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Something nobody's mentioned is that you should make sure you enter the 401k distribution correctly in your tax software. When I did this last year, TurboTax initially calculated that I owed the 10% penalty because I didn't check the right exemption box. Double check that you've properly indicated any applicable exceptions to the penalty. Also, while the 20% withholding will be counted toward your total tax, remember the distribution itself will be added to your income, which could potentially push you into a higher tax bracket or reduce some of your credits. Every situation is different - it might be worth consulting with a tax professional given your specific circumstances.
Thanks for bringing this up. I'm worried about how the 401K distribution might affect our Earned Income Credit. Do you know if retirement distributions count as income for calculating the EIC? We're really counting on that credit this year with our reduced income.
Yes, 401k distributions do count as income for calculating the Earned Income Credit, which is something to be aware of. The distribution could potentially reduce your EIC amount since it increases your AGI. However, it won't completely disqualify you if your overall income still falls within the EIC thresholds. For the Child Tax Credit, the same principle applies - the 401k distribution increases your income, which could affect the amount you receive if you're near a phase-out threshold. In your specific situation though, if you're truly below the poverty line even after counting the distribution, you'll likely still qualify for the full credits, but it's definitely something to watch when you're preparing your return.
Were you able to document the foundation repairs as a qualified hardship? I had to take a 401k withdrawal for medical expenses last year and was able to avoid the 10% penalty entirely by showing that the expenses exceeded 7.5% of my adjusted gross income. The financial institution still withheld the 20% for taxes, but I got that back when I filed because my actual tax rate was lower. Just make sure you keep ALL receipts and documentation from the foundation repair. The IRS can request proof up to 3 years after you file.
One thing nobody's mentioned yet - make sure you understand the timing requirements for S-Corp election. You need to file Form 2553 within 2 months and 15 days of the beginning of the tax year you want the election to take effect. If you miss that window, you're generally stuck waiting until next year (though there are some late election relief options). Also, keep in mind that an S-Corp must have a calendar year end (Dec 31). And once you start having the company pay your LLC, you'll need to keep clean books, potentially open a separate business bank account, and make sure you're segregating business and personal expenses.
That's super helpful info about the timing! So if I want this for 2025 tax year, I'd need to file the S-Corp election by March 15, 2025? What if I form the LLC now in 2024 - does that change anything with the timing?
If you form your LLC now in 2024 but want the S-Corp election to take effect for the 2025 tax year, you would need to file Form 2553 by March 15, 2025. If you plan to operate the LLC for the remainder of 2024 before the S-Corp election kicks in, your LLC would be taxed as either a sole proprietorship (single-member LLC) or partnership (multi-member LLC) by default for 2024, and then as an S-Corp starting January 1, 2025. During that interim period before the S-Corp election takes effect, you'd still be subject to self-employment tax on all profits. Many people form their LLC in Q4 of the year and then immediately file the S-Corp election for the upcoming year to minimize this interim period.
Has anyone considered the other costs involved with S-Corps? I'm looking at this same transition and discovered: 1. State franchise tax in my state (CA) is $800 minimum per year just to have an LLC 2. I need a registered agent ($100-300/yr) 3. Payroll service fees ($40-60/month) 4. Accountant fees for S-Corp tax return (~$1000+) 5. Bookkeeping software ($25+/month) Plus the hassle of running payroll, maintaining corporate minutes, etc. Seems like you need to be making good money for this to be worth it.
I'm in TX and we don't have the state franchise tax, so that saves a lot! My accountant says the breakeven point is around $60-70k in profit - below that and the administrative costs eat up the SE tax savings. Above $100k is where you really start seeing the benefits.
4 Something important nobody's mentioned yet - check if your parents are claiming you as a dependent on their US taxes! If they are, you can't claim education credits yourself. They would have to claim them based on any expenses they actually paid for your education. I learned this the hard way last year when both my parents and I tried claiming my education expenses (they paid for my housing, I paid for books and materials), and it caused a whole mess with the IRS that took months to sort out.
