in these situations. Most treaties follow a hierarchy of tests: permanent home first, then center of vital interests (personal/economic connections), then habitual abode, and finally nationality. For a company, the tie-breaker often comes down to where the effective management is located - which in the original poster's case would likely be New Zealand since that's where the actual decision-makers are physically located, regardless of where the company is registered.

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Nora Bennett

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Get ready for a paperwork nightmare! I have a similar US/UK situation and end up filing in both countries. The key is finding a good accountant who specializes in international taxation - don't try to DIY this!!

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Ryan Andre

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How much does an international tax accountant usually cost? I'm in a similar boat with income from three different countries and I'm terrified of getting it wrong, but also worried about the cost.

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Zoe Stavros

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Just wanted to add from my experience as a salon owner - I've been doing this for years and always categorize my expenses this way: 1. Regular supplies (shampoo, color, treatment products) go under "Supplies" on Schedule C 2. Small equipment under $2500 (styling tools, iPads, etc.) gets expensed using de minimis 3. Larger equipment (salon chairs, washing stations) gets depreciated For FreeTaxUSA, I group my supplies by category: Hair Products, Styling Products, Treatment Products, etc. Makes it much cleaner and still gives you proper deductions. My tax person confirmed this is the right approach.

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GalaxyGazer

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Thanks for sharing your real-world experience! Do you track your inventory of supplies at all, or just expense them as you buy them throughout the year? My wife sometimes buys in bulk when there are deals.

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Zoe Stavros

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I just expense supplies as I purchase them throughout the year, even when buying in bulk. Unless you're selling these products retail (which would make them inventory), supplies used in services are considered consumed when purchased for tax purposes. When my salon buys in bulk during sales, I still deduct it all in that tax year. The IRS understands this is normal business practice. Just keep your receipts organized in case of an audit, but don't overthink the timing of the deduction. This approach has worked for me for over 15 years without any issues.

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Jamal Harris

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I work for a tax prep company and see this question all the time with our salon clients. Here's the simplified version: De minimis = for small equipment and furniture under $2500 (styling chairs, tools, iPads, etc.) Regular supplies = consumables used in services (shampoo, color, etc.) You're overthinking it! Just put all your wife's consumable supplies under "Supplies" on Schedule C. Group them however makes sense (hair products, color products, etc.) - you don't need to list every single purchase. Make the de minimis election for any equipment purchases under $2500. This is done with a statement attached to your return.

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Mei Chen

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What about things that fall into a gray area? Like those expensive brushes that last a few years but eventually wear out? Or the salon capes that might last 1-2 years? I'm never sure if those should be supplies or de minimis items.

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Has anyone considered that this might actually be classified as volunteer work if there was never an expectation of payment? My wife volunteered at our kid's school and they gave her a tuition discount as a "thank you" but it wasn't considered compensation because there wasn't a formal agreement about the value of her time.

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Chris Elmeda

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That's an interesting perspective! In our case though, there was definitely an established hourly rate. They track my hours precisely and deduct exactly $15 per hour from our tuition bill. The statements even say "Work credit: 12 hours at $15/hr = $180 deduction." So I think in my case it's clearly compensation rather than voluntary work with a thank you gift.

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That's definitely different from what my wife experienced. With that specific hourly tracking and direct correlation between hours worked and tuition reduction, it sounds like a clear employment or contractor relationship. The school should definitely be providing you with tax documentation, either a W-2 if you're an employee or 1099-NEC if you're a contractor.

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Simon White

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You might check with the preschool if they're treating this as a "tuition remission" benefit, which some educational institutions offer to employees. There are specific tax rules around tuition remission that might apply in your situation.

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Hugo Kass

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This is exactly what my daughter's preschool does! They call it "tuition remission" and there's actually a $5,250 tax-free benefit allowance for educational assistance programs if the school sets it up properly under Section 127 of the tax code. Anything above that amount would be taxable though.

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Luca Greco

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I went through this exact situation last year. If you owe $40k, an Offer in Compromise might be your best option, but the acceptance rate is only around 30-40%. The IRS will look at your income, expenses, assets, and ability to pay. Be prepared to provide DETAILED financial statements. They'll basically determine: "What's the most we can reasonably expect to collect from this person?" If that amount is less than what you owe, they might accept a lower offer.

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Thank you for sharing your experience. Did you go through the OIC process yourself? If so, how long did it take from submission to getting a decision?

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Luca Greco

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I did go through the OIC process myself. The entire process took about 8 months from when I submitted my application to receiving final approval. The initial review took about 3 months, then they came back asking for additional documentation about some of my expenses and assets which took another 2 months of back and forth. The final negotiation and approval took another 3 months. During this time, collections activities were suspended which was a huge relief. One important tip: be extremely thorough and accurate with your financial disclosure forms (433-A and 433-B if you have a business). Any discrepancies will delay the process significantly.

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Nia Thompson

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Have you considered bankruptcy? Chapter 7 can sometimes discharge tax debts if they're old enough (generally 3+ years since filing) and meet certain other criteria. Might be worth exploring if your financial situation is truly dire.

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This is risky advice without knowing more details. Tax debt is often NOT dischargeable in bankruptcy unless it meets very specific criteria: - The taxes must be income taxes - The due date for filing the tax return was at least 3 years ago - You filed the tax return at least 2 years before filing bankruptcy - The tax assessment is at least 240 days old - You didn't commit fraud or willful evasion Chapter 7 also has significant long-term consequences. OP should definitely consult with both a tax professional AND a bankruptcy attorney before considering this route.

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