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Still waiting on amended returns for 2020 and 2022 - filed all three years in January

I submitted amended returns for tax years 2020, 2021, and 2022 back on January 3rd. It's been over two months now, and I've only received confirmation that they processed my 2021 amended return. I can't figure out if they're working on my 2020 and 2022 returns or if something went wrong. When I check "Where's My Amended Return" tool online, it just shows the 2021 status but nothing about the other years. This is driving me crazy because I'm expecting decent refunds from both the 2020 and 2022 amendments (about $2,100 and $1,750 respectively). Does anyone know the best number to call at the IRS to check on multiple amended returns? I've tried the general line but keep getting the automated message saying they're too busy. Is there a specific department that handles amended returns that might be less swamped?

If you filed paper amended returns, be prepared to wait even longer. My 2020 amended return took 11 months to process last year, while my 2021 (filed at the same time) was done in about 5 months. There's absolutely no rhyme or reason to how they process these things. One tip: if you're approaching the 3-year deadline for claiming a refund on any of those years, make sure you keep proof of when you submitted the amended return. The IRS has to honor the date you filed even if they process it after the deadline.

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I did mail paper returns for all three years because I had to include some supporting documentation. Did you do anything special to make the process go faster for the 2021 return?

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I didn't do anything special for the 2021 return - it just happened to get processed faster. Paper returns are unfortunately at the mercy of whichever processing center they get sent to and how backed up that specific location is. One thing I learned later is that you can actually e-file amended returns for tax years 2019 and later using certain tax software, even with supporting documentation (you can scan and attach PDFs). E-filed amendments tend to process much faster than paper ones. For future reference, that might be a better option if you ever need to amend again.

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Has anyone tried going to their local IRS Taxpayer Assistance Center? I had a similar situation last year and made an appointment at my local office. The agent there was able to look up all my amended returns and give me specific information about each one. You have to call 844-545-5640 to make an appointment though - they don't take walk-ins.

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I did this for my amended returns too. The in-person agent was WAY more helpful than phone support. She even spotted a mistake in my 2019 amendment that would have caused issues and let me fix it on the spot.

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That's great to hear your experience was similar! The in-person assistance is definitely underrated. The agents at the Taxpayer Assistance Centers seem to have more time to thoroughly review your situation compared to phone agents who are trying to get through as many calls as possible. I've found they can also sometimes expedite processing if you have a legitimate hardship situation or if there's been an unusually long delay. Did they offer to help speed things up in your case?

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Tax reporting for homegrown dividends - tracking principle reduction

I've been reading Ken Fisher's stuff about homegrown dividends, and I'm trying to figure out if there's a specific tax schedule or form where I need to track the reduction in principle when I'm filing my taxes. For those who aren't familiar, from what I understand, homegrown dividends basically means that instead of withdrawing from investment growth or realizing capital gains (which would be taxable), you're withdrawing from your original principle investment, which should be tax-free. I've started using this strategy with part of my portfolio, but I'm confused about how to properly document this on my tax return. Do I need to keep a separate spreadsheet? Is there an IRS form specifically for tracking principle withdrawals? I don't want to accidentally trigger any tax issues or get flagged for audit because I'm not reporting something correctly. Any advice from people who've been doing this would be really helpful!

One approach I've found helpful is using the specific identification method when selling investments. This lets me choose exactly which shares to sell - typically the ones with the highest basis to minimize gains. Most brokerages allow this now, and it's much more tax-efficient than FIFO or average cost methods. For tracking, I just maintain a simple spreadsheet with columns for: - Original investment date and amount - Growth (unrealized gains) - Principal withdrawals (date and amount) - Remaining principal available for tax-free withdrawal Works well for my homegrown dividend strategy and takes minimal time to maintain.

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Do you have to notify your brokerage which specific shares you want to sell before the sale, or can you do it afterward when filing taxes?

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You need to specify which shares you want to sell at the time of the sale - you can't decide later when filing taxes. Most online brokerages have an option during the sell process where you can choose "Specific Identification" instead of FIFO (First In, First Out) or average cost. When you choose specific identification, you'll be able to select the exact lots (shares purchased on specific dates at specific prices) that you want to sell. This gives you maximum control over the tax implications of your sales and is essential for an effective homegrown dividend strategy.

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Has anyone here dealt with homegrown dividends in retirement accounts vs taxable accounts? I'm trying to figure out how this works with my Roth IRA where the contributions are already post-tax.

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For Roth IRAs, the withdrawal rules are a bit different. You can always withdraw your contributions (principal) tax and penalty free at any time. It's actually even simpler than with taxable accounts because you don't need to worry about specific identification of lots. The IRS considers withdrawals from Roth IRAs to come from contributions first, then conversions, then earnings. So you can just keep track of your total contributions over the years, and as long as your withdrawals don't exceed that amount, they're completely tax-free.

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How to explain taxes to your kid in a way they'll actually understand?

So I've got this bright 11-year-old who's suddenly super curious about money after getting her first allowance. Yesterday she asked me why I "give away so much money to the government" when she saw me working on my taxes. I was totally caught off guard! I stumbled through some explanation about roads and schools, but her eyes glazed over pretty quick. Anyone have creative ways to explain taxes to kids without making them bored to tears? She's pretty good with math for her age, so I'm wondering if there are any activities or examples I could use that might actually stick. I remember my parents never explained this stuff to me and I was completely clueless about taxes until my first job at 16. Would love some ideas beyond just "taxes pay for stuff we all use" because that didn't seem to satisfy her curiosity at all! TIA!

