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For anyone still looking, I found a workaround in FreeTaxUSA. If you can't find the specific ESPP entry form, you can actually report it as "Other Income" and just put a description like "ESPP Discount - Form 3922" and enter the discount amount. It's not the most accurate way to do it, but it ensures the income gets reported. Just make sure you keep good records of your cost basis for when you sell the shares later. The main thing is that the discount gets reported as ordinary income.
Is that really correct though? Won't that cause issues when you sell the shares later? I thought there was a specific way you had to report ESPPs to make sure the basis gets tracked correctly.
You're right that it's not ideal. The proper way is definitely through the Stock Options section I mentioned. The "Other Income" approach is really just a last resort if you absolutely cannot find the proper entry point. When you later sell the shares, you'll need to manually calculate and enter the correct adjusted basis. It's much better to use the proper ESPP entry screens which will help track your basis automatically and ensure everything is reported correctly on your tax forms.
Am I the only one who thinks it's ridiculous that tax software makes it so hard to find where to enter common tax forms? Companies are increasingly offering ESPPs and I get this form every year, but I spend hours trying to figure out where to enter it correctly.
You're definitely not alone. I switched from FreeTaxUSA to TaxSlayer last year because of this exact issue. The problem is that most tax software is designed for "typical" W-2 employees without stock compensation. As soon as you have slightly more complex situations, it becomes a treasure hunt.
If you're getting a refund, you actually have 3 years to file before you lose it completely. So while you should file ASAP, you're not in danger of losing your money yet. Just make sure you file by April 2027 (for 2024 taxes). Fun fact - the IRS had over $1 billion in unclaimed refunds from people who never filed their 2019 returns and the deadline to claim those expired last year!
Seriously? So many people just left money on the table? That's crazy! Is there anything special we need to do when filing super late, like 2+ years late?
Nope, there's nothing special you need to do for filing super late returns. You use the same forms that were applicable for that tax year (which is important - you need to use 2024 forms for 2024 taxes, not current year forms). The only real difference is you typically can't e-file tax returns from more than 3 years ago, so you'd need to mail in physical forms. The amount of unclaimed refunds is shocking, right? Most of it is from people who earned too little to be required to file but would have received refundable credits if they had filed. A lot of college students and part-time workers fall into this category.
Does anyone know if I can still contribute to an IRA for 2024 at this point to reduce my tax bill? Or is that deadline passed too?
The deadline for IRA contributions for a tax year is always the original tax filing deadline (usually April 15 of the following year), regardless of whether you file for an extension or file late. So unfortunately for 2024 taxes, that deadline passed in April 2025. You can still make IRA contributions now, but they'll count toward the 2025 tax year.
I'm in a similar boat but with rental property sales. Just a note on capital gains - don't forget state taxes too! Depending on where you live, states can take a significant bite on top of federal capital gains taxes. I'm in California and was shocked at how much extra I owed to the state when I sold some investment property last year.
Do you know if there's any way to offset or reduce state capital gains taxes? Do strategies like 401k contributions work for state taxes too?
Generally, 401k contributions will reduce your state taxable income as well as federal, so that strategy works for both. In most states, their tax system is linked to the federal system, so deductions that work federally often work at the state level too. Some states have unique quirks though. A few states offer special capital gains exclusions for in-state investments or specific industries. And nine states (Alaska, Florida, Nevada, New Hampshire, South Dakota, Tennessee, Texas, Washington, and Wyoming) don't have income tax at all, so capital gains are only taxed federally if you live there.
Has anyone used tax-loss harvesting to offset capital gains? I'm thinking about selling some underperforming stocks to balance out my gains but not sure if it's worth it or how exactly it works.
Tax-loss harvesting can be a great strategy. Basically, you can use investment losses to offset your capital gains dollar-for-dollar. If your losses exceed your gains, you can even use up to $3,000 of those losses to offset ordinary income, with any remaining losses carrying forward to future years. Just be careful about the wash-sale rule - if you sell an investment at a loss and buy the same or a "substantially identical" investment within 30 days before or after the sale, you can't claim the loss for tax purposes.
Don't overlook state R&D credits too! Many states have their own research credit programs with different documentation requirements. In California, for example, the documentation requirements are similar to federal but they specifically want more details on how the research benefits California operations. Always check your state tax authority websites for their specific requirements. Some states are stricter than the IRS, while others are more lenient. Could be leaving money on the table if you only focus on federal credits.
Do you know if you need to file the state R&D credits at the same time as the federal ones? Or can you do federal first and then state later after you've seen if the federal ones are accepted?
You generally can file them separately with different timelines. Most states don't require that you've been approved for the federal credit before claiming the state credit, though some states do require you to at least have claimed the federal credit. The advantage of filing them together is that your documentation will be fresh and consistent. If you wait too long between filings, you might find discrepancies in your documentation which could raise red flags in an audit. But there's no technical requirement to file simultaneously in most states.
Has anyone successfully claimed R&D credits for software development projects? We have a fintech app that required significant experimental development to integrate with banking APIs. Would this qualify? And what kind of documentation should we be keeping?
I've successfully claimed R&D credits for software development for 3 years now. The key is documenting the technical uncertainty you faced. Keep all technical specifications, design documents, meeting notes discussing technical challenges, repository commit messages, and testing documentation. The IRS wants to see that you were developing something truly innovative - not just implementing known techniques. Track time specifically spent on experimental development vs. routine coding. For your fintech integration, focus on documenting the technical uncertainties you faced when developing the integration and how you systematically evaluated alternatives.
Sofia Ramirez
Just to simplify AGI calculation: 1. Start with ALL income (wages, 1099, interest, dividends, capital gains, etc) 2. Subtract ONLY "above-the-line" deductions: - Traditional IRA contributions - Student loan interest - HSA contributions - Self-employed health insurance - SEP/SIMPLE/401k contributions for self-employed - Alimony paid (for pre-2019 divorces) - Educator expenses - Some business expenses Taxes withheld throughout the year have NOTHING to do with AGI. And standard/itemized deductions come AFTER AGI calculation.
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Dmitry Volkov
β’What about 401k contributions through my employer? And health insurance premiums? I'm confused if those count as "above-the-line" deductions or not.
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Sofia Ramirez
β’Employer 401k contributions and pre-tax health insurance premiums are already excluded from your W-2 Box 1 wages. They've already reduced your reported income before you even start calculating AGI. That's why they don't appear as separate "above-the-line" deductions on your tax return - they've already been accounted for. This is different from things like traditional IRA contributions which you make separately from your paycheck, so those need to be deducted as a specific adjustment to income.
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StarSeeker
One thing that helped me understand AGI is looking at the 1040 form itself. If you look at the first page of your 1040, everything above the "adjusted gross income" line (line 11 on recent forms) is part of the AGI calculation. This includes all your income sources at the top, then all those adjustments/deductions in the "Income" section. Anything listed in the "Adjusted Gross Income" section gets subtracted to arrive at your final AGI. Standard/itemized deductions and qualified business income deductions all come AFTER the AGI line, so they don't affect AGI calculation at all.
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Zoe Stavros
β’Thank you SO MUCH to everyone who responded. This makes so much more sense now. So in my original example with $230k gross income and $9,800 in deductions, my AGI would depend on WHICH deductions those are. If those $9,800 were all "above-the-line" deductions like traditional IRA, HSA, etc., then my AGI would be $220,200. But if some of those deductions were itemized deductions like mortgage interest or charitable donations, those wouldn't affect my AGI at all. And the $78k in taxes I paid throughout the year is completely irrelevant to AGI calculation. This clears up my confusion completely!
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