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22 Another tip: if you're using TurboTax Self-Employed, when you get to the business income section, there's actually a specific place to enter payment processor fees. Click on "Business Expenses" then look for "Commissions and Fees" category. That's where PayPal, Stripe, and similar charges should go. Also keep in mind that if you receive over $20,000 AND more than 200 transactions in a year, PayPal will issue you a 1099-K form, and that will show the GROSS amount before fees. So your tax reporting needs to match that gross amount on the 1099-K.
17 The 1099-K threshold changed for 2023 tax year though, right? I thought now they issue them for much smaller amounts, like $600+?
22 You're absolutely right about the threshold change. For tax year 2023, the reporting threshold was supposed to drop to $600 with no minimum transaction count. However, the IRS delayed implementing this lower threshold, so for 2023 taxes, the old $20,000/200 transaction threshold still applies. But for the 2024 tax year (filing in 2025), the threshold is scheduled to be $5,000. The IRS has been gradually phasing in these changes. Always good to check the current year's requirements as they've been adjusting these thresholds recently. Regardless of whether you receive a 1099-K, you still need to report all your income correctly.
5 Does anyone know if you can deduct the PayPal fees if you're not filing a Schedule C? I sometimes do small gigs and get paid through PayPal but I just report it as "Other Income" since it's not really a business.
11 Unfortunately, if you're not filing Schedule C, you generally can't deduct those fees. The "Other Income" line on Form 1040 is for reporting gross income without associated expenses. This is one reason why it might be worth considering if your side gigs actually constitute a business - even a small one - so you can file Schedule C and deduct legitimate expenses.
Have you checked if maybe the letter is about self-employment taxes you didn't pay? When I first did delivery driving, I had no idea I was supposed to pay self-employment tax in addition to income tax. My tax preparer missed it too and I ended up with a huge bill years later. If this is the issue, you might be able to request an abatement of some penalties if you can show reasonable cause (like relying on a professional who gave you bad advice). But unfortunately, you'll probably still owe the base tax amount plus interest. Also, did you keep records of your mileage and other business expenses from that year? If not, you might be getting taxed on your gross income rather than your net profit.
Omg I think that's actually what happened. Looking at the letter more carefully, it mentions something about "self-employment tax assessment" and Form SE. The tax place definitely never mentioned anything about that - they just asked for my 1099 and did the return. I definitely don't have mileage records from 7 years ago. I was just a clueless college kid taking delivery orders. Do you think the tax advocate will still be able to help even if I technically do owe this money? The amount they're asking for is seriously impossible for me to pay.
The Tax Advocate Service can absolutely still help even if you legitimately owe the money. They can help you: 1) Verify that the assessment is actually correct and made within the proper timeframe. Just because you might owe self-employment tax doesn't mean their calculation is correct. 2) Set up a payment plan with terms you can actually manage. If the amount is truly beyond your ability to pay, they might even be able to help with an Offer in Compromise to settle for less than the full amount. The most important thing is to respond and work with the IRS rather than ignoring the notice. The penalties and interest will continue to grow, and eventually, they can take more serious collection actions. The fact that you relied on a professional tax preparer who failed to properly address your self-employment tax obligations might help with penalty abatement, which could significantly reduce what you owe.
Just a heads up, if this issue is about unreported 1099 income, it could fall under the 6-year statute of limitations instead of the standard 3 years. The IRS can go back 6 years if you omitted more than 25% of your gross income. You mentioned it was your first year as a delivery driver - did your tax preparer include a Schedule C for your self-employment income? And did they include a Schedule SE to calculate self-employment tax (the 15.3% tax that covers Social Security and Medicare for self-employed people)? If they missed the Schedule SE completely, that would explain why you got a refund back then but are facing a bill now. The IRS computer systems eventually cross-reference 1099 forms with tax returns and flag these kinds of mismatches.
This is exactly what happened to my brother. His tax preparer included the 1099 income on his return but completely missed the Schedule SE. Four years later, he got hit with a huge bill for the self-employment taxes plus penalties and interest. He ended up having to set up a payment plan for like $80/month for years. The IRS was actually pretty reasonable about the payment terms once he got through to someone.
Just to add my two cents as someone who handles accounting for a small business - yes, we are absolutely required to send 1099-NECs to all qualifying contractors by January 31st. There's no "only if they ask for it" exception. We keep all W9s on file and start preparing 1099s in early January. If your client is waiting for you to send a new W9 each year, they're not following proper procedure. You should only need to provide a W9 once when you start working with them, or if your information changes.
Do businesses face any penalties for not sending 1099s on time? I have a feeling some of my clients just don't care because there's no consequences.
Yes, there are definitely penalties! They range from $50 to $280 per form depending on how late it is and whether the failure to file was intentional. If a business is more than 30 days late, the penalty is $110 per form. After August 1st, it jumps to $280 per form. For intentional disregard, it's $570 per form. The IRS takes this pretty seriously because 1099 reporting is how they verify income is being properly reported. If enough contractors report issues with a particular business, it can trigger a compliance review. Businesses should care not just because of penalties but because proper 1099 filing is often checked during business tax audits.
Has anyone just tried using an online tax portal that automatically imports your 1099 data? I've been using TurboTax Self-Employed and it pulls a lot of my 1099 info directly from the IRS database before I even receive the physical forms from clients.
Has anyone considered the Qualifying Relative vs Qualifying Child categories? If your girlfriend is a full-time student, she might qualify under different rules where the income limit doesn't apply!
That's only for Qualifying Child, not Qualifying Relative. A girlfriend can never be a Qualifying Child because she doesn't meet the relationship test - has to be your actual child, sibling, niece/nephew, etc. Non-relatives can only qualify under the Qualifying Relative test, which always has the income limit.
Remember that when counting support, you include fair market rental value of housing! If she's living with you rent-free in a place that would normally cost $1,200/month, that's $14,400 of support you're providing right there. Makes it much easier to pass the "more than half support" test.
StarStrider
The birth certificate actually doesn't matter for tax purposes. When I went through my divorce, my ex tried to claim our daughter every year despite her living with me full-time. The judge in our case made it very clear: it's about where the child physically resides for the majority of the year (183+ days). Document everything - keep a calendar showing exactly which days your child is with you vs. with him. Save receipts for major expenses (medical, childcare, etc.) to show you're providing support. If he files first and incorrectly claims your son, you'll need to paper file your return and be prepared for a longer refund processing time while the IRS sorts it out.
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Yuki Sato
ā¢Should she get a formal custody agreement ASAP? Seems like that would help with the tax situation too.
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StarStrider
ā¢Absolutely. A formal custody agreement would definitely help clarify the situation, both for tax purposes and beyond. It creates an official record of the parenting time split, which is crucial for determining tax benefits. Even with a formal agreement though, remember that the IRS ultimately follows its own rules about who qualifies as the custodial parent for tax purposes. If the agreement specifies that the father can claim the child despite having less than 50% physical custody, the mother would still need to complete Form 8332 to release her claim. Without that form, the IRS will side with whoever meets the physical residence test.
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Carmen Ruiz
Hey, one thing nobody's mentioned - even if he's not on the birth certificate, has he established legal paternity any other way? In my state, unmarried fathers have to file an acknowledgment of paternity before they have any legal rights to the child at all. If he hasn't legally established paternity, he might not even be able to claim the child regardless of the custody situation. Just something else to consider.
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Andre Lefebvre
ā¢This is a really good point! My brother went through something similar. The mom wouldn't put him on the birth certificate, and he had to legally establish paternity before he could even file for any custody rights or visitation. The tax stuff was completely off the table until that was resolved.
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