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Have you tried looking at the actual tax forms that were submitted? If you go to your TurboTax account, you should be able to download a PDF of your actual submitted return. Check Form 1040 specifically and look at the filing status checkbox that was selected and whether the dependents section is filled out correctly. I had a similar issue last year and discovered that somehow my dependents weren't linked to my return even though I had entered all their information. The PDF showed what was actually sent to the IRS versus what I thought I was submitting.
Thanks for the suggestion! I just downloaded the PDF from TurboTax and you're right - the form shows "Single" checked even though the TurboTax interface was showing "Married Filing Separately" throughout the whole process. And the dependents section only lists one of my children, not both! No wonder the refund dropped so much. Should I file an amended return now or try to contact the IRS first?
I would recommend filing an amended return (Form 1040-X) as soon as possible. The IRS won't automatically fix this kind of error, and waiting for them to contact you could take months and potentially lead to issues with your refund. When you file the amendment, make sure to clearly indicate that you're changing from Single to Married Filing Separately and adding the missing dependent. Include all required supporting documentation for the dependent claim. If you do this quickly, it might not significantly delay your refund, though amended returns typically take longer to process than original returns.
I'm a little confused... if you and your wife are still together, why did you choose Married Filing Separately instead of Married Filing Jointly? MFJ usually gives better tax benefits in most situations, especially when one spouse isn't working. You might actually get an even bigger refund if you change to MFJ.
Not always true! There are situations where MFS makes more sense, like if one spouse has income-based student loan payments, certain medical deductions, or if there are liability concerns. My husband and I file separately because it significantly lowers my income-based repayment for student loans.
We chose MFS mainly because of my wife's student loan situation. She's on an income-based repayment plan, and filing jointly would increase her required payments since they'd be based on our combined income. We've run the numbers both ways and even with the tax benefits of MFJ, we still come out ahead with MFS when factoring in the loan payment savings. What's frustrating is that I carefully selected MFS but somehow TurboTax changed it to Single without clearly showing me that change was happening. I need to get this fixed ASAP!
One thing nobody's mentioned yet - if you're planning to hold for 10 years, consider using a tax-advantaged account like a Roth IRA instead of a regular brokerage account. With a Roth, you won't pay ANY taxes on that $10k growth when you withdraw in retirement. There are income limits and contribution limits to be aware of though.
Thats a really good point - I didnt even think about using a retirement account! Arent there penalties though if I need to take the money out before retirement age?
Yes, there are penalties if you withdraw the earnings before age 59ยฝ - typically a 10% penalty plus taxes. However, you can always withdraw your original contributions (not the earnings) from a Roth IRA at any time without penalties or taxes. So in your example, you could always take out the original $20k anytime you want with no penalty. Only the $10k in gains would be subject to penalties for early withdrawal. This makes Roth IRAs more flexible than other retirement accounts while still giving you the tax advantages.
Another option is tax-loss harvesting if youve got investments that go down. Basically you sell losers to offset any gains in a given year. I saved about $1200 in taxes last year doing this strategically.
But be careful with wash sale rules! If you buy the same or "substantially identical" stock within 30 days before or after selling at a loss, you can't claim that loss for tax purposes. I learned this the hard way.
I work for a financial institution (not a broker though) and can confirm what others have said about foreign securities. These late allocations aren't just about timing but also about finalizing how the distribution is classified for US tax purposes. Foreign companies don't always initially know how their dividends will be treated under US tax code. Sometimes it takes their accounting department months to finalize the proper classification (qualified vs non-qualified, dividend vs return of capital, etc). What you experienced is annoying but completely legitimate from a tax reporting perspective.
i had this exact thing happen with a japnese stock! the difference was like $6 in taxes so i just ignored it lol. but my accountant told me that with the international ones they sometimes do these "dividend adjustments" that are technically for the previous year. its super annying for tax purposes but i guess thats how they do things ๐คทโโ๏ธ def not worth filing a whole amended return for such a small amount. AI: I'll transform the forum content according to the provided guidelines.
You might want to check with your state's Department of Labor. In some states, employers have legal obligations regarding proper withholding. Save copies of your W-4 form if you still have it, along with all your pay stubs showing the lack of federal withholding. Also, ask your coworkers discreetly if they experienced the same issue. If your employer did this to multiple people, that strengthens your case that this was a systemic problem, not just a one-off error.
That's a good point about checking with coworkers. I'm friendly with a couple other people who started around the same time as me. I'll ask them to check their W-2s too. Do you know how I would go about filing a complaint with the Department of Labor if it turns out this happened to others too?
Most state Department of Labor websites have an online complaint form specifically for wage and hour violations, which would include improper withholding issues. Look for sections labeled "wage complaints" or "workplace rights" on your state DOL website. Before filing, gather all your documentation: your original W-4 showing you selected single with zero dependents, several pay stubs showing no federal withholding, your W-2 confirming zero withholding for the year, and any written communication with your employer about the issue. If coworkers had the same experience, ask if they'd be willing to be mentioned in your complaint.
Your situation sucks but employers actually aren't legally responsible for paying taxes they failed to withhold. I've been a payroll manager for 12 years and have seen this happen before. Your best option is to: 1) File your taxes on time even if you can't pay 2) Set up a payment plan with the IRS 3) Adjust your W-4 for extra withholding this year to prevent a repeat Your HR person was totally wrong about college students not owing taxes though. That's complete nonsense.
Carmen Ruiz
Maybe consider a third approach that worked for me: hire a bookkeeper for just her tutoring business. For my wife's art sales, we hired a college student studying accounting for like $25/hour who comes once a month, sorts through her receipts, and maintains simple income/expense tracking. This removes the personal tension between you two and creates accountability with an outside person. My wife doesn't mind showing her "financial mess" to the bookkeeper since there's no judgment, and it's been worth EVERY penny for our marriage!
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Andre Lefebvre
โขWouldn't a bookkeeper be expensive for just a small tutoring income? Seems like overkill unless she's making significant money from it.
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Zoe Alexopoulos
Don't forget that ultimately YOU are responsible too if you sign a joint return. My ex-husband had unreported income and guess who the IRS came after years later? BOTH OF US! Even after we were divorced! I had to file for innocent spouse relief which was a nightmare to prove. Either get her to cooperate, file separately, or prepare for potential consequences. The IRS doesn't care about your marriage dynamics, they just want their money and proper reporting.
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