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Something similar happened to me last year. Turns out my identity had been stolen and the IRS automatically assigned me an IP PIN without clearly notifying me. Check your mom's IRS online account if she has one set up. Sometimes they post important notices there without sending physical mail. If she doesn't have an online account yet, she should create one at irs.gov. It might reveal notices or account flags that weren't mentioned during the phone call. Also double check that the IRS has her current mailing address - they might have sent the IP PIN to an old address.

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Diego Vargas

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can tax professionals request ip pins for clients? my accountant mentioned something about that but im not sure if that applies to this situation

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Tax professionals cannot request IP PINs specifically for clients - the IRS issues them directly to taxpayers either because they've been victims of identity theft or because they've voluntarily opted into the IP PIN program. However, tax professionals with proper authorization (Form 2848 Power of Attorney) can contact the IRS on behalf of clients to resolve account issues, including IP PIN problems. They have access to the Practitioner Priority Service, which often has shorter wait times than the regular taxpayer hotline. If your accountant suggested they could help, they probably meant using their professional channels to contact the IRS about your situation, not actually requesting a PIN themselves.

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Try calling the dedicated IRS Identity Theft hotline at 800-908-4490. Regular IRS customer service sometimes doesn't have full access to identity protection flags on accounts. I had a similar issue where my return was rejected for an IP PIN I never received. Turns out my info was compromised in a data breach and the IRS automatically put extra security on my account without sending proper notification. The identity theft department was able to see that a PIN had been generated and either resend it or remove the requirement so I could file. Good luck!

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Thanks for this specific advice! Do you remember how long it took from when you called this special number until you were able to successfully file your return? I'm getting really worried about missing the deadline.

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It was pretty quick once I got through to the right department. I called on a Tuesday, they verified my identity and cleared the flag in their system during that call, and I was able to e-file successfully the next day. They also provided documentation showing I had been working to resolve the issue in case there were any questions about filing deadlines. If you're getting close to the deadline and still can't resolve it, make sure to file Form 4868 for an automatic extension. That will give you until October to file the actual return without late filing penalties. Just remember an extension to file isn't an extension to pay, so if your mom will owe anything, she should estimate and pay that amount when filing the extension.

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Be careful about hiring CPAs through random reddit recommendations. Always check their credentials and reviews online first! No offense to the person above, but there are a lot of scams out there.

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Have you considered using a tax professional who isn't necessarily a CPA? Enrolled Agents (EAs) are also certified by the IRS to represent taxpayers, and they often specialize more in tax issues than CPAs who might focus more broadly on accounting. Sometimes they're more affordable too. I've been using an EA for years for my tax planning and she's been fantastic.

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Confused about 1098-T form showing $0 in box 1 but thousands in box 5 for scholarships?

I'm totally lost with this 1098-T situation and hoping someone can help me make sense of it. I finished my master's program in May 2023 and started working at a new job in June. I'm filing independently (not a dependent on anyone's taxes). My income was around $42k for the year. I didn't get any advance tax credits so I'll be claiming those on my return. I was using FreeTaxUSA to file but ran into a weird issue with my 1098-T form. My university sent me a 1098-T with box 1 (Payments received for qualified tuition and related expenses) completely empty, but box 5 (scholarships or grants) shows $2,500. I did receive that $2,500 scholarship, but I can't figure out why box 1 is showing $0. The way it is now, the $2,500 scholarship is being added to my taxable income and reducing my refund. Here's the confusing part - I was enrolled full-time for the spring 2023 semester from January through May, and I definitely paid tuition in January 2023 (I have all the statements). When I called the university's financial office, they told me it's not a mistake because my spring 2023 tuition was billed in December 2022, so the payments I made in January 2023 aren't considered qualified expenses for tax year 2023??? This makes no sense to me because the 1098-T specifically says the tax year when payments were ACTUALLY RECEIVED by the university should be reported in box 1. FreeTaxUSA keeps asking me to verify that box 1 is really $0, multiple times. Then it asks if I paid any tuition for 2023 that was billed in another tax year. When I say yes and enter the amount from my statement, my refund increases by like $3,000. This seems right to me, but I'm worried I'm missing something and don't want to end up owing the IRS a bunch of money plus interest. For reference, in December 2022, I was billed $11,500 for spring 2023 tuition and fees. On January 5, 2023, my account shows the $2,500 scholarship applied. On January 9, 2023, my statement shows payment (from federal student loans and a private loan) of $9,000. Can anyone help me understand what's going on here?

I worked in a university bursar's office for 8 years and can tell you this happens ALL THE TIME. The issue is that colleges often bill for spring semester in November/December of the previous year, but students don't actually pay until January. The IRS changed the rules in 2018 to require reporting based on when payment was RECEIVED, not when it was billed, but many schools' systems haven't fully updated. The key is looking at your actual payment date. If you paid in January 2023, that's a 2023 qualified education expense, period. Your tax software is correctly asking if you paid expenses in 2023 that were billed in another year - that's EXACTLY your situation. Also, don't forget that textbooks and required course materials are qualified education expenses too, even though they don't show up on the 1098-T at all. Keep those receipts!