2 This is super important info! How can you check if your parents are claiming you? My parents and I don't really talk about taxes, but I'm pretty sure they might be claiming me since they send me some money every month for living expenses. Would that disqualify me completely?
4 The most direct way to check is simply to ask your parents if they're claiming you as a dependent. There's no database you can access to verify this yourself. If your parents are sending you money for living expenses, that doesn't automatically mean they're claiming you. The dependency test is more complex than that - it involves your age, student status, how much of your own support you provide, and other factors. If you provide more than half of your own total support for the year, your parents generally can't claim you even if they help with some expenses.
10 Quick tip about documenting those second-hand book purchases without receipts: take photos of the books with the course number and your name visible, screenshots of any electronic transfers you made to pay for them, and keep a spreadsheet with dates, amounts, and course information. Also save your course syllabi that show these materials were required. I did this for my study abroad in Spain, and it was enough documentation when I claimed the Lifetime Learning Credit. I got about $200 back, which wasn't huge but definitely helped!
23 This is super helpful! Would Venmo or PayPal transfers to classmates count as documentation? That's how I've been paying for most of my secondhand books.
Don't forget about state taxes on capital gains too! Depending on your state, you might owe additional tax on those gains. Some states tax capital gains at the same rate as ordinary income, while others have their own special rates. I got hit with an unexpected state tax bill last year because I only focused on federal.
Ugh I didn't even think about state taxes! I'm in California - does anyone know how they handle capital gains? Is it just added to regular income?
California taxes all capital gains as ordinary income at your marginal tax rate, which can go as high as 13.3% for high-income earners. There's no special capital gains rate like there is federally. So your $32,000 in gains will be taxed at your regular CA income tax rate. For other readers: States vary widely in how they handle capital gains. Some like Nevada, Florida, Texas, Washington, and Wyoming have no state income tax at all, so no capital gains tax. Others like New Hampshire only tax investment income.
Anyone know if tax loss harvesting is still worth it for offsetting capital gains? I have some stocks that are down about $8k this year and wondering if I should sell them to offset some of my gains from other investments.
Absolutely worth it! You can offset capital gains completely with capital losses, and if your losses exceed your gains, you can deduct up to $3,000 against ordinary income. Any remaining losses can be carried forward to future years. Just be careful of wash sale rules if you plan to buy back similar investments within 30 days.
Sofia Torres
Don't forget about self-employed retirement plans! If you had any self-employment income in 2023 (even side gig stuff), you might be eligible for a SEP IRA contribution which could significantly reduce your AGI. You can contribute up to 25% of your net self-employment income, up to a max of $66,000 for 2023. The best part is you can establish and fund a SEP IRA up until your tax filing deadline INCLUDING EXTENSIONS. So if you extend your return to October, you have until then to fund it!
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GalaxyGlider
ā¢Thanks for mentioning this! I actually did do some freelance work last year that I reported on Schedule C. Would I need to open a specific type of account for this SEP IRA thing? And does the contribution have to be from the freelance income specifically or can it come from my savings?
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Sofia Torres
ā¢You'll need to open a specific SEP IRA account at a brokerage like Vanguard, Fidelity, or Schwab. Most have simple online applications and you can designate it as a SEP IRA during the account creation process. The contribution can come from any of your personal funds - it doesn't have to be directly from your freelance earnings. The important thing is that your contribution can't exceed 25% of your net self-employment income (after deducting expenses and the self-employment tax deduction). If you made $10,000 in net profit from freelancing, you could contribute up to about $2,500 to a SEP IRA which would directly reduce your AGI by that amount.
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Dmitry Sokolov
Has anyone tried making qualified charitable distributions from an IRA to reduce AGI? My tax guy mentioned this but I'm not sure if it works or if there's an age requirement.
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Ava Martinez
ā¢Qualified Charitable Distributions (QCDs) only work if you're 70.5 years or older, and they're made directly from your IRA to the charity. They don't technically reduce your AGI but they do reduce your taxable income. If you're younger, regular charitable contributions won't reduce AGI either - they're itemized deductions that come after AGI is calculated.
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