Something that worked great with my kids was creating a mini economy at home! Each kid gets "paid" for chores, then we collect "income tax" (15%) and "property tax" for their bedrooms (flat amount). The collected taxes go into a family fund that we use for things everyone benefits from - like pizza night or a movie rental. When they complained about taxes, we tried a week without them - but also without the shared benefits. No pizza, no movie night, no restocking their favorite snacks. They quickly realized that pooling resources sometimes makes sense!

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This sounds like a fantastic idea! Did you have any specific way you tracked everything? I'm worried about making it too complicated but love the real-world application.

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Nothing fancy! We just use a simple chart on the refrigerator with magnets. Each kid has a section with their weekly "income" from chores, then two columns showing taxes collected and take-home pay. The family fund is a jar on the counter where the tax money goes. You definitely want to keep it simple - the point is just to visualize the concept, not create an accounting nightmare for yourself! My kids actually get excited on "budget day" when we decide how to spend the family fund. Sometimes they even vote to save it for something bigger. It's been a great lesson in collective decision-making too.

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Using Monopoly worked wonders for my kids! We play with real tax rules - 10% income tax when passing GO (instead of the full $200, they get $180), luxury tax on the fancy properties, and we even added property tax based on houses/hotels. Suddenly they understood why people try to get tax breaks! We also created "public services" with some of the tax money - if someone lands in jail, they can use the public fund to get out for free. It made taxes feel like insurance rather than just money disappearing.

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This is such a creative idea! Did you find that it made them more negative about taxes or did they see the benefits too?

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What exactly do I need to give my CPA from PayPal this tax season?

So I've been selling some handmade jewelry on the side through PayPal, and I'm totally lost about what I need to provide to my CPA for this tax season. I made around $6,700 in total sales last year, but that doesn't account for all the materials I bought and shipping costs. PayPal sent me an email saying something about tax forms, but I'm confused about what exactly I need to download or print out. Do I just give my CPA my PayPal transaction history? Or is there a specific tax document I need? This is my first year doing this, and I don't want to mess up my taxes or miss any deductions I'm entitled to. Any help would be super appreciated!

Make sure you track mileage if you're going to the post office to ship items or buying supplies in person! That's deductible too and most people forget about it. I use an app to track all my drives related to my PayPal business.

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Do I need to keep physical receipts for all the supplies I buy or are digital records okay? My CPA is pretty old school and I'm not sure what's actually required.

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Digital records are perfectly acceptable for the IRS! I take pictures of all my receipts with my phone and organize them by month in Google Drive. Many CPAs now prefer digital because it's easier to search and organize. That said, if your CPA prefers physical copies, you might want to print them out just to make the process smoother on their end. But legally speaking, digital receipts have the same validity as paper ones as long as they clearly show the date, vendor, amount, and what was purchased.

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Don't forget about the home office deduction if you make your jewelry at home! You can deduct a portion of your rent/mortgage, utilities, internet, etc. My paypal business saved me almost $2,000 in taxes last year because of this deduction.

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Be careful with home office deductions though. You need a space used EXCLUSIVELY for business, not just your kitchen table where you also eat dinner. That's where a lot of people get in trouble.

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$700 vs $70 state tax refund when switching from H&R Block to TurboTax - did I mess something up?

So I'm kinda freaking out right now. I've always filed my taxes with H&R Block because I don't make much money and qualified for their free filing option. But this year when I went to file, the website kept forcing me to add products to my cart and wouldn't let me move forward without paying for these add-ons. I got frustrated and decided to try TurboTax instead to see if I could avoid these charges. But now I'm super confused because when I entered all the same information (W-2, deductions, everything) the refund amounts are DRASTICALLY different. Like, with H&R Block my state tax return showed I'd get almost $700 back, but with TurboTax it's only showing $70 for my state return! That's a $630 difference which is huge for me. I double-checked that I entered all my information correctly in both systems. My income was about $31,000 last year from my part-time jobs, and I don't have any complicated tax situations - no investments, no property, just basic deductions. Can different tax software really give results that are this different? Did I mess something up somewhere? Has anyone else experienced this kind of huge discrepancy between tax preparation products? I'm really worried I might be missing something important.

I'm a tax preparer (not professional advice!) and see this ALL the time. Here are the most common reasons for discrepancies between tax software: 1. One software found a deduction/credit the other missed 2. You answered a question differently between programs 3. A state-specific credit was applied in one but not the other 4. One program incorrectly determined eligibility for something 5. Simple data entry error My recommendation: print out the full forms from both programs and compare them line by line. The difference will jump out at you! Look especially at Schedule 1 and any state-specific forms.

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Is it worth paying for the deluxe or premium versions of these tax programs? I always use the free versions but wonder if the paid ones catch more deductions?

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For most simple tax situations, the free versions are perfectly adequate. The paid versions add value mainly if you have more complex situations like self-employment income, rental properties, investments, or itemized deductions. The other benefit of paid versions is better support options - some offer tax pro review or the ability to chat with a tax expert if you get stuck. But if you just have W-2 income and take the standard deduction, you're generally fine with free versions. Just make sure you're using the actual free version and not getting upsold on features you don't need.

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Has anyone tried FreeTaxUSA? I switched from TT last year and my refunds were nearly identical but I didn't get hit with any surprise fees at the end. Federal is free and state is like $15.

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Second this! Been using FreeTaxUSA for 3 years now. When I switched from TurboTax I actually got a BIGGER refund with FreeTaxUSA because it found an education credit TurboTax missed. Plus they don't constantly try to upsell you on stuff.

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Thanks for the validation! I was worried I'd missed something since it was so much cheaper. Good to know about the education credit too - I'll have to double-check that section since I'm taking some community college classes.

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