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Kiara Greene

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Thank you so much for this insider perspective! It's so frustrating that the university financial office wasn't more helpful when I called. One more question - since my spring 2023 semester went from January to May, would all of those expenses count for tax year 2023? Even though some of the semester was in 2022 when I was billed?

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What matters is when you paid, not when you were billed or when you took the classes. If you paid in January 2023, those are 2023 qualified education expenses, even if they were billed in 2022. The semester timing (January-May) isn't relevant for determining which tax year the expenses belong to. It's purely based on the payment date. So yes, the entire payment you made in January 2023 counts for tax year 2023, regardless of when the semester started or ended.

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Diez Ellis

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Has anyone else noticed that their tax refund changes dramatically when entering the 1098-T information? When I first entered mine (also with $0 in box 1), my refund went DOWN by $2800! Then when I added my actual payment date and amount for spring semester, it went back UP by $3000. This is confusing as hell.

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That's because of how education credits work. When you enter scholarship money (box 5) without any qualified expenses (box 1), the scholarship becomes taxable income, which LOWERS your refund. But when you add in your qualified expenses, it both makes the scholarship non-taxable AND potentially gives you education credits like the American Opportunity Credit which can be worth up to $2,500. Double win!

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NebulaNinja

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Just to add a data point here - I'm also Canadian and do occasional work in the US. For amounts under $500, I've had about half of organizations ask for Form 8233 and half accept just the W-8BEN. There's a lot of confusion on the US side about the right documentation for small payments to foreigners. If this is a one-time thing and you don't plan to work with them again, it might be worth just completing the form. It's annoying but not actually that difficult once you understand what they're looking for. The key parts are: 1. Article XVI of the US-Canada treaty 2. Statement that you're a Canadian resident 3. Explanation that you're only temporarily in the US 4. Mention that your US source income for the year is below the treaty threshold

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Ravi Patel

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Thanks so much for this breakdown! You're right, it's just a one-time workshop so probably easier to just fill it out. Do you know if I need to include my SIN number on the form? I'm always hesitant to share that with organizations outside Canada.

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NebulaNinja

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Yes, unfortunately you do need to include your SIN as your "foreign tax identifying number" on the form. I understand the hesitation, but it's a requirement for treaty benefits. If it helps ease your mind, legitimate US organizations (especially non-profits) are required to maintain confidentiality of tax identification numbers under IRS regulations. They need your SIN to properly report the payment to the IRS, so there's no way around providing it if you want the treaty benefits.

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Luca Russo

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Just FYI for Canadians filling out Form 8233 - make sure to check if your specific profession might have different treaty provisions! I'm a university professor and there's actually a specific article in the treaty just for teachers and researchers that gives different exemptions than the general Article XVI provision.

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Nia Wilson

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Artists also have some special provisions in the US-Canada treaty. If you're selling artwork rather than providing a service like teaching a workshop, different rules might apply. The distinction matters for tax purposes.

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For what it's worth, I made this exact same mistake last year (forgot a 1099-MISC for about $2000). I just filled out Form 1040-X and Schedule C by hand, printed them, and mailed them in with a check for the additional tax I owed. Took about 30 minutes to complete the forms - just had to copy most info from my original return and then add the additional income. Yes, you'll need to pay the extra tax, but there's no penalty if you file the amendment before they catch the mistake. Don't stress too much! The IRS deals with this all the time.

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Emma Davis

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Do you remember roughly how long it took for the IRS to process your amendment? I've heard horror stories about amendments taking 6+ months to process.

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It took about 10 weeks for my amendment to be processed last year, which was faster than I expected. The IRS website said to allow up to 16 weeks, but mine was done sooner. Just make sure you don't make any mistakes on the form itself - double-check all your math and ensure you're using the correct tax year form. I also included a brief explanation statement that simply said "Reporting additional income from 1099-MISC that was received after original filing." Keep it simple and straightforward.

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LunarLegend

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I've been a tax preparer for 6 years and I see this ALL THE TIME. The fact that tax software companies charge extra for amendments is one of my biggest frustrations with the industry. Just a warning - if you don't amend, the IRS WILL catch this eventually through their document matching program. The company that issued you the 1099-MISC already reported it to the IRS. When they notice the discrepancy, they'll send you a CP2000 notice with additional tax due PLUS interest and possibly penalties. Bottom line: filing an amendment yourself now will be cheaper than waiting for the IRS to find it.

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How much are the penalties typically if the IRS catches it first vs if you amend voluntarily? I'm in a similar situation but with a larger 1099 amount ($5,800) that I forgot to include.

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